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Cybernetic Vermin posted:automatic coordinated updating and reinstalling on new machines with one click are decent bonuses This is correct and good but no one has ever managed it in a reasonable way yet on windows. Ninite / Chocolatey and others just blindly install with all of the default options set, resulting in a system that has its explorer context menus carpet bombed with poo poo, a bunch of dumb startup crap enabled, and god knows what else. Windows software has too long a history of requiring customization during install to do any of it seamlessly someone go buy paint.net from the app store and let us know if it still blows up the context menus for image files with "edit with paint.net" etc e: oh god this is the worst snype
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:turns out wangos-store has similar stuff but I guess we should hate new thing or something in favor yolo-ing an unauditable mess of MSI with admin rights yeah it's good but the windows store is a mess. the real problem is windows not having sandboxing built in by default, but built ontop of windows 10, which is built on top of windows ... NT? which has to be compatible with everything back to grandas computer
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:turns out wangos-store has similar stuff but I guess we should hate new thing or something in favor yolo-ing an unauditable mess of MSI with admin rights it would help if the store wasn't so completely filled with garbage that it's brand toxic. the only reason I heard of to use it is to get your games rated for free
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Oct 9, 2017 20:53
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The IntegrityLevel component of UAC allows for something resembling sandboxing and keeps internal app poo poo out of the user profile data in most situations but its Completely Optional (because lol Microsoft) and everyone defaults to using Medium or High integrity instead of Low to keep their stuff restricted in to AppData\Low where it belong. MS does all this good+cool poo poo and they completely fails on the Implimentation and followthrough and Windows devs are bottom of the barrel trash
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OldAlias posted:also if there is a custom install option it is usually necessary, otherwise hope you like bundled malware (gently caress you oracle). and redundant libraries. linux has this poo poo better figured out ffs Linux installs from package repos will include random poo poo you don't need and/or will actively break your poo poo.
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Shaggar posted:Linux installs from package repos will include random poo poo you don't need and/or will actively break your poo poo.
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Oct 9, 2017 20:58
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no when I install the same apps on windows they don't have the crap added by the Linux repo maintainers.
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Oct 9, 2017 20:59
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I don't think anyone has to be convinced that Linux is Bad
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Oct 9, 2017 21:02
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Shaggar posted:Linux installs from package repos will include random poo poo you don't need and/or will actively break your poo poo. you can see what's getting pulled in beforehand and if you need some specific version of a package that conflicts you can use virtual envs or local install to not gently caress with things globally. its funny that random idiots are much more trustworthy than large corporations
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Oct 9, 2017 21:03
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if you have to examine their work ahead of time then they aren't trustworthy. also it means you cant use your built in package manager
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Oct 9, 2017 21:12
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Windows has many problems but SxS is not one of them
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Oct 9, 2017 21:14
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thread title is deceitful mods, this thread is haunted by the spooky ghost of win mobile 10
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Oct 9, 2017 21:14
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I love my dead gay phone os
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Oct 9, 2017 21:15
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Shaggar posted:I love my dead gay phone os It's better than Android.
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Oct 9, 2017 21:17
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 that metro is now only used on platforms it doesn't belong on
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Oct 9, 2017 21:20
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Fiedler posted:It's better than Android. real high bar you're setting there
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Oct 9, 2017 21:27
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Condiv posted:
hahahahaha
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Oct 9, 2017 21:44
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Condiv posted:
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 remember this guy lol haha
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Oct 10, 2017 01:01
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Oct 10, 2017 01:03
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has anybody said  windows phone yet?
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:has anybody said Windows phone never truly dies. An andromeda strain lives on in Redmond.
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Oct 10, 2017 04:25
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Amethyst posted:
nice hair, douchebag
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Oct 10, 2017 04:59
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lol https://www.ghacks.net/2017/10/09/beware-update-kb4046355-removes-windows-media-player/ quote:The Windows 10 update KB4046355 for the Fall Creators Update -- listed as FeatureOnDemandMediaPlayer - Windows 10 for x64-based Systems (KB4046355) removes Windows Media Player from the operating system.
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Oct 10, 2017 05:16
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another good change from making paint.net store-compatible: you don't have to copy plugins to C:\Program Files\Paint.NET anymore, you can copy them into a directory under your home directory now.
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Wheany posted:another good change from making paint.net store-compatible: you don't have to copy plugins to C:\Program Files\Paint.NET anymore, you can copy them into a directory under your home directory now. quote:But what about plugins?! COACHS SPORT BAR posted:lol anthonypants fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Oct 10, 2017 05:48
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that's exactly what i said
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Oct 10, 2017 06:42
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Seems like someone hosed up visual studio online so everything is taking a million years. Don't worry guys, they've identified the cause: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vsoservice/?p=15176 quote:The issue has been isolated to slow calls to our central Shared Platform Service due to high processor time on all web tiers. Slow because it's going slow, the most technical of technical explanations.
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Oct 10, 2017 10:04
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Amethyst posted:
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360 https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071857370595328
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SupSuper posted:https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360 from https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402529(v=vs.105).aspx quote:If you've previously developed .NET or XAML apps, you can transfer these skills to develop Windows Phone apps that use XAML for the UI and C# or Visual Basic for the code. Is this page helpful?
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Oct 10, 2017 12:03
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SupSuper posted:https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360 have you tried turning it off and then never turning it on again
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Amethyst posted:
this was the one running the key parties right?
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I feel a little sad about the death of WinPho. Not as sad as Palm, but a little.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I feel a little sad about the death of WinPho. Not as sad as Palm, but a little. it's sad because if handled better it could have been a good phone ecosystem
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easy to feel sad about it as a monstrous waste of time and resources at least, it wasn't entirely half-hearted, they went back and forth between rather monumental efforts and then periods of bungling also probably too late for a third platform around now. had one listened to tech journalists it has been forever, but i think it has been the last few years where it has gotten properly tricky. e.g. this morning my primary bank switched their online banking to *require* using their app for authenticating and approving transfers, it exists for ios, android, and, still, windows phone. switching into an ecosystem outside of those three would mean having to switch banks now. i have a few more examples which are similarly restrictive more than a little sad that the days of new phone platforms are over, the duopoly being fully established
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I feel a little sad about the death of WinPho. Not as sad as Palm, but a little. yes, i too am sad when my favorite corporation introduces a me-too product that fails
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we tried real hard. late nights. ordering in. believe me
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Wheany posted:yes, i too am sad when my favorite corporation introduces a me-too product that fails now google can race to the bottom even faster because they're pretty much in non-compete mode with apple by carving out completely different user segments. not that Microsoft was doing much there in the first place, but they were the only other company with the resources to actually attempt it in the first place
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:now google can race to the bottom even faster because they're pretty much in non-compete mode with apple by carving out completely different user segments. not that Microsoft was doing much there in the first place, but they were the only other company with the resources to actually attempt it in the first place 
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cool thank u for ironic detachment I will really think on these salient points you have definitely made
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