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don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012

I used to be the VP of a D&D club. I was mostly responsible for greeting new people. So this new guy shows up. He's got long hair in a low ponytail and is wearing a blue wolf and moon t-shirt. You know the one. Anyway we chat for about five minutes and the whole time he's staring at my baggy-t-shirt-covered chest. Like, laser-visioned onto it. I was young and anxious so I didn't say anything, but I KNEW that guy hated women. I was loving sure of it.

Later I had a conversation with him (and by had a conversation I mean he came up to my table in an eatery and started talking with no invitation) in which he discussed KILLING AND BEHEADING HIS SISTER because she was "such a whore."

Oh and he was an incel, but he said something like forced celibacy or something

A lot of people can spot misogynists--not all the time, but not every misogynist is good at hiding it a la Ted Bundy (obv not all misogynists are serial killers, but w/e)

Edit:

antitherapyincels sound like my mom posted:

therapy = paying for someone to care about you for an hour. it's prostitution for your feelings. normal people have friends to help with their feelings, which does not require money.

don longjohns fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Oct 10, 2017

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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

failing forward posted:

I used to be the VP of a D&D club. I was mostly responsible for greeting new people. So this new guy shows up. He's got long hair in a low ponytail and is wearing a blue wolf and moon t-shirt. You know the one. Anyway we chat for about five minutes and the whole time he's staring at my baggy-t-shirt-covered chest. Like, laser-visioned onto it. I was young and anxious so I didn't say anything, but I KNEW that guy hated women. I was loving sure of it.

Later I had a conversation with him (and by had a conversation I mean he came up to my table in an eatery and started talking with no invitation) in which he discussed KILLING AND BEHEADING HIS SISTER because she was "such a whore."

Oh and he was an incel, but he said something like forced celibacy or something

A lot of people can spot misogynists--not all the time, but not every misogynist is good at hiding it a la Ted Bundy (obv not all misogynists are serial killers, but w/e)

Edit:

Jeez, can't I be a creepy silent sex weird at you without you assuming I'm gonna kill any women?

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
People don't have magic mind-reading powers and anyone who thinks they are an impeccable judge of character on sight alone is just a judgemental rear end in a top hat with a chronic case of confirmation bias and/or an inability to ever admit they were wrong.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
There are some false negatives but really not a lot of false positives.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
Normies: "Omg, you're such a waste of space, food, and air. You're pathetic. Off yourself virgin nerd fagg0t."

Also normies: "No, don't off yourself! There's so much you will miss in life if you do! Please don't do it!"

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Always bet on misogyny.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth
Lessons from Harry Potter. The saga of Snape (incel) vs. James (chad)


quote:

the snape/james/lily dynamic was what i primarily got out of the 7-book series.
if you're born an incel (marked very clearly in snape's looks), people will shun you despite your best intentions, until you explode with bitterness and lash out. then they will hone in on your meltdown as reason to ostracize you further. in the process, your very looks turn dark and unappealing as biology itself punishes you for being born subhuman and malformed.
meanwhile, the bright glowing boy who is phenotypically a chad, he gets a free pass for all the lovely things he did early on. james' bullying nature was redeemed and "cured" while snape's "racism" towards mudbloods was not, but primarily because the former got the loving attention and warm soil that he needed in which to grow, while snape was rejected as a creep from day one, and so did not.
finally, after chad is given all rewards in life and the incel has been left to grow warped and disfigured through the cruelty of time, there may come a point in which the incel proves useful to society in some manner (think of the engineering/scientist dorks who developed modern technology while getting shoved into lockers). so, when snape was called upon to sacrifice his soul and live a double life for decades in the midst of repugnant evil, he did so out of pure love for lily. he did not expect any public acknowledgement or worldly tributes in return. he literally did the most selfless act you could think of in the series by far.
how is he rewarded? how is he perceived? well after he died, most readers felt a twinge of sympathy for him, but felt it was really "creepy" what he did. lily was dead and didn't want him when he was alive, so what a creep for obsessing over her for decades like that! also he didn't do anything photogenic because he was ugly and out of the spotlight, lol james is handsome though! the most heroic guy in the book by miles is shunted to an ignominious death, his morality debated using dredged up facts from his childhood like his racism or whatever nonsensical poo poo, while the chad who did practically nothing in the book other than get killed early on and never had to suffer an ounce of pain that the incel had, is lionized and doted upon in loving memory because we love what is beautiful, what is beautiful was made for us to be loved.
what i found particularly funny is that jk rowling evidently was familiar enough with this entire dynamic to depict everything in her book very realistically in my mind, but in interviews she adamantly rejected the notion that snape was some kind of hero. rather, she took on the infuriating normie position that he was ultimately just a creep who happened to do a few good things. now, what this tells me is very important. it's not that normies don't perceive reality (as in things that transpired) in the same way we do. because they do, subconsciously, nailing even the little details about snape and james that made harry potter, to me, such a great illustration of lessons from incel. it's that they perceive all these things, down to a micro-level, but in their shallow peabrains, they manage to rationalize it as something else entirely. it's a willful ignorance that makes me hate them all the more.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
Daily reminder that of the thousands of females you have encountered your whole life not a single one desired you in any way at all.

Of all the genetic combinations and all the different types of females they all have at least one thing in common, none of them like you. It's also a bit amazing mathematically, all those permutations and combinations and not a single one likes you. In a way it's like the poo poo version of the lottery. gently caress this life, need the rope.

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012

Guy Mann posted:

People don't have magic mind-reading powers and anyone who thinks they are an impeccable judge of character on sight alone is just a judgemental rear end in a top hat with a chronic case of confirmation bias and/or an inability to ever admit they were wrong.

S'truth. Never said that.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

Harry Potter and the Nasolabial Fold

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

lazorexplosion posted:

Women cannot "gently caress" men.

Females have started bringing up guys they have had sex, saying things like this: "Teehee, I met this really hot guy at the bar last night and hosed his brains out!". Any askreddit thread where some low tier normie asks questions about sex (He's not getting any, so why not hear about other people having sex?), a female will explain who she "hosed" some Chad and the betacuck normies will say how interesting her story was, and make lame puns in a vain attempt for female attention.

But if you examine the words carefully, the females describe it as them "loving" the guy. Females are subconsciously trying to change language to put them on more equal footing with men. In a porn scene, if there is a 6'4 250 pound dude reaming out some 5'1 110 pound slut, who is the one getting hosed? In every scenario where a man and women has sex, the man is penetrating the women. There is no equality here. One sex is the dominant, penetrating partner, and the other, the submissive, and receiving partner. The fact is that as a femaloid is getting pounded and having 8 inches of solid cock shoved into any orifice of her body the male wants, she is the one getting hosed.

Females are trying to make it sound like they have power in this exchange, and that they are just as in control of the situation as the men who are filling up every one of her disgusting holes. Don't fall for this deception. Don't acquiesce and accept this change, if you find yourself about to say something like "And then she hosed him", change it to "And then he hosed her".

The fact is that as the male is the dominant, penetrating partner, he is the one doing the loving, plain and simple.

Its true. Life is just brazzers videos on repeat.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
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Biscuit Hider
It always pisses me the gently caress off when I see some norman-scum suggest that Incels should think and give a chance towards dating transexual femoids. Why gently caress would anyone of us do that? Seriously. I wonder what goes through the Norman brain when they suggest such degenerate crap like that. Trannies are a bunch of mentally ill retards who are pretending to be femoids while actually being men. Which means, they have cawks. Why in damnation would we, heterosexual men, want to get into relationship with another loving man? We aren't gay in any loving way. And, it still stands to the trannies who have cut off their cawks. Only a deeply mentally ill creature would cut their loving cawks off. Truly revolting.

You know, only in degenerate societies would this regressing behaviour be accepted. It truly shows how humanity have fallen and stopped progressing further when we welcome these creatures with open arms. These creatures should be admitted into mental wards because they are clearly suffering from gender disorders.

Brief note: If you're intending to argue how pretending to be femoids while being men and cutting your cawks off in normal behavior; just gently caress off. You degenerates are everything what is wrong with this society.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
It's funny because personal failures are fueling an obvious fascist resurgence.

Get it?

Because it's terrifying?

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

fruit on the bottom posted:

It always pisses me the gently caress off when I see some norman-scum suggest that Incels should think and give a chance towards dating transexual femoids. Why gently caress would anyone of us do that? Seriously. I wonder what goes through the Norman brain when they suggest such degenerate crap like that. Trannies are a bunch of mentally ill retards who are pretending to be femoids while actually being men. Which means, they have cawks. Why in damnation would we, heterosexual men, want to get into relationship with another loving man? We aren't gay in any loving way. And, it still stands to the trannies who have cut off their cawks. Only a deeply mentally ill creature would cut their loving cawks off. Truly revolting.

You know, only in degenerate societies would this regressing behaviour be accepted. It truly shows how humanity have fallen and stopped progressing further when we welcome these creatures with open arms. These creatures should be admitted into mental wards because they are clearly suffering from gender disorders.

Brief note: If you're intending to argue how pretending to be femoids while being men and cutting your cawks off in normal behavior; just gently caress off. You degenerates are everything what is wrong with this society.

/r/Incels: Which means, they have cawks

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Another loophole for females who say they hosed a man closed.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Anne Whateley posted:

There are some false negatives but really not a lot of false positives.
Depends. A lot of autistic mannerisms ping as creepy, doubly so if the autistic person happens to be a huge, intimidating looking dude. Obviously there's autistic guys who are misogynists or dangerous, but most of them probably won't be. Kinda sucks that people with developmental disorders can get caught in the net of trusting your instincts, but also, it's not like someone's obligated to talk to a stranger or whatever anyway. Once you get to know people more you can usually figure out if they're just weird but harmless.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

fruit on the bottom posted:

It always pisses me the gently caress off when I see some norman-scum suggest that Incels should think and give a chance towards dating transexual femoids. Why gently caress would anyone of us do that? Seriously. I wonder what goes through the Norman brain when they suggest such degenerate crap like that. Trannies are a bunch of mentally ill retards who are pretending to be femoids while actually being men. Which means, they have cawks. Why in damnation would we, heterosexual men, want to get into relationship with another loving man? We aren't gay in any loving way. And, it still stands to the trannies who have cut off their cawks. Only a deeply mentally ill creature would cut their loving cawks off. Truly revolting.

You know, only in degenerate societies would this regressing behaviour be accepted. It truly shows how humanity have fallen and stopped progressing further when we welcome these creatures with open arms. These creatures should be admitted into mental wards because they are clearly suffering from gender disorders.

Brief note: If you're intending to argue how pretending to be femoids while being men and cutting your cawks off in normal behavior; just gently caress off. You degenerates are everything what is wrong with this society.

Holy poo poo the lexicon. They'll be grunting like cavemen before too long.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

tote up a bags posted:

Harry Potter and the Nasolabial Fold

lol

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

ikanreed posted:

It's funny because personal failures are fueling an obvious fascist resurgence.

Get it?

Because it's terrifying?

Or maybe the capitalist overlords are shafting the proletariat and using identity politics to distract us?

Bamabalacha
Sep 18, 2006

Outta my way, ya dumb rah-rah!
The chicken goes "CAWK CAWK!"

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

The Genital That Shall Not Be Named

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

PetraCore posted:

Depends. A lot of autistic mannerisms ping as creepy, doubly so if the autistic person happens to be a huge, intimidating looking dude. Obviously there's autistic guys who are misogynists or dangerous, but most of them probably won't be. Kinda sucks that people with developmental disorders can get caught in the net of trusting your instincts, but also, it's not like someone's obligated to talk to a stranger or whatever anyway. Once you get to know people more you can usually figure out if they're just weird but harmless.
Assuming we're talking about super high-functioning, verbal autistic people with normal IQs?

If you're able to internalize that other people are people, you should be able to learn normative behavior by rote by the time you're into adulthood.

If you aren't able to learn (or aren't interested in learning) that other people are people, and you can't or won't abide by big social norms, yeah that's legit dangerous.

Sure, there are people who are still awkward, but awkwardness doesn't really look like dangerous misogyny.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
If you're "awkward" talking to women, it's because the woman is MAKING you feel awkward purposely or subconsciously.

Especially if she thinks there are any romantic connotations to the conversation from the sub-Chad man's POV.

Women instinctively know how to make men insecure to keep them from hitting on her.

Ever observed women interacting with legitimate hunks? That's right. Big smiles, excessive giddyness, and with ANY sign of an awkward silence she will interject with REAFFIRMATION that makes the Chad feel like it's flowing.

The same bitch that gives you unenthusiastic one-word answers, will lead the interaction and be one big flirt when faced with a handsome man that makes her vagina tingle. It doesn't matter how mundane the topic might be.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Benny Harvey posted:

Or maybe the capitalist overlords are shafting the proletariat and using identity politics to distract us?

You really think there's a conspiracy to create incel misogynists instead of it being a natural consequence of letting idiots find other idiots who agree with them?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

fruit on the bottom posted:

It always pisses me the gently caress off when I see some norman-scum...

Whoa now, lets not get too hastings calling people names.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Barudak posted:

Whoa now, lets not get too hastings calling people names.

shut up loser, i'm a chad who's conquered 1066 women

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

shut up loser, i'm a chad who's conquered 1066 women

1066? Barely even beta-chump status.

Check your wrist size, then get back to me.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

It's just a preference, though! No violent underlying bigotry to unpack there, nooo sir!

I'm a huge fan of the weird baby talk mixed in with insane far right poo poo. Just call it a dick ffs, I've never heard anyone talk like that about sex poo poo outside of the f plus episode on diaper fetishists

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Barudak posted:

Whoa now, lets not get too hastings calling people names.

Anglo-Saxcel

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

:vince:

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Anne Whateley posted:

Assuming we're talking about super high-functioning, verbal autistic people with normal IQs?

If you're able to internalize that other people are people, you should be able to learn normative behavior by rote by the time you're into adulthood.

If you aren't able to learn (or aren't interested in learning) that other people are people, and you can't or won't abide by big social norms, yeah that's legit dangerous.

Sure, there are people who are still awkward, but awkwardness doesn't really look like dangerous misogyny.
Yeah I was more talking about awkwardness, and stuff like eye contact discrepancies and potentially staring. But then again I worked out how long until a glance became a stare when I was a kid, so that's the sort of thing people should have down by adulthood. But yeah I was referring more to body language and not anything actually said, because once you start talking to someone it's a lot easier to tell, like you said. Awkwardness and dangerous misogyny are different.

PetraCore fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Oct 10, 2017

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

ikanreed posted:

You really think there's a conspiracy to create incel misogynists instead of it being a natural consequence of letting idiots find other idiots who agree with them?

No. I was referring to the general rise of the far right. I think incels are an insignificant minority.

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

"How Normies think "personality" works lmao"




Uhhh no one tell them that is in fact how it works

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

I like how he grows taller and whiter after each panel

Theokotos
Jan 22, 2015

Fallen Rib
How did his glasses stay on before he grew a nose? :psyduck:

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

The main character's self-image metamorphoses over the course of the comic, as his commitment to improving his character becomes more apparent. A :unsmith: Cartoon.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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SatansOnion posted:

The main character's self-image metamorphoses over the course of the comic, as his commitment to improving his character becomes more apparent. A :unsmith: Cartoon.
Except for the racism, I agree.

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

SatansOnion posted:

The main character's self-image metamorphoses over the course of the comic, as his commitment to improving his character becomes more apparent. A :unsmith: Cartoon.

Yeah but he becomes more white

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Fact: the only woman worth noticing in life is a conventionally hot woman

Fact: hot women exist for sex; their problems and complaints are an emission byproduct that need to be managed between gently caress sessions

Fact: making friends and growing is only worthwhile if a hot woman validates your self-respect

Fact: every man who tries to better himself is entitled to and is owed a hot woman

Fact: any man who attracts and fucks more than one woman is upsetting this birthright

Fact: self-care involves growing a foot and becoming white

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KillerJunglist
May 22, 2007

Lion of Judah protect you, Jah be praised.

lazorexplosion posted:

"How Normies think "personality" works lmao"




Uhhh no one tell them that is in fact how it works

But the end result of these things is usually good friends, wonderful memories and a committed, loving relationship. Who would want any of that?? Incels just want all the girls to touch their cawks!

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