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Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

D_Smart posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7543k2/first_impressions_from_an_evocati/

quote:

Won't be posting vids or images as that definitely breaks NDA (and is identifiable) but I can give you a general overview about day 1. I made a special account to do this to avoid doxxing but I am a regular poster.
Positives: Item 2.0 revamps look super nice. The details on the new ships really show how much time they've put into them. They look great.
The stamina system and UI changes are fun and top notch. Some animation issues but that can be cleaned up pretty easy.
Cargo is simple point A to point B. Functional (well with the usual alpha bugs). But numbers go up and down.
Moons are moons. Think like smaller ED moons with a bit more terrain. pretty cool. They need to update the procedural generation as many mountain ranges are very clearly just mirrored or identical over small areas.
Negative so far: I average FPS in the teens on my hefty rig. The servers though are REALLY not stable. Anything more than 3-4 people on the server and things just fall apart. Its currently limited to something like half a dozen players in one instance but you'd never notice because you aren't getting that high and not crashing. I've never had an evocati even half this bad. The netcode fixes can't come soon enough.

I am completely shocked that's all he has to report on such a critical and much anticipated patch.

:allears:

loving :lol: they actually think networking is going to get better.

lol and of course the incredible Star Citizen community is hounding him as a filthy liar, even though it's clear from his sugar coating he's more than likely a true believer.


Absolutely nothing has changed. I am more convinced than ever that the general masses won't get their hands on "3.0" in 2017.

Virtual Captain posted:

:toxx:
No 3.0 for regular backers in 2017 (Not some hollowed out "3.0" You need to be able to fly from Olistar to the surface, hidden or blatant loadscreen is fine; and drive generally around the whole thing. No invisible walls at CRYENGINE_MAP_WIDTH)

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McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
Trust funders who waste their money because they have no concept of it's value or the work that would normally go into acquiring it should be summarily executed, in my opinion.

Preferably publicly. Makes a game show out of it. Instead of another worthless derivation of existing TV, put 8 trust fundies in a house and give them house credits they can use to buy things for their stay.

Every second month, the audience votes for one person to be executed based on how much they spent, what they spent out on, and how much of a waste it was, but the actual executions are delayed until the final episode, so a dude or dudette could be dead from the start and not know it. Maybe it could be done with the worst kind of electricity if they didn't spend credits on the best kind of electricity for the house.

I forget what the point of the lesson was to teach these guys again, but I'm excited for Bloodsport crossed with Big Brother. It could save TV Programming.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

So apparently 3.0 has EAC and reddit is pretty salty about it.

How bad is EAC?

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

McGiggins posted:

Trust funders who waste their money because they have no concept of it's value or the work that would normally go into acquiring it should be summarily executed, in my opinion.

Preferably publicly. Makes a game show out of it. Instead of another worthless derivation of existing TV, put 8 trust fundies in a house and give them house credits they can use to buy things for their stay.

Every second month, the audience votes for one person to be executed based on how much they spent, what they spent out on, and how much of a waste it was, but the actual executions are delayed until the final episode, so a dude or dudette could be dead from the start and not know it. Maybe it could be done with the worst kind of electricity if they didn't spend credits on the best kind of electricity for the house.

I forget what the point of the lesson was to teach these guys again, but I'm excited for Bloodsport crossed with Big Brother. It could save TV Programming.

they'll put anything on StimTV these days

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib

Virtual Captain posted:

In the last 6 years, RSI has infected four offices, which it has united into one nonstop agile waterfall, CIG. RSI has origins from the Kickstarter Sham in which a bunch of hopefuls and has-beens rode the nostalgia train to riches. All studios except for RSI swore reasonable development time upon their citizens. There are no exit doors in an RSI studio, and all communication with the outside world has been cut off and drinking coffee has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to the developers and artists. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a espresso machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with donuts and garage door openers. After the painful, 2 week surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps anti-aging serum into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the RSI is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their space jet nipples will be subjected parping around in space without a space suit. Offenders would also be forced to show their parps on youtube to soothing tunes and dulcet tones, and furthermore.

Otherwise, backers would be dazed with the worst type of development in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness all over the Reddit. The development time would also triple every second, but no 3.0 would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all whale unit forces must buy more ships to block this effect.

However, entertainment is also questionable in RSI offices. Sporting events end with the losing team being forced to stick weapons through their heads, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands stretching out like rubber, flight races would end with the losers having to play the actual module, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves waiting for RSI to gently caress up, which also causes madness if the content isn't fed to the locusts. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Weekly reports are broadcast, and actors are actually murdering their lines just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into meetings and waved hands at haphazardly. Any film that does not feature some kind of a fuckup will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - subsumption.

All go, no-go meetings are also broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will not miss much. All citizens must boo at the presenters and try to spot flaws in the green screen, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot stop watching, but they will also feel pretty bored.

Forums by this RSI will be razed, and all the posts archived in the same way as their release dates are. The records are then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from reddit minds. Promises are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Ship Artists undergo years of relentless and endless refactoring, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the wear another jacket. All employees are placed into cubicles and closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some employees are also subjected sleeping gas and tasers, straight jackets to prevent them from committing suicide or killing each other. Employees sentenced to Wing Commander archiving are locked up until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

All employees can spend as much time goofing off or socializing as they want, but they must all share one grotesque looking cement counter for food preparation. They are stuck in RSI until they complete the game and can leave. RSI orders at least 1 million MoCap sessions every day, as they are afraid the artists and developers may overthrow them. But only one studio is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching walls, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Commandos are in every office, and they ensure that netcode is never improved.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything but loving RSI with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the office space of this sickening company.

Quoted for sickening and terrible truth

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

Gosts posted:

If you were to lock all the staff currently working on star citizen in any way, shape or form into a contained location, how long would it take for them to complete the game? (All features included)

Impossible. It would require the ego death of many, or a new leader to rise.


This strawman keeps getting straw into my mouth while I fondle and cup him! God drat this strawman!!!

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

McGiggins posted:

Trust funders who waste their money because they have no concept of it's value or the work that would normally go into acquiring it should be summarily executed, in my opinion.

Preferably publicly. Makes a game show out of it. Instead of another worthless derivation of existing TV, put 8 trust fundies in a house and give them house credits they can use to buy things for their stay.

Every second month, the audience votes for one person to be executed based on how much they spent, what they spent out on, and how much of a waste it was, but the actual executions are delayed until the final episode, so a dude or dudette could be dead from the start and not know it. Maybe it could be done with the worst kind of electricity if they didn't spend credits on the best kind of electricity for the house.

I forget what the point of the lesson was to teach these guys again, but I'm excited for Bloodsport crossed with Big Brother. It could save TV Programming.

gently caress that. All game shows and reality shows should be The Running Man.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao


tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Gosts posted:

If you were to lock all the staff currently working on star citizen in any way, shape or form into a contained location, how long would it take for them to complete the game? (All features included)

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Colostomy Bag posted:

So apparently 3.0 has EAC and reddit is pretty salty about it.

How bad is EAC?

What's EAC?

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
easyanticheat

https://www.easyanticheat.net/

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
although you'd be forgiven thinking its yet another alpha or game currency, like UAC or REC or aUEC or whatever the gently caress they are using now

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
and um, I think EAC is a dumb loving thing to have for an MMO

you have to go custom solution when you're dealing with a larger player base, especially in a twitch based setting

but hey, I don't understand game development so

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

Virtual Captain posted:

In the last 6 years, RSI has infected four offices, which it has united into one nonstop agile waterfall, CIG. RSI has origins from the Kickstarter Sham in which a bunch of hopefuls and has-beens rode the nostalgia train to riches. All studios except for RSI swore reasonable development time upon their citizens. There are no exit doors in an RSI studio, and all communication with the outside world has been cut off and drinking coffee has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to the developers and artists. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a espresso machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with donuts and garage door openers. After the painful, 2 week surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps anti-aging serum into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the RSI is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their space jet nipples will be subjected parping around in space without a space suit. Offenders would also be forced to show their parps on youtube to soothing tunes and dulcet tones, and furthermore.

Otherwise, backers would be dazed with the worst type of development in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness all over the Reddit. The development time would also triple every second, but no 3.0 would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all whale unit forces must buy more ships to block this effect.

However, entertainment is also questionable in RSI offices. Sporting events end with the losing team being forced to stick weapons through their heads, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands stretching out like rubber, flight races would end with the losers having to play the actual module, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves waiting for RSI to gently caress up, which also causes madness if the content isn't fed to the locusts. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Weekly reports are broadcast, and actors are actually murdering their lines just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into meetings and waved hands at haphazardly. Any film that does not feature some kind of a fuckup will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - subsumption.

All go, no-go meetings are also broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will not miss much. All citizens must boo at the presenters and try to spot flaws in the green screen, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot stop watching, but they will also feel pretty bored.

Forums by this RSI will be razed, and all the posts archived in the same way as their release dates are. The records are then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from reddit minds. Promises are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Ship Artists undergo years of relentless and endless refactoring, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the wear another jacket. All employees are placed into cubicles and closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some employees are also subjected sleeping gas and tasers, straight jackets to prevent them from committing suicide or killing each other. Employees sentenced to Wing Commander archiving are locked up until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

All employees can spend as much time goofing off or socializing as they want, but they must all share one grotesque looking cement counter for food preparation. They are stuck in RSI until they complete the game and can leave. RSI orders at least 1 million MoCap sessions every day, as they are afraid the artists and developers may overthrow them. But only one studio is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching walls, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Commandos are in every office, and they ensure that netcode is never improved.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything but loving RSI with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the office space of this sickening company.

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

TheAgent posted:

although you'd be forgiven thinking its yet another alpha or game currency, like UAC or REC or aUEC or whatever the gently caress they are using now

USD....

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Chris' codename: Universal Serial Dunce.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

Mu77ley posted:

It was great, but the food wasn't free sadly.

Food & drink was free for the few hundred VIPs/founders :smuggo:

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

tooterfish posted:

Chris' codename: Universal Serial Dunce.

Ben's nightmare: under sugared donut.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Xaerael posted:

Ben's nightmare: under sugared donut.

Ben's dream: under a sugared donut

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Sandi's eternal fate: Under study demotions.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
kinda hungover today (mostly just tired, haven't been sleeping much at all) and a donut and coffee and and and maybe another donut sounds loving incredible

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
also I bought shadow of war and gonna by $500 of loot crates out of spite

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

TheAgent posted:

also I bought shadow of war and gonna by $500 of loot crates out of spite

no don't

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

XK posted:

no don't
big publishers are going to loving crush your goddamn dreams

I want microtransactions forever

only the rich shall game, the rest of you can go play house party on steam or whatever the gently caress indie bullshit

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Virtual Captain posted:

In the last 6 years, RSI has infected four offices, which it has united into one nonstop agile waterfall, CIG.

:five:

The sickening and heartbreaking truths of WaterScrumFall

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

CIG releases are always late because Ben can't sprint.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
$100 special editions shall become the norm, with $100 buy ins for 50 loot crates, giving me everything from new dance moves to titwindow boob armor for my hawt bodied avatar

look upon my credit card, ye mighty, and despair

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

TheAgent posted:

also I bought shadow of war and gonna by $500 of loot crates out of spite

I bought Divinity: OS2 yesterday, loving it (even though gameplay-wise seems exactly the same as D:OS1). I'm down for some goon co-op.

Chin
Dec 12, 2005

GET LOST 2013
-RALPH
CIG in a few months: "We've heard your complaints loud and clear, patch 3.0.2.3.1x removes EAC! Only a 15GB download thanks to our excellent delta patcher which we invented."

Cultists: "CIG listens to us :haw:"

SpaceCurtisLeMay
Sep 30, 2016

We're at war with Goons. We were attacked by Goons. Do you want to kill Goons, or would you rather have Citizens killed?

Risc1911 posted:

Since the whole networking discussion has flared up again with the 3.0 alpha i compiled a little effort Post for those of you that want to have some arguments and knowledge about networking and it's limitations from someone that actually optimized highly sensitive banking software and network critical applications. (these are excerpts of my presentation/pitch for clients, i can't post the full thing since it contains too much sensitive data)



worldwide fiber network infrastructure (2016)


This just scratches the surface of networking on the physical level. You can do a lot on the software side and with your actual infrastructure. This was meant to illustrate how no matter what you do with software, you can;t magically break the physical limits of how our internet is built.

Just shouting "muh server mesh" will not reduce latency or break the speed photons travel through fiber cables.


I have a gaming buddy who works on HFT programs for a hedge fund and they pay top dollar to have the closest servers in the same data center as major exchanges. Give you an idea, he rewrote an algorithm and shaved 2 milliseconds off the transaction time and received close to a $1M bonus for doing so because said 2ms advantage would make the hedge fund tens of millions of dollars over their competitors. And he would talk about the very things you are discussing. We discussed Star Citizen years ago and both of us had the same conclusion that massive space battles would end up as disasters.

The two things we always came back to was if things were instance, the side who could overwhelm enough instances to eventually get one where your opponents had few or no opposition would win and that the larger instances would likely be lag fests. Not as big of a deal in a game like EVE where dice rolls and stats determine hit/miss but in a twitch based game where your aim matters, especially for targeting sub systems, it was not going to end well.

I get quite a few hours a year behind a tractor, which is frankly mind numbingly dull, to think about things and I've tried to think of better ways it could be done only to conclude that Frontier's use of indirect mechanics is the only solution that makes sense. In elite, opposing factions fill what is basically their side of a scale. After x amount of time the faction with most points/kills/trade tips the scale in their favor and wins. A lot of people hate this mechanic because it is not direct action. You can't go after the people causing it and instead must do your own activities, completely separated, in order to counter them. It becomes a "whomever can herd the most cats" who wins (but that's battles in any MMO more often than not). Still with instancing, multiple game modes on multiple platforms I can't think of a better way.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Toops posted:

I bought Divinity: OS2 yesterday, loving it (even though gameplay-wise seems exactly the same as D:OS1). I'm down for some goon co-op.
its real good, but I suggest going through the game for awhile on your own for a bit (at least getting to the second act) before jumping in with other people

although one of these days one of us should run a star citizen themed DOS2 game, since there's a game master mode that's absolutely loving incredible

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

TheAgent posted:

also I bought shadow of war and gonna by $500 of loot crates out of spite

the pain triples after opening each additional crate

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Tokamak posted:

the pain triples after opening each additional crate

Especially when someone hops out to rape you. The inevitable consequence and all.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

TheAgent posted:

also I bought shadow of war and gonna by $500 of loot crates out of spite

I fired up Total War II as a break from Divinity and PUBG and I haven't slept more than four hours the past three nights.
Just one more turn...

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Lladre posted:

I fired up Total War II as a break from Divinity and PUBG and I haven't slept more than four hours the past three nights.
Just one more turn...
so many good games out

too many loving good games

help

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

TheAgent posted:

$100 special editions shall become the norm, with $100 buy ins for 50 loot crates, giving me everything from new dance moves to titwindow boob armor for my hawt bodied avatar

look upon my credit card, ye mighty, and despair

You've seen what Battlefront 2 is doing, I guess.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

XK posted:

You've seen what Battlefront 2 is doing, I guess.

I love Star Wars and I like FPS games and flight sim games. But I just have zero interest in this as well as the original. I don't even know why. It seems like I game I should really want to play.

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

Wait I can be an anime princess in a dota-like? Sign me up!

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Lladre posted:

I love Star Wars and I like FPS games and flight sim games. But I just have zero interest in this as well as the original. I don't even know why. It seems like I game I should really want to play.

I feel you. I felt pretty burned by the open beta for the first New Battlefront, and ended up skipping it. I want to be hopeful about the second one, but I'm trying to avoid it until there's a consensus. Plus there's so many good shooters out right now that when I'm sitting at my computer thinking "Hmm I want to shoot some guys" it's actually hard to pick which game I want to play.

The pull of the Battlefront II style Star Destroyer vs Rebel Cruiser map is strong though.

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Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

TheAgent posted:

its real good, but I suggest going through the game for awhile on your own for a bit (at least getting to the second act) before jumping in with other people

although one of these days one of us should run a star citizen themed DOS2 game, since there's a game master mode that's absolutely loving incredible

Did you play D:OS1? If so, is there anything in the game mechanics in 2 that differentiates?

lol listen to us, talking about game mechanics for an actual video game and not just dreaming up unfathomably complex fantasies about how awesome this video game's mechanics will be later, just as soon as it revolutionizes everything we thought we knew about what's possible.

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