Warhammer 40,000: 8th Time's the Charm

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a cock shaped fruit: Aug 23, 2010; The true enemy of humanity is disorder.

Alternate shoulders and a hooded head:

# ? Oct 11, 2017 12:33

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# ? May 30, 2024 21:17

Attestant: Oct 23, 2012; Don't judge me.

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

The best/worst modern example of this is still skitarii. Squad of 10 can take 3 special weapons. Therefore, in a box of 10 models...one of each special weapon.

chutche2 posted:

Scions too, 2 for 5 and 4 for 10, you get 1 per 5 in the box.

Genestealer Cult neophytes and acolytes too. 1 of each special weapon in the box.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 12:35

Zark the Damned: Mar 9, 2013

GW have always been lovely for not putting all the special weapon options in boxes. Cadians get Flamers and Grenade Launchers with no Plasma or Melta. Hell, until the recent(ish) recuts, Tac Squads only had Flamers and not the others. At least with Scions and Skittari you get all the options, just not enough of them.

I guess the idea is that you'll get several squads and then swap the bits around but GW still doesn't realise there's usually a 'best' option like giving all of them plasmas.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 12:38

hexa: Dec 10, 2004; And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

If I want to take a Sonic Dreadnought in a CSM list, does that count as an Elite or do I have to take an Auxilliary Detachment and field it that way?

# ? Oct 11, 2017 13:04

Tiger Millionaire: Jan 25, 2014; He'll eat your kids and fire your parents!

The lack of special weapons is annoying but vaguely understandable as they are optional squad additions. But each plague marine can either have a bolt gun or 2x knives base, to be shooty or choppy.

This is more like if a box of 11 boyz only came with 4 choppas and 8 shootas.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 13:22

Living Image: Apr 24, 2010; HORSE'S ASS

glitchkrieg posted:

If I want to take a Sonic Dreadnought in a CSM list, does that count as an Elite or do I have to take an Auxilliary Detachment and field it that way?

Where is it from?

# ? Oct 11, 2017 13:28

Artum: Feb 13, 2012; DUN da dun dun da DUUUN; Soiled Meat

Thats the core of my bigbois painted up then, feels good.

Now for support characters, the redemptor, reivers, terminators and a bunch of tanks.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 13:45

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

glitchkrieg posted:

If I want to take a Sonic Dreadnought in a CSM list, does that count as an Elite or do I have to take an Auxilliary Detachment and field it that way?

Sonic Dreadnoughts are just Helbrutes now with different weapons. They covered this in the Forgeworld Chaos Index FAQ:

Games Workshop posted:

Q: There is no datasheet for an Emperor�s Children Sonic
Dreadnought � is there a datasheet I should use for this model?

A: Use the Helbrute datasheet on page 33 of Index:
Chaos. It must replace its <Mark of Chaos> keyword
with Slaanesh, it must replace its <Legion> keyword
with Emperor�s Children, and it has two additional
wargear options; it may take a doom siren, and it may
replace its multi-melta with two blastmasters.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 14:28

Zasze: Apr 29, 2009

Starting to get back into 8th and dug out my cacharadons army, for chapter rules how much push back do you think I would get if i tried to use the black templars re-roll charges rules with them?

# ? Oct 11, 2017 14:43

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

Zasze posted:

Starting to get back into 8th and dug out my cacharadons army, for chapter rules how much push back do you think I would get if i tried to use the black templars re-roll charges rules with them?

None until they get their own rules and as long as you follow the other Black Templar rules.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 14:44

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

None at all besides the groggiest of neckbeards, they don't have anything right now and it's unlikely FW's gonna release an update for them anytime soon. Go nuts, Space Sharks own.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 14:44

Floppychop: Mar 30, 2012

Zasze posted:

Starting to get back into 8th and dug out my cacharadons army, for chapter rules how much push back do you think I would get if i tried to use the black templars re-roll charges rules with them?

Just keep in mind you can't use Librarians if you choose to use Black Templars rules.

Carcharadons are also most likely a Raven Guard successor and the Raven Guard rules are solid.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 15:03

hexa: Dec 10, 2004; And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

TheChirurgeon posted:

Sonic Dreadnoughts are just Helbrutes now with different weapons. They covered this in the Forgeworld Chaos Index FAQ:

Awesome, thanks for the clarification. This makes my CSM list a lot easier to manage, and therefore makes my painting order more straight forward!

# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:04

chutche2: Jul 3, 2010; CUPOLA MY BALLS

Putting cadian grenade launchers underslung on bolt rifles: Keep the drum or cut it off?

# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:10

Broken Record Talk: Jul 28, 2009; A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

chutche2 posted:

Putting cadian grenade launchers underslung on bolt rifles: Keep the drum or cut it off?

Keep

# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:25

Giant Isopod: Jan 30, 2010; Bathynomus giganteus; Yams Fan

a cock shaped fruit posted:

Alternate shoulders and a hooded head:

Also looking good!

If you used different head/shoulders for the different sister unit types they'd have more differentiation than the original models too!

It looks like so much effort when if I just wait around a while I'm sure we'll get plastic ... haha j/k I'm probably going to copy the poo poo out of this.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:29

TheArmorOfContempt: Nov 29, 2012; Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?

Artum posted:

Thats the core of my bigbois painted up then, feels good.

Now for support characters, the redemptor, reivers, terminators and a bunch of tanks.

You going to Adepticon? We should have a big Ultramarines throwdown.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:31

Artum: Feb 13, 2012; DUN da dun dun da DUUUN; Soiled Meat

Uroboros posted:

You going to Adepticon? We should have a big Ultramarines throwdown.

That sounds like a cracking idea and I'll have to look into it.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 16:46

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

Lord Windy posted:

How do you guys find modellers who do models similar to 40k? I'm going to do Genestealers + Tyranids and I want to see what options I have.

The problem is that, while the tyranids are hardly an original concept, they have a pretty defined aesthetic and I don't think I've really seen any good not!-genestealers on any third-party sites.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 17:05

Artum: Feb 13, 2012; DUN da dun dun da DUUUN; Soiled Meat

Loads of people have painted up tyranids to look like Xenomorphs but has anyone done the reverse and painted a xenomorph mini like a classic 'stealer?

# ? Oct 11, 2017 17:13

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

chutche2 posted:

Putting cadian grenade launchers underslung on bolt rifles: Keep the drum or cut it off?

Keep.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 17:58

ijyt: Apr 10, 2012

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:54

Broken Record Talk: Jul 28, 2009; A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

That's sick.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:55

Safety Factor: Oct 31, 2009; Grimey Drawer

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:55

TKIY: Nov 6, 2012; Grimey Drawer

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

I'd buy that for a dollar!

# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:56

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

It looks like the Scorpion from Halo

# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:57

chutche2: Jul 3, 2010; CUPOLA MY BALLS

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Keep.

That looks pretty great.

I cut the drum off one of them to see how it works and it's pretty decent, but that looks amazing and I'll keep it on the rest.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 18:57

BULBASAUR: Apr 6, 2009; Soiled Meat

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

Clearly a photoshop of the plastic sicaran

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:01

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

"So what if we took a Sicaran, but made it bigger and gave it skids".

"Genius Archmagos, I'll warm up the building-gimps".

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:02

Pendent: Nov 16, 2011; The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius; Grimey Drawer

I have to say, when I think of the gigantic, gaping holes in the Primaris range a super heavy is not a place my brain would have ever gone.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:09

Mango Polo: Aug 4, 2007

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

I've never been a fan of the marine vehicles, everything's ranged from dogshit to plain poo poo. This is great though, I hope it reflects an entire new range that will supplent the current crap eventually.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:09

Broken Record Talk: Jul 28, 2009; A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

Also, I will LOL so hard when DAs can't take the hover tank.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:12

JoshTheStampede: Sep 8, 2004; come at me bro

There's no way that is a kit. That looks like a bigass kitbash of a Sicaran, a Repulsor, and a Fire Raptor.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:12

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

I'm wondering two things.

What the gently caress is that giant wedge in the middle, transport hold?

What's that word cut off at the top of the page? Board? Are getting yet another new board?

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:13

JoshTheStampede: Sep 8, 2004; come at me bro

SteelMentor posted:

I'm wondering two things.

What the gently caress is that giant wedge in the middle, transport hold?

What's that word cut off at the top of the page? Board? Are getting yet another new board?

Book.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:13

Broken Record Talk: Jul 28, 2009; A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

JoshTheStampede posted:

There's no way that is a kit. That looks like a bigass kitbash of a Sicaran, a Repulsor, and a Fire Raptor.

Don't forget the Mastadon body.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:14

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

JoshTheStampede posted:

Book.

Ah, makes sense. Eyes scanned the second 'o' as an 'a'. Guess this is the next Imperial Armour? Would explain the extended delay if they're jamming in some new Primaris stuff alongside Ad Mech/T'au.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:17

Karl Rove: Feb 26, 2006; Oh man, the Elders are really lovely guys. Their astral projection seminars are literally off the fucking planet, and highly recommended.

Apologies in advance if I missed a big headache-inducing discussion about it earlier in the thread, but the weird legacy rule for Index vs. Codex has me sort of confused. The Warhammer Community FAQ says this:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/codexes-your-questions-answered-july-5gw-homepage-post-2/ posted:

There are a few options that are missing in the codex that appear in the index: why is that? Does that mean I can�t use these models in my army anymore?
While the indexes are designed to cover a long history of miniatures, the codexes are designed to give you rules for the current Warhammer 40,000 range. There are a few options in the indexes for some Characters and vehicles that are no longer represented in the Citadel range � certain Dreadnought weapons that don�t come in the box, or some characters on bikes, for example.
Don�t worry though, you can still use all of these in your games if you have these older models. In these instances, use the datasheet from the index, and the most recent points published for that model and its weapons (currently, also in the index).

This has been posted elsewhere to say that I can still take the classic Rifleman loadout for my Grey Knight dreads, but does this also mean you have to go strictly off of the Index's listing (ie if you want to take an Index Grey Knights Dreadnought with two twin autocannons, you're stuck with just Smite) and the old version of Sanctic listed there in the Index? Additionally, by these rules can Grey Knights also still take Index versions of the Librarian (with a Stormshield) or Techmarine (with Conversion Beamer)? More of a macro point, but I also swore we wouldn't need the Index after the Codex came out?

Karl Rove fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Oct 11, 2017

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:18

berzerkmonkey: Jul 23, 2003

ijyt posted:

Here's the latest GI Joe release:

I knew I saved up all those Flag Points for a reason...

That isn't in the October WD - is that from November's issue?

Karl Rove posted:

More of a macro point, but I also swore we wouldn't need the Index after the Codex came out?

You won't need the Index if you're using a "currently produced model." If you're using a legacy model that is no longer sold by GW, you have to use the Index.

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:20

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SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

berzerkmonkey posted:

I knew I saved up all those Flag Points for a reason...

That isn't in the October WD - is that from November's issue?

Looks like it.

Another leak:

# ? Oct 11, 2017 19:22

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