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Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Thanks for holding guys, keeping the crpypto worth enough to pay some of my bills

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1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)

Risky Bisquick posted:

Thanks for holding guys, keeping the crpypto worth enough to pay some of my bills

Np but I charge 1% for the convenience

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

1gnoirents posted:

Np but I charge 1% for the convenience

I only pay nanopool and ewbf soz m8

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

It's important to diversify your money across multiple garbage fires and ponzi schemes

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the correct way to hold worthless garbage is in all bitcoin. All the other coins are compared to bitcoin and follow its value.

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

Fauxtool posted:

the correct way to hold worthless garbage is in all bitcoin. All the other coins are compared to bitcoin and follow its value.

hey grandpa jfyi bitcoins are obsolete, time to get with the times and get megabytecoins

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Ummm actually they're called byteballs

Ezekial
Jan 10, 2014
Would a Tesla K40 be good for mining at all? What specs of a gpu/cpu does it actually utilize?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Did this K40 fall out of the back of a truck or are you thinking of mining with hardware owned by your employer?

if you're thinking of buying one for cryptomining lol

craig588
Nov 19, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
I used to own a dual K20 machine and the thought of using that for mining is a joke. It was computing for so much more money for its real job and once that job ended I sold it. You should sell the K40, mining is all optimized for consumer hardware and doesn't need ECC. It'll mine like a 780 Ti, probably a bit better, but maybe not because the K40 has more cache than the 780 Ti does, it might be a GDDR5X situation where the extra space is wasted.

Edit: The major differences between an old Tesla like that and consumer hardware are 1/3rd FP64 speed vs 1/24 for the consumer line. ~Double the memory and ECC support than uses up 12.5% of the memory if you turn it on, but if you need it you need it. Finally, drivers optimized for professional workloads, even in current generation Teslas that have the same FP64 performance as consumer cards the extra optimizations for pro software result in stuff 5-10 times faster, in pro software, not games. A consumer card probably could run those optimizations, but part of the cost you're paying for in a Quadro or Tesla is software development for niche apps that might have a few thousand users.

craig588 fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Oct 6, 2017

Ezekial
Jan 10, 2014

QuarkJets posted:

Did this K40 fall out of the back of a truck or are you thinking of mining with hardware owned by your employer?

if you're thinking of buying one for cryptomining lol

I work in a vfx lab where we can check out hardware for personal pcs. Also to last post, thank you for the response. I'll just check out a 980ti.

Also yeah, boss allows trash like this without company action.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Using company resources to mine cryptocurrency at home? Sounds like a great idea

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

QuarkJets posted:

Using company resources to mine cryptocurrency at home? Sounds like a great idea

It does! I love my crypto comedy!
OP, please check in with us and give the full story after they toss you out the door.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
I can't see how they'd find out, the real reason it's a bad idea is because the mining performance of the card isn't good enough for it to be worth the hassle.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe


What a success I've been! 3 more months and this makes my 1080ti break even (minus electricity over the summer months).

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)
I really should switch to those, as I just spend the money on Amazon anyway lol. Is that gyft or whatever from the start of the thread?

Edit: They dont support 2fa ... are you serious lol

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 8, 2017

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

1gnoirents posted:

I really should switch to those, as I just spend the money on Amazon anyway lol. Is that gyft or whatever from the start of the thread?

Edit: They dont support 2fa ... are you serious lol


You always gotta keep the option of getting hacked open so you can steal from your customers as soon as its worth doing.

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)

Fauxtool posted:

You always gotta keep the option of getting hacked open so you can steal from your customers as soon as its worth doing.

Its worse than that, I meant to say they require you to turn off 2fa with Coinbase to pay lol

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

1gnoirents posted:

Its worse than that, I meant to say they require you to turn off 2fa with Coinbase to pay lol

does it require coinbase or are you just one of those dummies who keeps money in a web wallet

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

does it require coinbase or are you just one of those dummies who keeps money in a web wallet

I dont really know what this means as a question overall so I'm probably the dummy

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

If you keep your butts in a wallet run by a website/app/exchange, that website has your butts and will soon be "hacked" like they all are.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rexxed posted:

If you keep your butts in a wallet run by a website/app/exchange, that website has your butts and will soon be "hacked" like they all are.

is there a single one that was open at the start that is still secure and unhacked?

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Fauxtool posted:

is there a single one that was open at the start that is still secure and unhacked?
No. It is the fate of all things bitcoin to get hacked or "hacked".

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe

1gnoirents posted:

I really should switch to those, as I just spend the money on Amazon anyway lol. Is that gyft or whatever from the start of the thread?

Edit: They dont support 2fa ... are you serious lol

I use egifter for gift cards and copay for my wallet. I haven't bothered doing any research whatsoever on keeping my wallet safe. I think I knew how it all worked like 7 years ago when I was mining bitcoin on my AMD 6850 (and yes I either lost the wallet or my wallet site was hacked lol). Now though, nicehash puts money into my wallet and I turn 90 percent of it into gift card. I wouldn't be too hard off if nicehash stole my .01 bitcoin or copay took my $8 dollars worth.

Numinous
May 20, 2001

College Slice
You guys know you can just run the bitcoin wallet application locally right? No need to go online with it. It's super easy to backup so your coins are un-hackable.

Just be prepared to be kicked in the dick for awhile while the blockchain downloads.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
Yeah... I think I remember doing it that way for a bit. I know it's possible, but is it as EASY as what I'm doing now? Is there a dick kicking involved?

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Numinous posted:

You guys know you can just run the bitcoin wallet application locally right? No need to go online with it. It's super easy to backup so your coins are un-hackable.

Just be prepared to be kicked in the dick for awhile while the blockchain downloads.
You don't need to download the blockchain to use a local wallet like Electrum.

Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Oct 9, 2017

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Numinous posted:

You guys know you can just run the bitcoin wallet application locally right? No need to go online with it. It's super easy to backup so your coins are un-hackable.

Just be prepared to be kicked in the dick for awhile while the blockchain downloads.

That requires effort, and most people aren't willing to put in any effort into.. basically anything

But even then, keys stored offline can be robbed. Or in some cases just lost. Likewise, keys generated offline have also been stolen/lost for a variety of reasons. As has been discussed, it's important to actually audit the source code of the application that you're using to store your money (although no one ever does); in the past some wallet applications have been written with a predetermined small number of seeds, giving the developer the ability to recreate any of the private keys generated by the application. Others have just been poorly written (using a static seed)

The original brainwallet site combined a user's input password with a hidden seed, and later the owner of the site just ran a dictionary attack (because he knew the hidden seed) and swept up most users' coins

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Oct 9, 2017

EconOutlines
Jul 3, 2004

What about hardware based wallets?

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

EconOutlines posted:

What about hardware based wallets?

Absolutely nothing to worry about!

(five minutes later)

OH NO HOW COULD ANYONE HAVE FORESEEN THIS

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)

QuarkJets posted:

That requires effort, and most people aren't willing to put in any effort into.. basically anything

But even then, keys stored offline can be robbed. Or in some cases just lost. Likewise, keys generated offline have also been stolen/lost for a variety of reasons. As has been discussed, it's important to actually audit the source code of the application that you're using to store your money (although no one ever does); in the past some wallet applications have been written with a predetermined small number of seeds, giving the developer the ability to recreate any of the private keys generated by the application. Others have just been poorly written (using a static seed)

The original brainwallet site combined a user's input password with a hidden seed, and later the owner of the site just ran a dictionary attack (because he knew the hidden seed) and swept up most users' coins

You wouldn't believe how much effort I spend reducing the effort I expend

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

EconOutlines posted:

What about hardware based wallets?

The best hardware based wallet is a printout on a few pieces of paper/whatever stored in different physical locations.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

I use a leather wallet, personally.

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

divabot posted:

Absolutely nothing to worry about!

(five minutes later)

OH NO HOW COULD ANYONE HAVE FORESEEN THIS

Why on earth would it load your private date into the BOOTLOADER ON FIRMWARE UPDATE. :catdrugs:

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
if you think that's bad, try using the ethereum programming language

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

if you think that's bad, try using the ethereum programming language

I saw the humble bundle: Bitcoin for python, and closed the link. I don't think I could handle ethereum which is like a retarded man who had heard about C tried to make a language having only learned javascript.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
A set a lady up with a cheap pc that "has to run all the time" today to get her coins. It sounded to me like shes buying a contract and they use some way to interface with a pc she has running to deposit the coins in her wallet?

I have no idea whats going on and didn't pry but she did not look like the bitcoin type, she hardly knew how a computer worked.

How bad is she getting scammed.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Don Lapre posted:

A set a lady up with a cheap pc that "has to run all the time" today to get her coins. It sounded to me like shes buying a contract and they use some way to interface with a pc she has running to deposit the coins in her wallet?

I have no idea whats going on and didn't pry but she did not look like the bitcoin type, she hardly knew how a computer worked.

How bad is she getting scammed.

hilariously. should have gotten more details.

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry
She is most likely going to be helping money laundering or worst actual bitcoiner using her computer for child porn web host on the darknet.

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Don Lapre posted:

A set a lady up with a cheap pc that "has to run all the time" today to get her coins. It sounded to me like shes buying a contract and they use some way to interface with a pc she has running to deposit the coins in her wallet?

I have no idea whats going on and didn't pry but she did not look like the bitcoin type, she hardly knew how a computer worked.

How bad is she getting scammed.

that computer is definitely going to be running some dinky cpu miner at least

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