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IRQ posted:How do you feel about Priuses? New thread title.
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Oct 5, 2017 20:37
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Deteriorata posted:10k CAN is roughly 8k US, so I'll work from that. Holy poo poo, both the prius and the Mazda 3 look like great options for me. Searching within 500 km yields zero Prius, but several promising options for Mazda 3's. Thank you so much for the help. I've been planning this buy for a while so I am definitely going to take my time and test drive a lot and make sure I get a car that's comfortable.
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Oct 5, 2017 21:34
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No Priuses at all? That's strange, unless you're in like the northwest territories or something.
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Oct 5, 2017 21:48
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Wrong thread.
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Oct 5, 2017 21:51
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Are there certain years I should be avoiding in a used Mazda3?
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Oct 6, 2017 07:48
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Russian Remoulade posted:Are there certain years I should be avoiding in a used Mazda3? No, but look carefully for rust. You don't want to buy a rusty one.
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Oct 6, 2017 14:33
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rngd in the womb posted:just saw the pics of the Minis. Yikes! I was already leaning towards a Prius and Civic anyways, so my feelings are reinforced now. Although Imprezas still seems attractive to me. Back to research! There were a bunch of '17 model year Subarus at Subaru of Plano in north DFW that were marked down massively due to hail damage back last spring. Think of it this way - that WRX that's marked down 10k because of massive hail damage? That means that there's way more than 10k in repairs to be done, otherwise the dealer isn't making money on the deal. If you're ok with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHgZsWH8p30 then go ahead and buy. (edit: I know that's a Mitsu dealer, but it's from the same storm that rolled through).
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Oct 6, 2017 15:17
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Twerk from Home posted:No, but look carefully for rust. You don't want to buy a rusty one. Not sure about Mazdas in particular, but look inside the doors at the bottom. My CR-V looks decent on the outside but the inside of the driver's door at the bottom is an area of concern.
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Oct 6, 2017 16:54
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I ended up finding two Mazda 3 options that were pretty close. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/lethbridge/2010-mazda-mazda3-gx/1269810426 Has air con and cruise control or: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/lethbridge/2009-mazda-mazda3-gx/1256817231 no cruise control though :/
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Oct 6, 2017 18:09
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The cheaper one is a stick, not sure if that matters to you.
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Oct 6, 2017 18:23
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IRQ posted:The cheaper one is a stick, not sure if that matters to you. I learned on a stick. But the lack of cruise control is probably a non-starter for me. I take a few 7 hour road trips every year. Edit: Is it better to go through a dealership or can I buy off regular kijiji or local markets? Should I get cars inspected if I buy off a rando? If so, how? Mezzanon fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Oct 6, 2017 18:51
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Mezzanon posted:
You should get all used cars inspected by a trusted mechanic. It is a Pre-purchase Inspection or PPI and is totally worth it. Mechanics can put the car on a lift and know more about frequent problems that type of car would have and look for those problems. If the seller doesn't agree to one, walk away and don't come back because they are hiding something. As for finding a good mechanic in your area, you gotta ask around. I think Car Talk's website had a source for that, but that was a while ago and US focused. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Oct 6, 2017 20:32
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Can someone explain how and why the Prius is the go to driving appliance? Whenever I defend its merits to other car dorks they always whinge that everything the Prius does the Corolla does better, and I'm not informed enough on modern economy cars to be able to refute it with cursory googling.
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Oct 7, 2017 19:21
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Forums Terrorist posted:Can someone explain how and why the Prius is the go to driving appliance? Whenever I defend its merits to other car dorks they always whinge that everything the Prius does the Corolla does better, and I'm not informed enough on modern economy cars to be able to refute it with cursory googling. The Prius is lower maintenance and higher gas mileage than a Corolla. However, the Corolla will have better braking, acceleration, and handling than the Prius. It's a matter of what you value. A Prius is a toaster on wheels. Some people prefer that.
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Oct 7, 2017 19:24
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Better fuel economy, less maintenance required, possibly more reliable. The Corolla might be better to drive but that's not what the Prius is about.
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Oct 7, 2017 19:26
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No, as in they argue the Corolla gets same or better mileage and is cheaper to fix and run. The battery is the obvious point and I know that the price of the battery replacement has come down now that people can replace individual cells, I just want something hard I can point at to shut up Prius haters.
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Oct 7, 2017 19:39
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Forums Terrorist posted:No, as in they argue the Corolla gets same or better mileage and is cheaper to fix and run. They are straight up full of poo poo, tell them to stop getting their auto facts from children on YouTube who really want to be Jeremy Clarkson
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Oct 7, 2017 19:48
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Forums Terrorist posted:No, as in they argue the Corolla gets same or better mileage and is cheaper to fix and run. The battery is the obvious point and I know that the price of the battery replacement has come down now that people can replace individual cells, I just want something hard I can point at to shut up Prius haters. The Corolla is rated 28/35 (C/H) and the Prius is 54/50, so they're full of it. According to Edmunds' TCO estimator, a 2013 Corolla will cost about $119/mo total repair and maintenance, averaged over five years. A 2013 Prius will cost about 115/mo. Consider the possibility that the people you're arguing with aren't very smart.
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Oct 7, 2017 19:49
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Forums Terrorist posted:No, as in they argue the Corolla gets same or better mileage and is cheaper to fix and run. The battery is the obvious point and I know that the price of the battery replacement has come down now that people can replace individual cells, I just want something hard I can point at to shut up Prius haters. Basically, new car vs new car, the Prius is more expensive to buy but gets better mileage obviously and is also 1) a slightly larger car inside, closer to a Camry, and the hatchback form factor is more convenient and 2) the Prius for the same price comes with marginally more gadgets and whatnot, so the actual difference in price isn't quite as large as is reflected in the MSRP, but still, I would say it's a fair point that if all you want is cheap and you care about literally nothing else a new Prius isn't the best choice. I usually recommend VWs for people looking for the cheapest shittiest new car, especially if they don't do a lot of city driving, where the Prius' gas mileage really shines. For used, the price differential in absolute terms comes down, the Prius is very reliable, still gets good gas mileage, and is what you should probably buy.
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Oct 7, 2017 19:51
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Deteriorata posted:Consider the possibility that the people you're arguing with aren't very smart. it's discord CAR GUYSSSS, so yes That said, I really appreciate the info!
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Oct 7, 2017 19:57
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The Prius consumes batteries at a slightly higher rate than the corolla consumes engines and transmissions. All wear items have a vastly longer life. I have a colleague who got 100k miles out of first fit brake pads.
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Oct 8, 2017 02:40
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Do Toyota dealerships replace individual Prius battery cells? I'm lucky enough to have a local shop that offers that service for cheap
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Oct 8, 2017 02:57
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Deteriorata posted:The Prius is lower maintenance and higher gas mileage than a Corolla. However, the Corolla will have better braking, acceleration, and handling than the Prius. A toaster on wheels sounds like a great idea to meet my nutritional needs.
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Oct 8, 2017 23:33
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EugeneJ posted:Do Toyota dealerships replace individual Prius battery cells? Highly doubtful. Dealerships treat major assemblies as single parts. They don't rebuild short blocks, heads, transmissions, or hybrid batteries. They remove it, replace it with a new one, and ship the old one back to be remanufactured. And yes, it seems like about any decently sized area has at least one person rebuilding Prius batteries on their own. It's not hugely difficult to do, especially once you have a few defective packs to pull parts from.
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Oct 9, 2017 01:23
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Probably going to go pick up a 2017 GMC Sierra this weekend, taking advantage of their 0% financing deals going on right now. I'm getting roughly 20% off MSRP on one of the higher end models (SLT All Terrain, with the 6.2L engine). Is there any reason not to do this deal (aside from calling me crazy for spending almost $50k on a truck)? Any known issues with these trucks/engines? I was originally in the market for an F-150 but the deals on these GMCs are better and I'm not sure the F-150 is worth $5k+ more.
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Oct 10, 2017 17:04
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chupacabraTERROR posted:Probably going to go pick up a 2017 GMC Sierra this weekend, taking advantage of their 0% financing deals going on right now. I'm getting roughly 20% off MSRP on one of the higher end models (SLT All Terrain, with the 6.2L engine). Is there any reason not to do this deal (aside from calling me crazy for spending almost $50k on a truck)? Any known issues with these trucks/engines? I was originally in the market for an F-150 but the deals on these GMCs are better and I'm not sure the F-150 is worth $5k+ more. How much you get off of MSRP is not so important. What is important is how much other people are paying for the same truck. Thus, hit up edmunds.com and kbb.com and check that poo poo out.
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Oct 10, 2017 18:24
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chupacabraTERROR posted:Any known issues with these trucks/engines? I was originally in the market for an F-150 but the deals on these GMCs are better and I'm not sure the F-150 is worth $5k+ more. I prefer fords for interior "this is where my arm goes", etc (I just don't like the door/center console layout of Chevy). But Ford/Chevy pissing matches make no sense. If you like it for the time you need to spend in it go to price. They are commodity items. Totally agree with Thermopyle here...what matters is the deal.
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Oct 11, 2017 02:20
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Do the GM's still have the "Vibration issues" that are now considered "normal" by GM? ............there is a huge thread on basically all the 2014+ having this "feature" (on a GM Trucks forum.)
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Oct 11, 2017 16:41
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I have failed you all and bought a 2018 Traverse.
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Oct 11, 2017 17:53
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I have failed you all and bought a 2018 Traverse. Congratulations on scooping up a worst in class vehicle! (why did you do that? - theres nothing completely and totally wrong with them, but they are more expensive for a shittier product than basically everything else)
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Oct 11, 2017 21:33
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Motronic posted:Congratulations on scooping up a worst in class vehicle! It boiled down to space and styling. - The best in class options would be the Highlander or Pilot. The Highlander's interior felt really cramped. There's very little space in the 3rd row, a tiny space between the captain's chairs and basically no space in the trunk with the third row up. I hate everything about the Pilot's appearance, it looks like a bloated CRV. I actually much preferred the look of the 2015 and prior models. - I was very interested in the Ford Flex. But it was very hard in my area to find any decent selection of trims. Also, my wife refused to be seen in it. Some people really hate this model. - I don't like Ford Explorers, I have no idea why, the new ones aren't bad, it's just a thing with me. - I looked at the Durango but I was not impressed with the engine or ride, and was not really keen on buying from FCA. - Not interested in owning a VW, so no Atlas. - Did not want a minivan. So the Traverse hit the two things that I was looking for. It has the interior space feeling of a minivan, without being a full sized SUV like a Suburban or it's brethren, and the redesign of the exterior looks absolutely gorgeous, at least to me. I would not say the interior quality suffers from the typical GM problems of hard plastic and poor surfaces. Maybe due to the recent refresh? Compared to the other brands I checked out, it seemed very comparable. I realize that for the price I'm paying I'm not getting the same set of features (especially safety related) that would be standard with other brands, but I'm ok with that. Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 22:09
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I think the Traverse looks pretty nice. 
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Oct 11, 2017 22:33
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The Star Wars prequels look pretty nice, too. It's just pretty isn't the same thing as good. I guess the Traverse is a reasonable choice for someone who basically wants a minivan without the self-inflicted stigma of owning a minivan 
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Oct 11, 2017 22:42
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Eric the Mauve posted:The Star Wars prequels look pretty nice, too. It's just pretty isn't the same thing as good. In this analogy which brand is jar jar?
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Oct 11, 2017 23:15
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The problem with the Traverse is that it looks like your average Chevy. Of course, beauty is pretty subjective, but to my eye the Chevy corporate "look" is so bland. However, from a purely functional standpoint it seems like an OK vehicle.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:18
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I dunno all your complaints seem really specific and nitpicky, I wouldn't really buy a vehicle based on any of those criteria and I would just get a minivan so
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Oct 11, 2017 23:22
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If you need a minivan just get a minivan. No one's going to see you driving around a 3-row SUV with cheerios all over the seats and think "oh yeah, that guy is a rugged individualist."
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Oct 12, 2017 01:11
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I don't wanna pay to drive a car I hate. 
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Oct 12, 2017 01:29
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prom candy posted:If you need a minivan just get a minivan. No one's going to see you driving around a 3-row SUV with cheerios all over the seats and think "oh yeah, that guy is a rugged individualist." Thermopyle posted:People sometimes forget that for vehicles (really anything you buy) are not just about the utility they provide but about the emotions they cause you to have. There's nothing wrong with preferring an SUV over a minivan, particularly if you acknowledge what you're doing.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:34
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Fair enough, I don't dislike minivans at all so maybe that's why I think it's so crazy to go out of your way to not buy one. If I had a couple of kids my rear end would be in an Odyssey so quick.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:53
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