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KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Using local elites to control affairs is how the British empire operated, you know.

Again, you're taking this way too literally. All we're doing here is explaining why New York City has such a massively outweighed influence on the rest of the country, and you keep reacting like it's not real.

The local capital class are not puppets of Wall Street. They have their own goals as pursue it. Even here in New York this is true, the shir head that owns a couple of car dealerships has more power over state politics than Merrill-Lynch. The local cops are going to be the ones getting paid off by them and making sure things are run the way they want them.

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

I'm not saying new yorkers are bad because they care about the yankee's, I'm not discussing those new yorkers. I'm referring to the firms in wall-street, i.e. the heart of capitalism.

Yes those firms also exist in Chicago, Connecticut, Delaware, etc etc. but New York is the symbol.

No the Symbol is Wall Street, it's always been Wall Street, not New York as whole. Literally over a century of Socialist slogans against Wall Street and and not New York. Christ the only people that use New York as a while as a negative are Right Wing Assholes like Ted Cruz.

KomradeX has issued a correction as of 00:02 on Oct 11, 2017

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

who were the AD WIZARDS that came up with THIS ONE

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

KomradeX posted:

The local capital class are not puppets of Wall Street. They have their own goals as pursue it. Even here in New York this is true, the shir head that owns a couple of car dealerships has more power over state politics than Merrill-Lynch. The local cops are going to be the ones getting paid off by them and making sure things are run the way they want them.

They're all invested into Wall Street. It's literally the primary locus of financial capital in the country, and arguably the entire world - and the firms which manage those trades and accounts wield immense power.

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No the Symbol is Wall Street, it's always been Wall Street, not New York as whole. Literally over a century of Socialist slogans against Wall Street and and not New York. Christ the only people that use New York as a while as a negative are Right Wing Assholes like Ted Cruz.

And yet New York also wields immense cultural influence because of the dominance of its publishing, music, film, and television industries. That's what was originally brought up about the fact that a good 1/3 of media produced in this country is all about New York City, which the rest of the country is justifiably resentful of. There are historical and material reasons for that dominance, but rather than engage with that kind of material analysis you'd rather pretend that we're attacking New Yorkers rather than the capitalist system that so heavily invests into New York as a projection of the entire country.

You may as well be trying to argue that nobody ever has to move to Los Angeles or Las Vegas to make it in showbusiness, because anybody can be a youtube star or join a theater troupe.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
New York is retarded. Derail over...

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


KomradeX posted:

Lansing does this not New York State. Acting as if the local capitalists don't have more control over state add local politics is just absurd.

Who do you think pays to file the papers that tell cops to kick people out of their homes?

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They're all invested into Wall Street. It's literally the primary locus of financial capital in the country, and arguably the entire world - and the firms which manage those trades and accounts wield immense power.


And yet New York also wields immense cultural influence because of the dominance of its publishing, music, film, and television industries. That's what was originally brought up about the fact that a good 1/3 of media produced in this country is all about New York City, which the rest of the country is justifiably resentful of. There are historical and material reasons for that dominance, but rather than engage with that kind of material analysis you'd rather pretend that we're attacking New Yorkers rather than the capitalist system that so heavily invests into New York as a projection of the entire country.

You may as well be trying to argue that nobody ever has to move to Los Angeles or Las Vegas to make it in showbusiness, because anybody can be a youtube star or join a theater troupe.

And your literally arguing that this constitutes imperialism on the rest of America that is real and authentic unlike those fake Americans in New York. You want to use right wing arguments that attack New York that's on you, especially if you want to use the Alt-Right culture is everything argument. Which is it, do rural people hate New York because Wall Street or because they get mad that media doesn't depict their Christian values enough? Let alone that this argument also included the old argument of those urban North Easteners just don't know how to represent the needs of Rural people. Ignoring that the Right Wing assholes thary come out of rural places do Jack poo poo for the people there and ignore their needs.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

The Kingfish posted:

Who do you think pays to file the papers that tell cops to kick people out of their homes?

As of if there were no local banks that foreclosed on people or illegally foreclosed on people you might have a point. But you don't Nevada's they follow the logic of capital which is not beholden to any one location. But you believe New York is an Imperialist state, instead of the state that finance capitalism has its symbol in

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

KomradeX posted:

And your literally arguing that this constitutes imperialism on the rest of America that is real and authentic unlike those fake Americans in New York. You want to use right wing arguments that attack New York that's on you, especially if you want to use the Alt-Right culture is everything argument. Which is it, do rural people hate New York because Wall Street or because they get mad that media doesn't depict their Christian values enough? Let alone that this argument also included the old argument of those urban North Easteners just don't know how to represent the needs of Rural people. Ignoring that the Right Wing assholes thary come out of rural places do Jack poo poo for the people there and ignore their needs.

New York based media doesn't even accurately reflect the lives or values of New Yorkers. It's all about rich people or being in showbusiness, when it's not some kind of police serial or crime thriller. It isn't a right wing argument to resent an overwhelming reinforcement of bourgeois values and the supposed necessity of their police state. Generally though, having one single city being the face of America to the world is inherently problematic regardless of whether you're left or right wing. Especially as that city is being slowly transformed into an exclusive playground for the rich and well connected. A process that has been ongoing since the late 70s.

You need to quit taking this all so personally.

KomradeX posted:

As of if there were no local banks that foreclosed on people or illegally foreclosed on people you might have a point. But you don't Nevada's they follow the logic of capital which is not beholden to any one location. But you believe New York is an Imperialist state, instead of the state that finance capitalism has its symbol in

It's not just a symbol, it's the highest concentration of financial wealth in the world.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

KomradeX posted:

The local capital class are not puppets of Wall Street. They have their own goals as pursue it. Even here in New York this is true, the shir head that owns a couple of car dealerships has more power over state politics than Merrill-Lynch. The local cops are going to be the ones getting paid off by them and making sure things are run the way they want them.


No the Symbol is Wall Street, it's always been Wall Street, not New York as whole. Literally over a century of Socialist slogans against Wall Street and and not New York. Christ the only people that use New York as a while as a negative are Right Wing Assholes like Ted Cruz.

new york city should loving burn hth

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

New York based media doesn't even accurately reflect the lives or values of New Yorkers. It's all about rich people or being in showbusiness, when it's not some kind of police serial or crime thriller. It isn't a right wing argument to resent an overwhelming reinforcement of bourgeois values and the supposed necessity of their police state. Generally though, having one single city being the face of America to the world is inherently problematic regardless of whether you're left or right wing. Especially as that city is being slowly transformed into an exclusive playground for the rich and well connected. A process that has been ongoing since the late 70s.

You need to quit taking this all so personally.


It's not just a symbol, it's the highest concentration of financial wealth in the world.

Yeah the problem is not the location it's the class of people but you keep changing the argument. Is it that rural people resent New York because it's over represented in media, or because the media class are upper class scum, pick an argument.

Oh no one of the most densely populated places in America has a higher concentration of wealth. Abe yes is a symbol, christ most of the day to day to work work is in Connecticut. You could burn Wall Street to the ground and their wealth will be okay because the servers aren't even in the city.

Yeah New York is a victim of capitalism where everyday people are being pushed out. To act as if it's some imperial entity controlling all of America against the will of people is attributing to a geographical location some special unique power of capitalism.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Are you guys still arguing about whether or not it's OK to say mean things about New York?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

KomradeX posted:

Oh no one of the most densely populated places in America has a higher concentration of wealth. Abe yes is a symbol, christ most of the day to day to work work is in Connecticut. You could burn Wall Street to the ground and their wealth will be okay because the servers aren't even in the city.

Yeah New York is a victim of capitalism where everyday people are being pushed out. To act as if it's some imperial entity controlling all of America against the will of people is attributing to a geographical location some special unique power of capitalism.

It literally directs the greatest share of American capital, even against the will of its own residents. It's baffling how much this is bothering you. New York is not a victim of capitalism, the city profits more than any other from its regular functions - it's New Yorkers who are its victims and everyone else by extension from that center of power.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It literally directs the greatest share of American capital, even against the will of its own residents. It's baffling how much this is bothering you. New York is not a victim of capitalism, the city profits more than any other from its regular functions - it's New Yorkers who are its victims and everyone else by extension from that center of power.

And your insistence on using regionalism to combat capital is what's truly baffling

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Guy Goodbody posted:

Are you guys still arguing about whether or not it's OK to say mean things about New York?

i knew that new yorkers could get belligerent if they thought you slighted the vicious parasite they live in New York City, Greatest City In The World but i'm still a bit amazed at the contortions he's going through to defend it

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/memeprovider/status/917576070609719298
https://twitter.com/aaronfalk/status/800521166431617024

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
"Are we the baddies?"

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Some real New York Values itt

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

ayyy, gonna mangia da pasta an' do a lil' uh da ol imperialismo on dem stunads in michigan wif my paisans

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Ayy marone, gently caress offa hamprincipe

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Fallen Hamprince posted:

ayyy, gonna mangia da pasta an' do a lil' uh da ol imperialismo on dem stunads in michigan wif my paisans

lmao

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/deray/status/917835616456527873

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



sure, deray

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



*steps up to podium and breathes heavily into the microphone*

Chicago is the people's city and has the people's pizza

Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro
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Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Business Gorillas posted:

*steps up to podium and breathes heavily into the microphone*

Chicago is the people's city and has the people's pizza

Haymarket Massacre, disqualified.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

KomradeX posted:

No the Symbol is Wall Street, it's always been Wall Street, not New York as whole. Literally over a century of Socialist slogans against Wall Street and and not New York. Christ the only people that use New York as a while as a negative are Right Wing Assholes like Ted Cruz.

Also people who live here and have seen the Truth: New Yorkers are trash.

Laphroaig
Feb 6, 2004

Drinking Smoke
Dinosaur Gum
I think someone needs to check their New York, New York privilege.









did i do that right, is that still a woke thing to say or do i need more clapping hands and gifs of tea sipping?

sword_man.gif
Apr 12, 2007

Fun Shoe

Laphroaig posted:

I think someone needs to check their New York, New York privilege.









did i do that right, is that still a woke thing to say or do i need more clapping hands and gifs of tea sipping?

:clap: HIRE :clap: MORE :clap: WOMEN :clap: COPS :clap:

Munchables
Feb 8, 2015

Ask/tell me about legal cannibalism

I 👏 JUST 👏 poo poo 👏 MY 👏 PANTS 👏

Ostiosis
Nov 3, 2002

*Michigan police looking at eviction notice

"It says this stuffs made in New York City."

"NEW YORK CITY?!?"

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/918187330053144576

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Don't see why this is here, Kim Jong-Un was right to decline the award.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

MizPiz posted:

Don't see why this is here, Kim Jong-Un was right to decline the award.

Kim Jong-Un's woke brand

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



sidenote: gently caress the komen foundation

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
The Komen CEO salary in 2010 was $459,406 a year.[36] Komen paid founder and CEO Nancy Brinker $417,712 in 2011.[37] After the Planned Parenthood controversy, donations dropped and the foundation canceled half of its fundraising 'Race for the Cure' events, but Brinkler received a 64% increase to $684,000 annually, which drew fire and was considered "extremely high" according to Charity Navigator's CEO.[38]

The organization reported that its CEO earned $483,483 of compensation during 2014 on its annual return to the Internal Revenue Service.[2] The organization also reported 13 other employees who each earned more than $175,000 of compensation, bonuses, retirement benefits, and other benefits during 2014.[2]



lol


e:

This pay package is way outside the norm. It's about a quarter of a million dollars more than what we see for charities of this size. This is more than the head of the Red Cross is making for an organization that is one-tenth the size of the Red Cross.
— Ken Berger of Charity Navigator, a group that evaluates and rates charities[118]



we're only giving you 3 out of 4 stars now

H.P. Hovercraft has issued a correction as of 02:04 on Oct 13, 2017

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

lol at being worse than the Red Cross.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

the komen foundation doesn't even concern itself with cancer research, it deals with cancer awareness

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
hey, did you hear about this thing called cancer? its bad and can happen in woman's breasts! now give me $600,000 plz

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ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
The Komen Foundation is the original "woke-brand." And most people genuinely think it's a worthy cause.

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