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How is Exist Archive? Reviews seem mixed.
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Speaking of incredibly boring games by Tri-Ace...
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Oct 11, 2017 17:33
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Getsuya posted:How is Exist Archive? Reviews seem mixed. It is really not good. It's like Valkyrie Profile Done Wrong.
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Oct 11, 2017 17:36
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Getsuya posted:How is Exist Archive? Reviews seem mixed. Very bad. I don't know how they could be 'mixed' unless they were really, really trying to like it.
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Oct 11, 2017 17:41
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Renoistic posted:I don't know about the earlier games, but Persona 3, 4, 5 and Catherine all have terrible gay and/or trans jokes. persona 1 doesn't really spare any time to have those kinds of jokes and persona 2 has like, one very obscure side npc that might come off kind of weird but still much less hateful than anything in the later ones, and it's also a game where you can be openly gay for your best friend and it's not even, like, a joke, and nobody gets creeped out or makes fun of it, in fact persona 2 is a lot more chill about people in general. i think it's different lead staff so the guy directing the games persona 3-onwards is just really weird about that stuff The Colonel fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 17:42
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Getsuya posted:http://www.siliconera.com/2017/10/11/star-ocean-last-hope-4k-full-hd-remaster-announced-ps4-pc/ A new generation gets to experience the joys of criminally stupid party member AI and late game enemies that can not only stunlock you, but require counters(?) to damage effectively and you have to beat several waves of them the first time you meet them. 
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Oct 11, 2017 18:21
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Getsuya posted:http://www.siliconera.com/2017/10/11/star-ocean-last-hope-4k-full-hd-remaster-announced-ps4-pc/ They missed a golden opportunity to call it the Star Ocean 4Kay Edition
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Oct 11, 2017 18:25
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Who exactly do they expect to care or buy this, I say, like someone who isn't a dumbshit who bought Star Ocean 5.
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Oct 11, 2017 18:28
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Perona 4's moral lesson is "Be true to yourself and love yourself and your individuality regardless of what the world thinks of you or expects of you (As long as you ultimately grow up and become a good normal person and fall in line with what is expected of you)." and they cut a gay romance from the game super late (late enough that there's English VA for the romance option) and the only queer people in P3-5 are there to be predatory and gross and a punchline or 'OH no you were just confused about yourself." Persona 2 lets the protag be gay and thats actually acknowledged and respected by the other party members and changes how they interact with the protag throughout the rest of the game. What Im saying is the writers and director of P3-P5 are massive loving cowards making games about rebellion and self love/understanding and expression and also really really afraid of queer people so they suck. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 18:40
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persona 4 is about how everyone has depth and nobody is simple and two dimensional and also fat people are ugly and stupid and selfish, we should all laugh at them
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Oct 11, 2017 18:56
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Being fat in Japan is the Worst Thing because it’s treated like a disease which makes it okay for people to say ‘Oh dear you appear to be really fat’ in the same tone and spirit as saying ‘oh dear you appear to have a cold’
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Oct 11, 2017 19:22
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Oct 11, 2017 19:28
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i guess that explains why persona 4 is so lovely about it but it doesn't make it any less awful that it's like that when persona 2 has an entire character who has the guy she likes tell her he loves her for the person she is and that he doesn't want to see her hurt herself just so she can lose weight and look "normal" i don't want to constantly bring up persona 2 here but it's always really frustrating to me that persona 2 does all these things so much better than the later games, i love persona 4 but that stuff just makes it feel a lot more mean-spirited
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Oct 11, 2017 19:28
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Remember at the end of the eighth dungeon in Persona 5 where one character who'd just sacrificed himself for the party turns up battered but okay and his grieving friends walk over and just beat the poo poo out of him for no reason There's so much bewilderingly juvenile poo poo in those games and it really clashes with the messages they try to impart.
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Oct 11, 2017 19:32
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Getsuya posted:http://www.siliconera.com/2017/10/11/star-ocean-last-hope-4k-full-hd-remaster-announced-ps4-pc/ Tri-Ace please port over Valkyrie Profile 2 No one wanted SO4 
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Oct 11, 2017 19:38
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Tri-Ace please port over Valkyrie Profile 2 Considering VP2 is this insane hacked together monstrosity that barely runs on a PS2 I wouldn't be surprised if porting it was a task not remotely likely worth the effort.
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Oct 11, 2017 19:39
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mash together valkyrie profile 2 with red dead redemption and hope that both games somehow untangle each other's code
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Oct 11, 2017 19:40
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Getsuya posted:How is Exist Archive? Reviews seem mixed. I beat Star Ocean V, I couldn't play Exist Archive for more than a couple of hours
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Oct 11, 2017 19:43
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yeah, persona 4/5 aren't well written. I feel persona 4 is particularly rushed. didn't it come out pretty soon after p3?
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Oct 11, 2017 20:03
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i would had friendzone'd yosuke tbh.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:03
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The Colonel posted:i guess that explains why persona 4 is so lovely about it but it doesn't make it any less awful that it's like that when persona 2 has an entire character who has the guy she likes tell her he loves her for the person she is and that he doesn't want to see her hurt herself just so she can lose weight and look "normal" So would you say the Persona 2s are must-play? I’ve thought several times about getting them on my Vita but I was never sure if they were worth it.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:07
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Oxxidation posted:Remember at the end of the eighth dungeon in Persona 5 where one character who'd just sacrificed himself for the party turns up battered but okay and his grieving friends walk over and just beat the poo poo out of him for no reason it was his last surprise
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Oct 11, 2017 20:10
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Getsuya posted:So would you say the Persona 2s are must-play? I’ve thought several times about getting them on my Vita but I was never sure if they were worth it. persona 2 is absolutely tedious to play, but if you can deal with the aggravatingly slow combat the character writing across both games is fantastic and they hit a really cool tone
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Oct 11, 2017 20:17
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Getsuya posted:http://www.siliconera.com/2017/10/11/star-ocean-last-hope-4k-full-hd-remaster-announced-ps4-pc/ I, too, will enjoy taking a nap with an emotionally stunted 15 year old in 4k.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:23
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can't wait too buy edge maverick for the 3rd time in hopes that this time may be what convinces tri-ace to port radiata stories 
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Oct 11, 2017 20:33
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I think I had SO4 at some point and I got bored of it long before I met the little girl.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:33
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tenderjerk posted:can't wait too buy edge maverick for the 3rd time in hopes that this time may be what convinces tri-ace to port radiata stories Give it a fast forward feature and make save points more plentiful and I'm sold.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:34
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The Colonel posted:persona 2 is absolutely tedious to play, but if you can deal with the aggravatingly slow combat the character writing across both games is fantastic and they hit a really cool tone I have a pretty good tolerance for tedium if a good story is involved. I mean Wheel of Time is one of my favorite book series.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:39
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Oct 11, 2017 20:40
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The Colonel posted:persona 2 is absolutely tedious to play, but if you can deal with the aggravatingly slow combat the character writing across both games is fantastic and they hit a really cool tone
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Oct 11, 2017 20:40
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I bet the people who made P5 vote for Abe all the time.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:00
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Next I would like an HD remake of the Star Ocean 3 tabletop RPG, please. Thanks in advance Tri-Ace.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:42
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P2's battles might be really slow but at least the music's p good (IS at least, haven't played EP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX1ZqSmxRe0
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Oct 11, 2017 22:02
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Getsuya posted:Next I would like an HD remake of the Star Ocean 3 tabletop RPG, please. Thanks in advance Tri-Ace. the the what?
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Oct 11, 2017 22:03
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Golden Battler posted:the https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/47...9YVL&ref=plSrch It’s card-based and can somehow be played solo as well as with a group. According to the lone review it is pretty much just a combat system that recreates the one in the game fairly well so I have to assume it has MP death and can be broken with Side Kick.
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Oct 11, 2017 22:12
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The Colonel posted:persona 4 is about how everyone has depth and nobody is simple and two dimensional and also fat people are ugly and stupid and selfish, we should all laugh at them That and real happiness is being true to yourself and doing the poo poo everyone expects of you that you hate because really actually it is quite fulfilling and you're totally doing it on your own terms and not just because its expected of you and not doing it seems difficult. Rise and Yukiko suck is what I'm saying.
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Oct 11, 2017 22:22
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Overminty posted:P2's battles might be really slow but at least the music's p good (IS at least, haven't played EP) Totally, this is one of the reasons why the Innocent Sin pack is the only DLC I've bought for P5 so far. EP's music is just as good as IS with a handful of (subjective) trade-offs. IS has the better standard battle theme, EP has the better boss theme, etc.
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Oct 11, 2017 22:28
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Jim Barris posted:Kanjis subplot in P4 gives off a lot of mixed messages. On the one hand the basic message of it is "be yourself, cause living a lie will make you miserable" otoh there's a lot of "ew gays!" Jokes made and the characters making them never get their come-up-ance or even questioned about it. It's kind of bizarre. I'm kinda torn on this because I feel like Yusuke is the source of most of the game's homophobia and he is absolutely portrayed as a callous dipshit teenage boy, and the game gives you the option to freak him out on purpose by doing stuff like being excited (or feigning excitement) about Miss Yasogami That poo poo in P5, however marginal, was just real dumb and in poor taste tho. It's not nearly pervasive enough to ruin the game and there's also some counter-examples (like the bartender in the Devil S Link, who's portrayed as a wise, friendly, and upright adult in a game with a lot of poo poo ones), but it undermines the game's anarchist vibe and I hope the next one doesn't pull that poo poo again Baku fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 22:31
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:That and real happiness is being true to yourself and doing the poo poo everyone expects of you that you hate because really actually it is quite fulfilling and you're totally doing it on your own terms and not just because its expected of you and not doing it seems difficult. Yukiko, however, is a weird plot point. I can kind of get the idea, that she does love her family and the inn, but that doesn't mean she has to take it over? Like, what did Yukiko even want to do outside of the inn? I guess that's meant to prove that she really does want to run the inn but it just makes her seem shallow. wizard on a water slide posted:I'm kinda torn on this because I feel like Yusuke is the source of most of the game's homophobia and he is absolutely portrayed as a callous dipshit teenage boy, and the game gives you the option to freak him out on purpose by doing stuff like being excited (or feigning excitement) about Miss Yasogami Also, P5's writing sucks poo poo for a variety of reasons. This game has both the line 'we hate the cops' and a character whose arc ends with her wanting to become a cop even after literally 80% of the problems in her and her friends' lives were caused by the government. Also one of the villains is a guy who runs a restaurant chain and sees all his workers as disposable machines, and there's news reports saying that several people have died from overwork at his restaurants. When the party defeats him, they act like taking him out was a mistake, because they only did it because the public wanted them to, not because he was actually someone who needed to be defeated. Even though he was overworking his employees to the point of death with no remorse. What. Endorph fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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persona 4 and 5 are basically centrism: the video game 'some people might be gay, maybe, and i guess that doesnt make them inhuman monsters, but whew, its a good thing your buddy kanji isnt gay' 'some people might be trans, maybe, but naoto definitely DEFINITELY DEFINITELY isnt trans now let's put her in a schoolgirl outfit and gently caress her' 'the government might be bad, maybe, but really its just this one guy and we arent actually enacting sweeping political reform' 'capitalism is sort of problematic, buuuuuuut hey look a beach scene' 'the youth are oppressed by adults, that's why we, adults, are making a video game where gay people are at best comic relief with ten lines and at worst literal child rapists. a gay youth might play this game aimed at teenage boys? sounds fake.' 'its bad when adults sexualize kids. also, do you want to gently caress your sexy teacher, teenage boys.'
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