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fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

business hammocks posted:

People with production skills or who know about budgets seem exempt from this.

Unfortunately there are plenty of assholes with video production skills.

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revwinnebago
Oct 4, 2017

Glazier posted:

gently caress you, HBomb is a goddamn saint

He sucks, it's just that he happens to be right on some things, such as Sherlock being a really terrible show especially after Season 1. A classic case was in his "questions for anti-SJWs" video when he keeps asking "what is it with you people and skulls".

Internet drama nobody cares about highlighting how dumb this is do not read: HBomb was making fun of a disabled person, which he'd normally be all over someone for but because that disabled person was on the other side it's okay for him to do. Bane666 has a speech impediment so he hid behind an animated skull and text-to-speech generator until he felt confident enough to start using his real voice on videos. Other people in the community had taken up this imagery, basically saying they were either supporting Bane or they too were too afraid to show their own faces but wanted to demonstrate solidarity. HBomb is also blind to the fact that his circle of friends includes "Shaun and Jen", who also hide behind a skull icon. His level of thinking on any issue goes about that deep. It's wrong when you people do it, but my side are always justified.

nickmeister posted:

TAA is a coward willing to change his opinions to satisfy his audience's likes and dislikes. I remember in a 2013, TAA rightfully called out Cult of Dusty for his sexist bullshit (it was in a 3 hour long QA video he did on "TJ Does Life" channel, so I'm not finding it myself). But a year and a half later when he gets the chance to have Dusty come on his Drunken Peasants show, suddenly they're good friends.

I get what your'e going for, but calling someone out for having lovely beliefs and then becoming friends a year and a half later isn't a crazy thing to happen in life. I assume the implication is that Dusty is still a piece of poo poo today and hasn't relented in his beliefs, which is probably true, but as posted you haven't really made a case. gently caress if I'm going to look at Dusty videos to see how he's doing. I'm sure he's still pushing his ponzi scheme porn rings.

Reveilled posted:

Imagine instead of Sargon and Thunderf00t being the poster manchildren of the internet rationalists, it was someone who followed up the anti-creationist stuff with "so next let's learn about the man who coined the phrase 'Religion is the opium of the people', Karl Marx".

I think you're looking for


I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

revwinnebago posted:

He sucks, it's just that he happens to be right on some things, such as Sherlock being a really terrible show especially after Season 1. A classic case was in his "questions for anti-SJWs" video when he keeps asking "what is it with you people and skulls".

Internet drama nobody cares about highlighting how dumb this is do not read: HBomb was making fun of a disabled person, which he'd normally be all over someone for but because that disabled person was on the other side it's okay for him to do. Bane666 has a speech impediment so he hid behind an animated skull and text-to-speech generator until he felt confident enough to start using his real voice on videos. Other people in the community had taken up this imagery, basically saying they were either supporting Bane or they too were too afraid to show their own faces but wanted to demonstrate solidarity. HBomb is also blind to the fact that his circle of friends includes "Shaun and Jen", who also hide behind a skull icon. His level of thinking on any issue goes about that deep. It's wrong when you people do it, but my side are always justified.

There's nothing de facto bad about skulls, but they're a stupidly common trope among reactos, who are generally deadly serious about using them to appear cool. This is worth pointing out and does not implicate Shaun.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

see also: the dark enlightenment guys

selec
Sep 6, 2003

revwinnebago posted:

Bane666 has a speech impediment so he hid behind an animated skull and text-to-speech generator until he felt confident enough to start using his real voice on videos. Other people in the community had taken up this imagery, basically saying they were either supporting Bane or they too were too afraid to show their own faces but wanted to demonstrate solidarity.

I think you might be suffering from internet poisoning because you give a poo poo about somebody on youtube named Bane666 who has playlists titled things like "The propaganda of toxic feminism".

Those chuds need to be made fun of for every loving thing they do until they understand and have fully internalized that they are ignorant goddamn dipshits.

Also, dipshits like skulls because they're METALLLLLL not because suddenly a bunch of empathy-incapable morons decided to show solidarity or something. You are loving stupid if you believe a penny ante explanation like this, and should probably stop posting until you figure out where you went wrong.

edit:

Also, being Australian (bane666's disability) isn't anything to be ashamed of

selec fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Oct 11, 2017

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

revwinnebago posted:

He sucks, it's just that he happens to be right on some things, such as Sherlock being a really terrible show especially after Season 1. A classic case was in his "questions for anti-SJWs" video when he keeps asking "what is it with you people and skulls".

Internet drama nobody cares about highlighting how dumb this is do not read: HBomb was making fun of a disabled person, which he'd normally be all over someone for but because that disabled person was on the other side it's okay for him to do. Bane666 has a speech impediment so he hid behind an animated skull and text-to-speech generator until he felt confident enough to start using his real voice on videos. Other people in the community had taken up this imagery, basically saying they were either supporting Bane or they too were too afraid to show their own faces but wanted to demonstrate solidarity. HBomb is also blind to the fact that his circle of friends includes "Shaun and Jen", who also hide behind a skull icon. His level of thinking on any issue goes about that deep. It's wrong when you people do it, but my side are always justified.

Except I don't think Hbomb ever once made fun of that dude for his speech impediment? He made fun of people for using skull iconography to represent themselves, something that is dumb and childish and quite worthy of mockery (nevermind that all the people using skull symbols were awful garbage humans).

Shaun uses a skull icon explicitly as a reference to that fad among Nazi/MRA weirdos, with the joke being that he's doing it while being actually pretty reasonable as opposed to a raving dickhead.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Disagree, hbomberguy has a pathological hatred of disabled people. He regularly uses the disabled toilet (and doesn't wipe the seat after peeing all over it) and only ever parks in disabled parking spaces...sideways.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Have we found the answer to that Mitchell and Webb sketch, at long last? Were the SS only using skull iconography in solidarity with unfairly maligned youtube user bane666?

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

Glazier posted:

gently caress you, HBomb is a goddamn saint

He was also a part of Metokur and is a holder of Bad Opinions On Star Wars. Also there was a kerfuffle with him and a trans person, I believe? There was a big drama post and he replied to it but my eyes kinda glazed over after the 2nd sentence.

But for real. While I disagree on his politics, Hbomb is still good for making fun of the Rationals.


business hammocks posted:

People with production skills or who know about budgets seem exempt from this.

What about Jontron?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

AttitudeAdjuster posted:

That's as maybe but he also thinks the Star Wars prequels are good films.

https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/917431654133706752

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

AttitudeAdjuster posted:

That's as maybe but he also thinks the Star Wars prequels are good films.

This is probably what kept him from joining the CHUD brigade in the first place. "First they came for the star wars prequels, and I did speak out because gently caress you pod racing is awesome!"


Shaun is one of those people where I automatically read all of his writing in his voice. Bless you, Mr. Andjen.

revwinnebago
Oct 4, 2017

Genocyber posted:

Except I don't think Hbomb ever once made fun of that dude for his speech impediment? He made fun of people for using skull iconography to represent themselves, something that is dumb and childish and quite worthy of mockery (nevermind that all the people using skull symbols were awful garbage humans).

Shaun uses a skull icon explicitly as a reference to that fad among Nazi/MRA weirdos, with the joke being that he's doing it while being actually pretty reasonable as opposed to a raving dickhead.

Would he/they accept that argument if it was turned around? They bust on people all the time saying that their valid criticism is just a code word for (insert an -ism). But if HBomb wants to make fun of a person with a handicap, well we know his motives are pure, so we don't have to suspect him. I'm not saying I agree with either side this is all dumb internet drama, but you can't pretend the guy abides by his own standards.

If you look closely, you might be able to tell that Bane's avatar was satire to begin with:


I've entirely quit following the YouTube drama at this point I just happen to have a reservoir from a period of trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

revwinnebago posted:

Would he/they accept that argument if it was turned around? They bust on people all the time saying that their valid criticism is just a code word for (insert an -ism). But if HBomb wants to make fun of a person with a handicap, well we know his motives are pure, so we don't have to suspect him. I'm not saying I agree with either side this is all dumb internet drama, but you can't pretend the guy abides by his own standards.

If you look closely, you might be able to tell that Bane's avatar was satire to begin with:


I've entirely quit following the YouTube drama at this point I just happen to have a reservoir from a period of trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

Are you claiming that hbomb made fun of a chud for having a speech impediment or that he made fun of a chud who had a speech impediment? Disability isn't a blanket protection from the criticism of one's beliefs or actions.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

revwinnebago posted:

Would he/they accept that argument if it was turned around? They bust on people all the time saying that their valid criticism is just a code word for (insert an -ism).


You may not have noticed, but right-wingers try to do exactly what you're describing all the time, and it always falls flat, because those accusations are not made in good faith.

That's the big difference: when somebody says a right-winger is being racist/sexist/stupid, most of the time they are making that critique in good faith: that they honestly believe that the person is doing what they're being accused of, and that it's a bad thing.

Now compare that with when a right-wing youtuber or twitter star tries to accuse a left-wing person of sexism/racism/whatever. It's usually done with a smug OH I GOT THESE LIBTARDS NOW attitude that isn't lost on anyone. And it's in bad faith, because nobody actually believes the accuser thinks that sexism or racism is bad, they understand it's just a rhetorical jab that is being made in bad faith.

I take arguments that right wingers make about ludicrous poo poo like white genocide much more seriously, because you can tell that even if they're ridiculous idiots, they actually believe what they're saying. They don't believe/don't care that a rhetorical opponent may or may not be racist, because they don't care about racism. They hate the target, not the racism, which is why this poo poo never really works unless a left-wing person is also making the accusation, because it's actually a true or at least debateable thing.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
also known as "so much for the tolerant left"

selec
Sep 6, 2003

boner confessor posted:

also known as "so much for the tolerant left"

Yeah, exactly. It's such a cliche' that we have a tired-rear end joke about it.

If you want to credibly criticize racist or sexist behavior, you have to have given at least a modicum of an impression that you gave a poo poo about these issues generally before you decided to start swinging that axe.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Both hbomb and Shaun are good and I'd happily buy them both a pint.

I quite like Thom Avella as well, their critique of PJW's dumb POPULER CULCHA video was excellent. (Also yes gently caress Hopsin, Hopsin bad).

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

revwinnebago posted:

Would he/they accept that argument if it was turned around? They bust on people all the time saying that their valid criticism is just a code word for (insert an -ism). But if HBomb wants to make fun of a person with a handicap, well we know his motives are pure, so we don't have to suspect him. I'm not saying I agree with either side this is all dumb internet drama, but you can't pretend the guy abides by his own standards.

This has already been asked, but it bears repeating until you answer it: when did HBomb ever make fun of this bane guy? This is the first time I've ever heard of him, and I think I've seen all of Harris' drama videos. And as a more general rule, people with disabilities are not beyond reproach, it's just lovely to make fun of them for their disability. Going after someone like Charles Krauthammer for his insatiable bloodlust is okay, going after Krauthammer for being wheelchair-bound is not.

So, to recap:
-Making fun of a disabled person for being disabled: bad
-Making fun of a disabled person for having bad opinions or using a skull avatar or thinking "Bane666" is a good username: fine
-Making fun of someone who isn't disabled for doing something stupid that was also done by a disabled person who you might not even know about : :confused:

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

ClancyEverafter posted:

Yeah, exactly. It's such a cliche' that we have a tired-rear end joke about it.

If you want to credibly criticize racist or sexist behavior, you have to have given at least a modicum of an impression that you gave a poo poo about these issues generally before you decided to start swinging that axe.

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/917909710195515393

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Isn't that the weeb who pretends to be a Japanese Housewife.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

SteelMentor posted:

Isn't that the weeb who pretends to be a Japanese Housewife.

no thats joss whedon in the pic, and as for the twitter person i have no idea who that is except they're a big idiot and probably permamad about women on the internet

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

boner confessor posted:

no thats joss whedon in the pic, and as for the twitter person i have no idea who that is except they're a big idiot and probably permamad about women on the internet

Yeah I meant the Twitter-idiot. Pretty sure they're some neckbeard who pretends to be a Japanese woman, they were a huge gater from what I remember.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

boner confessor posted:

no thats joss whedon in the pic, and as for the twitter person i have no idea who that is except they're a big idiot and probably permamad about women on the internet

Their pinned tweet:
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/823421396273369088

quote:

In late 2014, “GamerGate”, an ideological and cultural conflict within the gaming community, made 4chan inhospitable. I migrated to 8chan and started to take interest in the events surrounding GamerGate.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

And is still to this day begging for attention by banging the GG drum, yes.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
it always feels good to have your gut reaction stereotypes confirmed

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

For context 8chan is like a cross between Reddit (boards are user-created and moderated) and 4chan whose most active board is its /pol/ equivalent. Also had to swap urls and got delisted from Google for child porn.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
In non loser neckbeard news, the dude behind the excellent 'Angry Jack' examination of GG has started a new series talking about the rhetorical devices the Alt-Right CHUDS like to exploit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xGawJIseNY

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻




I know judging people by looks is a bad thing, but they look like an Oblivion character.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Motto posted:

For context 8chan is like a cross between Reddit (boards are user-created and moderated) and 4chan whose most active board is its /pol/ equivalent. Also had to swap urls and got delisted from Google for child porn.

It's owner fled to some bumfuck 3rd world country to escape the feds just before the kiddy porn was exposed by actual good person Dan O/Foldable Human (which then led the CHUDs to try and accuse Dan O of being a pedo because something something I am rubber you are glue something something).

According to some investigative types those boards are still loving there on the servers, just not listed on the front page as it were.

What is it with Nazis and loving kids.

Falstaff
Apr 27, 2008

I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

AttitudeAdjuster posted:

That's as maybe but he also thinks the Star Wars prequels are good films.

Truly, history's greatest monster.

revwinnebago posted:

If you look closely, you might be able to tell that Bane's avatar was satire to begin with:


What is this satirizing?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The Kool Aid man's lack of an actual skeletal system while still having a mouth and eyes. He's like some sort of nematode.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Falstaff posted:

What is this satirizing?

Jonestown

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
What is Laci Green's politics? There is a subgroup of people that never really state their opinion but hover around the alt-right like Boogie or h3h3 ( I guess Fantano now too).

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Isnt she just plain old transphobic?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
The only bad thing about hBomberguy is that he's somehow convinced himself that the characters in the Star Wars prequels are simple too deep and complex for general audiences to fully appreciate, which made me laugh out loud.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Who What Now posted:

The only bad thing about hBomberguy is that he's somehow convinced himself that the characters in the Star Wars prequels are simple too deep and complex for general audiences to fully appreciate, which made me laugh out loud.

That and he likes Dark Souls 2.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
He's actually right that Dark Souls 2 is good and any nerds pretending it's worse than a thousand Hitler manifest in video game form are idiots and almost certainly smell awful.

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

I don't get it... is Joss Whedon also a sexual predator? Or is this a reference to Dollhouse?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Who What Now posted:

He's actually right that Dark Souls 2 is good and any nerds pretending it's worse than a thousand Hitler manifest in video game form are idiots and almost certainly smell awful.

:yeah:

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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

fallenturtle posted:

I don't get it... is Joss Whedon also a sexual predator? Or is this a reference to Dollhouse?

joss whedon used his cred as a male feminist to repeatedly cheat on his wife. he's definitely a sexual predator, at best he's not an outright rapist or assaulter but he used his position of power to have sex with many women while married which is, charitably, extremely disturbing and sleazy behavior

why anita sarkeesian specifically needs to denounce him, is a mystery that only internet nazis can answer

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