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The memory packages are used as a childhood replacement, which is why Rachel was more believable compared to the relatively stunted Roy, Pris, Leon (?) etc from the first, their emotional responses were as stunted as a child's
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This movie made 30+ million domestic this weekend which was its initial projection until a week ago when it jumped to 50 because of the critical acclaim, but it also made another 50m overseas, which is pretty drat good. I don’t care about box office results, but to call this movie a flop is a big reach.
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Oct 9, 2017 06:31
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starkebn posted:When she sees it in K's room, the prostitute in 2409 specifically remarks that the horse is exactly like the one in her memory I've seen the movie twice and she specifically says "It's from a tree", not "It's from a dream."
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Oct 9, 2017 06:33
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Bottom Liner posted:This movie made 30+ million domestic this weekend which was its initial projection until a week ago when it jumped to 50 because of the critical acclaim, but it also made another 50m overseas, which is pretty drat good. I don’t care about box office results, but to call this movie a flop is a big reach. Studio's want this to flop so they don't have to put in effort to make a "good" movie.
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Oct 9, 2017 06:33
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Jack2142 posted:Studio's want this to flop so they don't have to put in effort to make a "good" movie. This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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Oct 9, 2017 06:35
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Did anyone else think of the ending to Ikiru when K was slowly dying in the snow, satisfied with having accomplished something meaningful
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Oct 9, 2017 06:47
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Steve Yun posted:Did anyone else think of the ending to Ikiru when K was slowly dying in the snow, satisfied with having accomplished something meaningful Raxivace fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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Oct 9, 2017 06:53
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starkebn posted:the prostitute shes the child. The memory maker person is just one of the memory designers. Steve Yun posted:K was slowly dying in the snow He lived. They don't show him die.
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Oct 9, 2017 07:06
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Xenomrph posted:Funnily enough, me too. I read them back when they were new and remember very little of them. i saw the excellent let's play by scorchy. it has some pretty creepy plotlines, like having a grown man be able to have a preteen girl as almost a love interest.
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Oct 9, 2017 07:09
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Jack2142 posted:She actually is just lazy I dunno if that's lazy or if she was just being self indulgant. Creators love to slip in references to personal stuff in their work all the time.
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Oct 9, 2017 07:14
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Lord Krangdar posted:Nothing about the Blade Runner program really makes much sense. Like why have the Voight-Kampff tests when they know exactly who the Replicants are and what they look like? I thought the test is to make sure 100% that they're a replicant, "Human until proven Replicant" if you will. I dunno, I feel like the movie doesn't make much sense and kinda sucks if Deckard's a Replicant. He's not though so gently caress it.
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Oct 9, 2017 07:30
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Fututor Magnus posted:i saw the excellent let's play by scorchy. it has some pretty creepy plotlines, like having a grown man be able to have a preteen girl as almost a love interest. Do you happen to have a link? Or is it pretty easy to find if I search YouTube? Also Wikipedia says the game has like a dozen endings. Wikipedia also says the odds of us getting a re-release of the game are pretty low. But hey, with the renewed interest in Blade Runner thanks to the new movie, maybe Telltale Games will consider making a new game.
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Oct 9, 2017 07:32
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Xenomrph posted:Do you happen to have a link? Or is it pretty easy to find if I search YouTube? https://lparchive.org/Blade-Runner/ It's a SS LP The game is pretty cool though, it had some system in place were it would scramble who was and wasn't a Replicant at the start of the game.
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Oct 9, 2017 07:42
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Xenomrph posted:Do you happen to have a link? Or is it pretty easy to find if I search YouTube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brGguuW3Cmg - long play straight from the yubtub.
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Oct 9, 2017 07:45
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Cacator posted:I've seen the movie twice and she specifically says "It's from a tree", not "It's from a dream." I will have to pay extra attention during a rewatch. I doubt she would notice real wood as easily as that when Dr Badger needed an electron microscope to be sure. I would say there are plenty of faux wood objects, especially considering the fetishization of pre collapse animals and plants
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Tenzarin posted:He lived. They don't show him die. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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Oct 9, 2017 08:34
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Seedge posted:Is it just my interpretation, or is Luv a name she adopted? It sounded to me like she latched onto Wallace's speech mannerisms more than an actual name. I've thought about this and I kinda
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Oct 9, 2017 08:45
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It's too bad he won't live. But then again who does?
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No Mods No Masters posted:It's too bad he won't live. But then again who does? That fits in so well.
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I saw this at one of our Superlarge 2D screens here in the UK, (not the Imax), and I have been thinking about it ever since. The original Bladerunner is my third favourite film of all time, but this has actually surpassed it. I saw reviews in the media saying it was one of the greatest sci-fi films, sequels, the aliens/godfather part II of movies and other high praise. I couldn't believe they were correct, but they were. I didn't realise it was 2 hours and 46 minutes long till I got out of the cinema, it surely didn't feel that way. It was so smart, but not smug smart. It was utterly packed with ideas and themes and questions and completely allowed you the space to answer them in your own way. Who on earth at one of the major studios allowed a film like this to be made in these consumerist times. I would never, ever have expected that! Some spoilery thoughts I have: - People have been saying Rachel died in childbirth, but I thought the photo K found had Rachel standing by the tree holding a baby. Did I see that incorrectly? - JOI loved K. I really do feel she became more than her original programming. When K was knocked out in that spinner, she panicked like someone who loved would. If it was purely for his benefit that she speak and do things for him, he'd need to be conscious to get that. Ultimately, however, I love that both reading of who she is work. The blurring of 'programming' and 'sentience' in this universe is exactly the questions and philosophies that we are supposed to explore. - Gosling was amazing and the moment he screamed when learning about the memory being real was phenomenal. His arc was truly amazing. He became more real than real by realising he was able to make choices. In fact he showed off all the traits that I would say we ascribe to humanity: Choice, love and desire for more. - I like that there were several things that didn't get followed up. Wallace's goals, the resistance. These are things that are there but they are not the focal point of the film. We don't need to see a resistance resisting, we can make up our own thoughts about where that goes. I like that. I like that is more resembles life where everything is not always complete in a package. It just gives richer world building. - I cannot believe how beautifully shot, coloured and lit it was. Surely some awards will be winging its way to these guys. Deakins and Villeneuve truly outdid themselves. - When the resistance leader told K that he wasn't the one and he looks crestfallen, that was brilliant. All of us alive want to be something special, something more than we are. It's such a base human desire and he felt it, he believed it. Phew! There is more but I am still digesting and I often cannot coherently explain how I feel about things. Needless to say, I am tremendously happy I got to experience this film and it has now replaced the original as my third favourite film of all time.
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Oct 9, 2017 09:24
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VideoGames posted:
It was the one-eyed resistance lady
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No Mods No Masters posted:It was the one-eyed resistance lady Thank you! It was my bad eye sight then! 
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Oct 9, 2017 09:34
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I nearly skipped this because the (UK) trailers made it look like a suicide squad level action film, but with good visuals. Like it was just going to be scifi buddy cop movie where they fight Jared Letos private army. If the early reviews hadn't been glowing I'd have never seen it.
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Oct 9, 2017 09:38
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Steve Yun posted:Did anyone else think of the ending to Ikiru when K was slowly dying in the snow, satisfied with having accomplished something meaningful Made me think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJqUEc1fUEw edit: poo poo that did not spoiler tag initially whew
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VideoGames posted:
The tragic part is He was knocked out so he never saw that, and the interaction with the big pink hologram probably mean's K either dies at the end or goes through the rest of his life thinking Joi was just programmed to please him. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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Oct 9, 2017 09:44
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Jack2142 posted:The tragic part is He was knocked out so he never saw that, and the interaction with the big pink hologram probably mean's K either dies at the end or goes through the rest of his life thinking Joi was just programmed to please him. 
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RE: Joi, I found it odd (if programmed) the company would sanction having her call up prostitutes their customers thought were attractive. Because of that and her willingness to take a stand and get offloaded into the portable device alone I think she was more than standard. If that's not the case in the end what does it matter, she provided the exact thing K wanted besides touch. I also thought there might be some greater attachment to her since his existence was seen as a step down from humanity and I imagine her's was seen as another step down from Replicants. I loved the movie but while walking out I heard someone say "I dont get why the old guy (Harrison Ford) was in it, what was the point of all that". Even if you didn't see the original and just listened during this movie you could get a base understanding.....anyway this is my one post I get from jail seeyah.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:In blade runners she's being hidden from, right. Because he's a Blade Runner and she thought he'd loving kill her, which he might have at that part of the film for christ sake. Holy moly you sure had all your bases covered on that one.
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Oct 9, 2017 10:25
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I watched it last night with some friends, in 3D. I just kept getting a bad taste of Prometheus at the start (at least) because of how gray the color correction was. Show me some of those Neon City Lights like the first film did 
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Oct 9, 2017 10:48
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Rachel has brown eyes in the first movie. Wallace trots out Rachel. Deckard: "Her eyes... were green!" Wallace shoots Rachel. Did Deckard just gaslight Wallace by lying about Rachel's eye color?
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Oct 9, 2017 10:51
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Syllables posted:I watched it last night with some friends, in 3D. It's called smog.
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Oct 9, 2017 10:56
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Steve Yun posted:Rachel has brown eyes in the first movie. I don't think it was about lying. It was Deckards way of saying that it wasn't Rachel, while maintaining some level of stoicism.
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Syllables posted:I watched it last night with some friends, in 3D. Seeing it in 3D probably didn't help with that. Film was really colourful.
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HAT FETISH posted:Wait was she aware she was a replicant? Pretty much... it's the only way he'd have both been programmed to find out who she was AND have her memories. Or at least the simplest explanation via Gordian knot. Preston Waters fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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HAT FETISH posted:Wait was she aware she was a replicant? She isn't a Replicant though. Not in the strictest sense, and I guess it depends on if you think Deckard is human or not but she could be a hybrid and thus the beginning of a new kind of Human. I think she knows enough to lie out her rear end about who she is and where she came from at least.
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QuoProQuid posted:Pale Fire is a book about a 999-line poem, written by a fictional, recently deceased poet, with extensive commentary by one of his friends and collaborators. The friend's commentary starts off detached and academic but becomes increasingly deranged and disjointed as the book progresses. Eventually, the commentary consumes the original poem and the "friend" is revealed to be a narcissistic lunatic who believes that he is an exiled king and the inspiration of the poem itself. The friend is obsessed by what he thinks is a missing final line in the poem, telling the reader that it should be 1,000 lines long and not 999. (The poem's format suggests that this should be the case. The final line breaks off abruptly.) I'm glad you wrote this because while I got the meta layer of the novel just fine, eventually I lost the thread of the canto and just didn't have the time to realistically go back and find it, and my professor was more interested in the meta part anyway so I focused on that. I kept the book though so I will have to make some time to read it at some point.
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titanium posted:RE: Joi, I found it odd (if programmed) the company would sanction having her call up prostitutes their customers thought were attractive. Because of that and her willingness to take a stand and get offloaded into the portable device alone I think she was more than standard. If that's not the case in the end what does it matter, she provided the exact thing K wanted besides touch. I also thought there might be some greater attachment to her since his existence was seen as a step down from humanity and I imagine her's was seen as another step down from Replicants. The prostitutes are also a Wallace product. “Syncsex” in this case would be like ... like... an Alexa module, perhaps. Like Linguica said in a post, having actual sex with your e-waifu has got to be like item #1 on a wishlist. The human factor is what surrounds her decision to perform that act, before and after.
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Yaws posted:Ordinarily constant lingering shots of an actors face would annoy me but Gosling is such a handsome devil I didn't mind. I'm going to ruin it for you, one of his eyes is higher than the other. The constant lingering shots made me notice this and it was weird.
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I gotta hand it to them. Designing products that are sold to a third party, who then pay them so that those products can buy other products from your company, is hilariously evil and a perfect distillation of where capitalism is headed.
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