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Les Os posted:gently caress New York, last year it made no sense to me that HRC, Trump, Sanders, O'Malley, Christie, Santorum and Pataki were all from the northeast and the top candidates all had heavy ties to the state of NY. I don't like that a 3rd of our media is produced for or focused there and I don't like that the concerns of the residents of our megalopolis are weighted heavier than the the concerns of the rest of the country You're just a simpleton who can't handle the more worldly perspective living in New York can give you. *Publishes an article about the time I shat myself when a homeless man made eye contact with me*
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Les Os posted:gently caress New York, last year it made no sense to me that HRC, Trump, Sanders, O'Malley, Christie, Santorum and Pataki were all from the northeast and the top candidates all had heavy ties to the state of NY. I don't like that a 3rd of our media is produced for or focused there and I don't like that the concerns of the residents of our megalopolis are weighted heavier than the the concerns of the rest of the country This is what imperialism looks like. The most important people seem to come from one place that projects its worldview onto everybody else, and which has industries that control the decisive amount of capital. New York City is the de facto capital of the United States, and if Washington DC wasn't in the de jure limbo of being a Federal district - it would also have a massively outweighed political & cultural inflluence.
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At some point did people forget that New York City has normal everyday struggling Americans living in it? It's not 8 and half million Clinton Cultists on the Death March for Neo-Liberalism living here, there are people that wake up every loving day that worry about where their rent money is going to come from, if they'll have enough money to buy groceries, outsole struggling everyday to just be human while living on the streets. Your loving crazy to think three media elite would represent America better if it was based out of Des Moine. The problem isn't the location
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KomradeX posted:At some point did people forget that New York City has normal everyday struggling Americans living in it? It's not 8 and half million Clinton Cultists on the Death March for Neo-Liberalism living here, there are people that wake up every loving day that worry about where their rent money is going to come from, if they'll have enough money to buy groceries, outsole struggling everyday to just be human while living on the streets. Your loving crazy to think three media elite would represent America better if it was based out of Des Moine. The problem isn't the location 
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KomradeX posted:At some point did people forget that New York City has normal everyday struggling Americans living in it? It's not 8 and half million Clinton Cultists on the Death March for Neo-Liberalism living here, there are people that wake up every loving day that worry about where their rent money is going to come from, if they'll have enough money to buy groceries, outsole struggling everyday to just be human while living on the streets. Your loving crazy to think three media elite would represent America better if it was based out of Des Moine. The problem isn't the location they should rise up and overthrow the overlords then https://youtu.be/VLbWnJGlyMU got any sevens has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This is what imperialism looks like. The most important people seem to come from one place that projects its worldview onto everybody else, and which has industries that control the decisive amount of capital. New York City is the de facto capital of the United States, and if Washington DC wasn't in the de jure limbo of being a Federal district - it would also have a massively outweighed political & cultural inflluence. i'm a maoist-flyoverist
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got any sevens posted:they should rise up and overthrow the overlords then Maybe Kansas can overthrow theirs first?
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KomradeX posted:Maybe Kansas can overthrow theirs first? Kansas' overlords are in New York though.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Is that Jim Carrey? Chris Christie
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KomradeX posted:At some point did people forget that New York City has normal everyday struggling Americans living in it? It's not 8 and half million Clinton Cultists on the Death March for Neo-Liberalism living here, there are people that wake up every loving day that worry about where their rent money is going to come from, if they'll have enough money to buy groceries, outsole struggling everyday to just be human while living on the streets. Your loving crazy to think three media elite would represent America better if it was based out of Des Moine. The problem isn't the location Location is always a decisive factor in historical development, and the struggles of everyday jagoffs don't matter in the formation of capitalist society.
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KomradeX posted:At some point did people forget that New York City has normal everyday struggling Americans living in it? It's not 8 and half million Clinton Cultists on the Death March for Neo-Liberalism living here, there are people that wake up every loving day that worry about where their rent money is going to come from, if they'll have enough money to buy groceries, outsole struggling everyday to just be human while living on the streets. Your loving crazy to think three media elite would represent America better if it was based out of Des Moine. The problem isn't the location the problem has nothing to do with where the elite decides to physically exist, it's that there is an elite at all
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Kansas' overlords are in New York though. Last I checked Kansas Republicans don't live in New York
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KomradeX posted:Last I checked Kansas Republicans don't live in New York Pat Roberts, republican senator from Kansas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Roberts went to school at Kansas State University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_University where is their main campus? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan,_Kansas how far does the rabbit hole go, neo?
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:Pat Roberts, republican senator from Kansas Well my argument is destroyed
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KomradeX posted:Last I checked Kansas Republicans don't live in New York And yet their wealth is more than likely being managed by New York firms, and they voted for the most New Yorkiest New York guy to be their president.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:And yet their wealth is more than likely being managed by New York firms, and they voted for the most New Yorkiest New York guy to be their president. And yet it's not New York that has destroyed their school system and bankrupted the state to give wealthy Kansans tax cuts. You can blame New York all you want but New York didn't give them Sam Brown.
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You washy to talk about how the major population centers aren't considering the needs of rural people, yet these local politicians don't care about the needs of rural people.
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KomradeX posted:And yet it's not New York that has destroyed their school system and bankrupted the state to give wealthy Kansans tax cuts. You can blame New York all you want but New York didn't give them Sam Brown. Brownback's policies were literally written by right wing East Coast think tanks fueled by billionaire dark money. Politics are never purely local in an imperialistic framework. It's hard to even tell exactly what it is you're reacting against. Nobody said that Mets fans covered in mustard stains have an excessive cultural and political influence on the rest of the country.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:i'm a maoist-flyoverist Same honestly.
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love 2 objectify breast cancer, aka the sexiest cancer
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i wonder if male sentiment towards breast cancer would change if all mastectomies resulted in massive breast implants how much of breast cancer awareness is tied up in boob lust
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Someone could probably use the whole Breast Cancer Awareness thing to study the failures of feminism in America.
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the brands are now competing to be the least woke https://twitter.com/SawMovie/status/915980434609102848
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Atrocious Joe posted:the brands are now competing to be the least woke Which one is the unwoke brand here? Makes perfect sense to me: Wallstreet is jigsaw and America is the sadistic murder trap.
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Atrocious Joe posted:the brands are now competing to be the least woke Loving the accidental They Live reference
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Brownback's policies were literally written by right wing East Coast think tanks fueled by billionaire dark money. Politics are never purely local in an imperialistic framework. That you somehow think New York is an imperialist aggressor in this is insane. That'a what I'm reacting too. Because it's really loving weird seeing supposed leftist adopt Right Wing criticism of New York unironcally and calling it anti-imperialism. It doesn't matter where Therese think tanks are located but local politicians still follow their ideological views.
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New York, the Wall Street state, has done untold damage to midwest economies.
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The Kingfish posted:New York, the Wall Street state, has done untold damage to midwest economies. Hasn't done much good for New York's economy either. Look at the Right Wing hellscape that is Upstate New York gutted just as badly as the Midwest. NYC has poverty all over the place where the service jobs can barley cover rent. It's not like New Yorkers are all living fat on the hog off of the old wealth of Mid-West. You want to talk about how evil Wall Street, Capitalism and the Capitalist are yeah they should be hanged from every light pole from Whitehall to Colombus Circle. But acting like New York is the cause and not capitalism is loving regionalist bullshit
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you're thinking about this too much from a strictly political framework and not enough about how imperialism functions as a system of capital.
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KomradeX posted:Hasn't done much good for New York's economy either. Look at the Right Wing hellscape that is Upstate New York gutted just as badly as the Midwest. NYC has poverty all over the place where the service jobs can barley cover rent. It's not like New Yorkers are all living fat on the hog off of the old wealth of Mid-West. You want to talk about how evil Wall Street, Capitalism and the Capitalist are yeah they should be hanged from every light pole from Whitehall to Colombus Circle. But acting like New York is the cause and not capitalism is loving regionalist bullshit Imagine an argument that the British Empire wasn't imperialist because of the brutal conditions its proletariat were subjected to. Of course capitalism is the cause, but capital often acts through imperialism.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:you're thinking about this too much from a strictly political framework and not enough about how imperialism functions as a system of capital. And Capital and imperialism are political frameworks The Kingfish posted:Imagine an argument that the British Empire wasn't imperialist because of the brutal conditions its proletariat were subjected to. I didn't realize the NYPD were occupying Michigan
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Wall Street pays for Detroit cops to drag families out of their houses. New York state allows this to happen.
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this is a dumb conversation ny is bad because people use it as part of their identity. all nationalism/regionalism must be destroyed
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KomradeX posted:And Capital and imperialism are political frameworks yeah, it's all interconnected. that's the point. power projects out from the greatest centers of capital concentration.
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Full Jeb!unism now!
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The Kingfish posted:Wall Street pays for Detroit cops to drag families out of their houses. New York state allows this to happen. Lansing does this not New York State. Acting as if the local capitalists don't have more control over state add local politics is just absurd. Pener Kropoopkin posted:yeah, it's all interconnected. that's the point. power projects out from the greatest centers of capital concentration. As you said the problem is capitalism. Not New York. And as I said above trying to claim that New York has colonized America ignores the power local capitalists have on local add state politics, the politics that impact peoples lives on a daily basis. Relin posted:this is a dumb conversation This is true and what I've been trying to get at. Nationalism and Regionalism is stupid. KomradeX has issued a correction as of 23:37 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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KomradeX posted:As you said the problem is capitalism. Not New York. And as I said above trying to claim that New York has colonized America ignores the power local capitalists have on local add state politics, the politics that impact peoples lives on a daily basis. Using local elites to control affairs is how the British empire operated, you know. Again, you're taking this way too literally. All we're doing here is explaining why New York City has such a massively outweighed influence on the rest of the country, and you keep reacting like it's not real.
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I'm not saying new yorkers are bad because they care about the yankee's, I'm not discussing those new yorkers. I'm referring to the firms in wall-street, i.e. the heart of capitalism. Yes those firms also exist in Chicago, Connecticut, Delaware, etc etc. but New York is the symbol.
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