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All new movies these days are remakes of old classics because original ideas are risky and expensive
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he's not wrong
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Oct 6, 2017 09:06
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Kemper Boyd posted:Nyt probably is getting on the bandwagon of getting free clicks from men who get mad online whenever someone mentions white cishet men. Suomi 100
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Oct 6, 2017 10:03
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The budget is allegedly at 7M euros, so it will need a poo poo load of viewers anyway to recoup the costs. On the other hand, it'll probably be distributed to every tiny local theater in Finland, and stay in theaters for months. And I'm sure part of the budget is just sponsorship, so they don't need to recoup everything.
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Oct 6, 2017 11:52
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Kemper Boyd posted:Nyt probably is getting on the bandwagon of getting free clicks from men who get mad online whenever someone mentions white cishet men. It has 5000 followers in Face and 3k in Insta, so I guess your analysis might be sound.
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Oct 6, 2017 12:21
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Original and Molberg´s breddy guud version (serious its good) of sarkatakki- adventures cover both heroic warstory of torjuntavoitto and the people´s history of getting shot and killed for Suur- Suomi, I´m curious what the new one will bring to table, long sex scenes and full frontal nudity? This movie really is a tragic missed opportunity, here´s how it should been: In the far future of 23XX, the succession wars rage on ruins of eurostoliitto. Global warming makes living bad and past nuclear exchange makes it worse. On this hellish backdrop FIN khanate of tuohi-augmented techno- barbarians makes war on their enemies, the Kreml blood-tsars and their vat grown clone hordes, both fighting over the privilege of being last to starve in a dying world.
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Oct 6, 2017 15:33
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germlin posted:Original and Molberg´s breddy guud version (serious its good) of sarkatakki- adventures cover both heroic warstory of torjuntavoitto and the people´s history of getting shot and killed for Suur- Suomi, I´m curious what the new one will bring to table Everything is filtered/processed to look bluish gray because the director is stuck in 1998 vis-à-vis what look cool.
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Oct 6, 2017 16:25
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germlin posted:I´m curious what the new one will bring to table, long sex scenes and full frontal nudity? Pop culture references, shakycam, lens flares and grimdark action scenes
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Oct 6, 2017 17:19
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germlin posted:Original and Molberg´s breddy guud version (serious its good) It's the better version.
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Oct 6, 2017 17:46
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doverhog posted:It's the better version. Well duh.
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Oct 6, 2017 19:15
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Why would anyone even try to film a war movie with a €7mil budget?
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Oct 6, 2017 20:53
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Severe underfunding makes it more realistic.
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Oct 6, 2017 21:19
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bloom posted:Why would anyone even try to film a war movie with a €7mil budget? From what I've heard, the production was in trouble because Finland doesn't really have people in the film industry who have experience working with budgets that large. A typical budget is €1.4M.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:29
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bloom posted:Why would anyone even try to film a war movie with a €7mil budget? You could film one of the real wars with that money. Like The Cudgel War.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:58
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DanTheFryingPan posted:From what I've heard, the production was in trouble because Finland doesn't really have people in the film industry who have experience working with budgets that large. A typical budget is €1.4M. Winter War the movie had a budget of 19 million marks and Mollbergs Unknown 14 million marks. In the 1980s. War movies are not typical.
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Oct 6, 2017 23:03
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Nenonen posted:Winter War the movie had a budget of 19 million marks and Mollbergs Unknown 14 million marks. In the 1980s. War movies are not typical. Exactly, pretty much all the people working on those in the 80s have retired by now.
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Oct 7, 2017 07:35
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TBH before reading the Kuukausiliite article today I thought the film was going to be some sort of 2010s redux of the 50s Tuntematon, but actually it seems that it's going to be a rather liberal interpretation of Linna's book and will probably piss off literally everyone. For example, it pretty blatantly points out that no, it wasn't a "separate war" because Finland was totally in bed with Nazi Germany and felt good as gently caress about it, but of course on the other hand it will most likely glorify the war effort and the immense sacrifices of ARE HEROIC TROOPS. Anyway, if this pissing-everyone-off comes true, that makes the film all right in my book. But we'll see (not in cinemas though lol because I sure as hell am not going to pay a single cent for this).
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Oct 7, 2017 16:19
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As far as I remember, it's been a few years since the last time I read it, the book doesn't really go into the larger politics of it or whether the war was separate or not. Also, the book is actually critical of the war, the Sotaromaani version even more so, and it doesn't glorify it, at least not intentionally. If the new movie is actually going to go into the politics of it that would make it a lot more interesting.
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Oct 7, 2017 16:50
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Yeah, the book is pretty apolitical as I remember it, Sotaromaani a little less so. But the truth of the entire separate war thing is anyway being constantly ignored in the Finnish Talvisota mythos, so if Louhimäki's film does bring it up as described in the article (Nazi flags waving alongside Finnish flags in front of Eduskunta etc.), the public discussion will probably be rrrrreeeeaaaaallly interesting. e: but anyway the film will be compared to the older films, especially the 50s NATIONAL TREASURE version more than to the books, so in that regard it has good piss-off potential. ALLAN LASSUS fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Oct 7, 2017 17:00
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Sneak preview of the new Tuntematon Sotilas. https://youtu.be/0HwrIGeyiK4
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Oct 7, 2017 17:48
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ALLAN LASSUS posted:Nazi flags waving alongside Finnish flags in front of Eduskunta Antti Rokka and the raiders of the lost Sampo? WW2 nazis do add a bit gravitas.
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Oct 7, 2017 21:06
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Don't these fuckos know that the best finnish war film was already made in 2014? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfcfT2cHfno
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Oct 7, 2017 21:37
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I would unironically like to see a properly made film about Seitsemän Veljestä
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Oct 8, 2017 05:42
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Darkest Auer posted:I would unironically like to see a properly made film about Seitsemän Veljestä I really don't think it lends itself well to cinema.
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Oct 8, 2017 06:04
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Or to a book 
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Oct 8, 2017 14:04
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https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000005401071.html "Yhtä konkreettista muutosta Taponen silti toivoo sosiaalisessa mediassa. Hänen mukaansa poliisiparodiatilit pitäisi sulkea Twitteristä." File a criminal report and see how it goes. Police have thus far been less than active in preventing this poo poo. Also anyone still talking about "ääripäät" even a bigger retard, other obvious things
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Oct 9, 2017 10:00
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I can at least commend Louhimies for forcing everyone in the cast to stay the night in the forest during shooting days.
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Oct 9, 2017 11:03
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So apparently the presidenttipeli has been sealed by assholes making a new rear end in a top hat. I just pray for a miscarriage so that loss.jpg would be relevant again.
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Oct 9, 2017 14:09
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I'm glad the president is taking his nonpartisan role seriously and participating in SDP's "synnytystalkoot". 
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Oct 9, 2017 14:35
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Nenonen posted:So apparently the presidenttipeli has been sealed by assholes making a new rear end in a top hat. I just pray for a miscarriage so that loss.jpg would be relevant again. It was sealed as soon as Sale decided to stay for the second term. Thread! Give me a reason to vote for anything else but empty in this election.
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Oct 9, 2017 14:41
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El Perkele posted:Thread! Give me a reason to vote for anything else but empty in this election. Peräruiske-Hitler
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Oct 9, 2017 15:12
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DarkCrawler posted:https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000005401071.html To sort of paraphrase Halla-aho: The biggest problem for the police is that their presence on twitter is so ridiculous that it's now apparently difficult to tell apart from an obvious parody account. Let's just ban all parody, lest someone get confused. Free speech is so overrated.
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Oct 9, 2017 15:30
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El Perkele posted:It was sealed as soon as Sale decided to stay for the second term. You'd probably vote for LA but Merja Kyllönen is an utter moron. SDP is running a box of cardboard and the Greens will run a neoliberal monster who's essentially Sauli but slightly worse.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:27
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It's the presidential elections so it doesn't matter anyway
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Oct 9, 2017 18:29
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Andrast posted:It's the presidential elections so it doesn't matter anyway That's about it. In terms of how much influence elections have in your daily life, the presidential elections have the least.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:42
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Rexroom posted:That's about it. In terms of how much influence elections have in your daily life, the presidential elections have the least. The prez still has a lot of influence over foreign policy, formally and informally. It's a fairly important position if the foreign affairs minister turns out to be a complete idiot, like now.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:54
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Kemper Boyd posted:The prez still has a lot of influence over foreign policy, formally and informally. It's a fairly important position if the foreign affairs minister turns out to be a complete idiot, like now. That's another thing: how much power should the president have in foreign policy? According to law, it is decided by the president "with the government". Niinistö's interpretation of that sentence is that the president decides and the government more or less rubber-stamps his proposals. How you view it might depend on your view of political strongmen like UKK and Paavo Väyrynen.
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Oct 9, 2017 19:42
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Rexroom posted:That's another thing: how much power should the president have in foreign policy? According to law, it is decided by the president "with the government". Niinistö's interpretation of that sentence is that the president decides and the government more or less rubber-stamps his proposals. How you view it might depend on your view of political strongmen like UKK and Paavo Väyrynen. This is probably a case where, while it might not be generally good, it turned out ok. I don't think a single cabinet for a long while has had this much of a lack of understanding of politics, never mind foreign policy. A more assertive PM might control foreign policy more but Sipilä doesn't seem to be aware of the outside world even existing, apart from being a possible cash source for his relatives. Niinistö's diplomacy with Russia has been more or less ok, and has preserved the necessary space for Finland to have an actual independent foreign policy.
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Oct 9, 2017 21:11
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El Perkele posted:Thread! Give me a reason to vote for anything else but empty in this election. 
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In ordinary bizarre news, Yle journalist and known idiot Sanna Ukkola tried to get a random Twitter dude fired, backfires (or at least right now it looks like it backfires): http://blogit.image.fi/paivystavaanarkisti/ala-twiittaa-ukkolasta-saatat-saada-potkut/
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