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Johnny is so insufferable all the time.
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Lurdiak posted:Johnny is so insufferable all the time. He really is. I'm just hitting Waid's run and a major plot point is Johnny having to grow up so maybe it will change? It doesn't seem like he's like that in the newer comics.
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Oct 11, 2017 15:55
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Push El Burrito posted:He really is. I'm just hitting Waid's run and a major plot point is Johnny having to grow up so maybe it will change? It doesn't seem like he's like that in the newer comics. "Johnny finally grows up" is one of the half dozen or so Fantastic Four stories that every writer who works on the book wants to do. (The others are: the definitive Doom story; the definitive Galactus story; replacing one or more member of the team with substitutes; Reed Richards learning to appreciate his family; and Ben coming to terms with being the thing. I suspect there's probably a few other minor ones but those are the biggies.)
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Oct 11, 2017 16:03
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Wheat Loaf posted:"Johnny finally grows up" is one of the half dozen or so Fantastic Four stories that every writer who works on the book wants to do. "Sue and Namor have a bunch of Tension" and "Sue finally gets appreciated for being strongest/smartest" is Sue's version.
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Oct 11, 2017 16:12
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Wheat Loaf posted:"Johnny finally grows up" is one of the half dozen or so Fantastic Four stories that every writer who works on the book wants to do. It's strange that this becomes a thing, because Ben very quickly becomes cool being the Thing. Alicia liked his rocky feel, and was weirded out when he went human. He also tells Reed to gently caress off with the changing potions really early on, because he's accepted his fate.
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Oct 11, 2017 17:21
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Wheat Loaf posted:"Johnny finally grows up" is one of the half dozen or so Fantastic Four stories that every writer who works on the book wants to do. "Namor is sketchy" and "loving around with Kree and Skrull politics" are other ones
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Oct 11, 2017 20:13
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They're the b-tier ones. I think they're the ones people will go for when they've done all the ones I mentioned. Johnny grows up; Ben accepts his Thingness; Reed appreciates his family; ultimate Doom story; ultimate Galactus story; replacement FF member. Those are the big ones. Not every writer hits all of them but most writers get most of them. I think Simonson is the only one who doesn't really go in for most of them; he just takes the "replacement FF member" to the extreme. This is why Simonson has the second-best FF run after Lee and Kirby.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:18
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I'm a sucker for the Ultimate FF4 metanarrative because it cycles through all the above typicals and goes to crazytown after Ultimatum with Sue dumping Reed, Ben turning into Wonderman, and Reed turning into the new pseudo-Doom.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:54
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Too bad about the art though.
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Oct 12, 2017 15:03
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They used the Ultimate origin story for that movie, too. The only comic book movie this decade that makes Batman V Superman look better in comparison.
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Oct 14, 2017 13:03
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https://twitter.com/unbeatablesg/status/920275788917862401
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Oct 17, 2017 14:15
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Lol Jim Davis hasn't drawn anything since the 70s
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Oct 17, 2017 14:55
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Those gags are so incredibly Garfield, I laughed out loud. And the way he draws Silver Surfer...
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Oct 17, 2017 18:22
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FAT BATMAN posted:Those gags are so incredibly Garfield, I laughed out loud. And the way he draws Silver Surfer... The first one is almost exactly the first Garfield comic
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Oct 17, 2017 18:23
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Phy posted:The first one is almost exactly the first Garfield comic Wait, are you saying that Jim Davis is lazily coasting on the strength of his one early success? THE HELL YOU SAY!
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Oct 17, 2017 22:57
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ecavalli posted:Wait, are you saying that Jim Davis is lazily coasting on the strength of his one early success? It's a really fitting recycling of the joke, though. I chuckled.
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Oct 17, 2017 23:46
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Jedit posted:It's a really fitting recycling of the joke, though. I chuckled. I did too, but I’m a soulless monster.
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Oct 18, 2017 00:22
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I finally figured out what it is I like so much about Hollingsworth's colours on Hawkeye, even though I wasn't actually consciously trying to figure it out. The colours are all flat. No gradients or shading. All shading or shadows are done with inks. It's like old-school comics.  Except the colours draw from an unlimited palette and are usually used realistically, which is modern. I love it. I think it only occurred to me because I've been plowing through some old comics and thinking about how the simpler palettes have something so appealing about them.
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Oct 18, 2017 01:14
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Lobok posted:I finally figured out what it is I like so much about Hollingsworth's colours on Hawkeye, even though I wasn't actually consciously trying to figure it out.  
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Oct 18, 2017 01:25
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That's cool. After a few issues you definitely start to see what he's doing there. The tricky part is choosing the one or two standout colours that define each page. The issue after the one I posted has Kate on the highway in LA and there's this particular yellowish orange that is an incredibly exact tone of skin lit by afternoon sun, with the blue sky balancing out the page.
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Oct 18, 2017 01:47
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ecavalli posted:Wait, are you saying that Jim Davis is lazily coasting on the strength of his one early success? Yeah, he makes no secret about it. But whenever he does a side thing like this it's really cool. Garfield: His 9 Lives from the 80s is really amazing, and he officially published Garfield Without Garfield. I wish he did more stuff like that, but he doesn't really need to.
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Oct 18, 2017 20:55
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There have also been some cool Garfield graphic novels:  That reminds me of this Penny Arcade post where Mike talks about meeting Jim Davis, one of his heroes.  https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2012/05/28/the-reubens eminkey2003 fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Oct 19, 2017 13:23
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eminkey2003 posted:That reminds me of this Penny Arcade post where Mike talks about meeting Jim Davis, one of his heroes. Now he's probably more of a Scott Adams fan, right?
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Oct 19, 2017 17:42
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eminkey2003 posted:There have also been some cool Garfield graphic novels: Those are good. They're based on TV specials, which, like Garfield and Friends, were actually trying. Basically, when Davis lets other people do stuff with his creations, it's generally pretty rad.
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Oct 19, 2017 23:50
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If they were trying they wouldn't have had the orson's farm segments.
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Oct 20, 2017 00:48
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Lady Lobo https://twitter.com/toshirou_cva/status/921638341639946240 and some Justice League https://twitter.com/GwynCampbell/status/921673274139930625
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Oct 21, 2017 16:05
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Chris Samnee's been doing amazing Batman daily drawings all month. https://twitter.com/ChrisSamnee/media Here's an album with everything so far https://imgur.com/a/CviC1   
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Oct 22, 2017 01:55
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One of my favourite Batmobile designs, from 1981. Wait, '81? Isn't that way too early for this kind of design? Something isn't right...  The Mighty Thor, #309
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Oct 23, 2017 20:55
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And in Simonson's run Thor met an unnamed Clark Kent.
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Oct 23, 2017 21:18
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Teenage Fansub posted:And in Simonson's run Thor met an unnamed Clark Kent. Not entirely unnamed.  
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Oct 23, 2017 21:28
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My favorite part of that is still the construction foreman figuring out that his new employee, Sigurd Jarlson, is actually Spider-Man!
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Oct 23, 2017 21:34
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Lobok posted:One of my favourite Batmobile designs, from 1981. This blows my mind that this was in 1981. I associate Leonardi with the late 80's/early 90's and he's being inked and colored by Chic Stone and George Roussos who were cornerstones of early 60s Marvel work. I never thought I'd see a through-like like that in a 1981 Thor comic....
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Oct 26, 2017 05:28
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GPTribefan posted:This blows my mind that this was in 1981. I associate Leonardi with the late 80's/early 90's and he's being inked and colored by Chic Stone and George Roussos who were cornerstones of early 60s Marvel work. I never thought I'd see a through-like like that in a 1981 Thor comic.... Yeah, his name jumped out at me because there was some work he did here and there on regular Spider-Man that I liked in the DeFalco/Stern era including one issue that was featured in my well-worn Alien Costume Saga* TPB, and then later on was the artist who made Spider-Man 2099 what it was. You can definitely tell in that Thor issue that it was his early work, though. That splash page is a blast but throughout the issue his faces on people leave a lot to be desired. *That trade is out of print but to my surprise I was in the book store the other day they now have a two-volume version of the Alien Costume Saga! Lobok fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Oct 26, 2017 |
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Oct 26, 2017 14:14
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Rick Leonardi is one of the all time greatest Spider-man artists. Amusingly his finest Spider work was done on Spider-man 2099 and not the "proper" Spider-man.
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Oct 26, 2017 16:58
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He also apparently had some kind of hand in co-creating the symbiote costume, but since Mike Zeck had already created the Julia Carpenter Spider-Woman costume then at most his contribution couldn't have been more than "make the mouth and limbs black, too."
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Oct 26, 2017 17:15
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Did not know Moebius did Marvel stuff! Sounds pretty drat awesome. Written by Stan Lee himself. http://marvel1980s.blogspot.ca/2011/01/1988-silver-surfer-parable.html?m=1 Holy jumping! And the whole thing is on Marvel Unlimited!
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Oct 27, 2017 02:30
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Lobok posted:Did not know Moebius did Marvel stuff! I'm in awe of this page: 
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Oct 27, 2017 03:35
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Lobok posted:Did not know Moebius did Marvel stuff! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miOpmWYLp-k (This scene was almost certainly written by Quentin Tarantino, working as an uncredited by very well compensated script doctor)
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Oct 27, 2017 05:56
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FMguru posted:The relative merits of Moebius' Silver Surfer was the subject of a fight that Denzel Washington had to adjudicate in the 1995 submarine thriller CRIMSON TIDE I do remember that scene. Once I finish the mini-series I will watch it again.
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Lobok posted:Did not know Moebius did Marvel stuff! Moebius also did a series of posters for Marvel around when this comic was originally published        It would be cool to have had these become a full comic, looks to be a post-apocalyptic superhero science fantasy
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