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STD is terrible but so is most modern TV so who am I to judge?
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Oct 11, 2017 21:17
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Peachfart posted:STD is terrible but so is most modern TV so who am I to judge? We are all to judge
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Oct 11, 2017 21:20
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Star Trek is a delicious cake. Some parts are a little dry, some a little underdone, but it's all recognizably cake. Discovery (so far) is a chicken thigh that someone has iced. They did a pretty good job. Some people like it. To them it has a good flavor and a meatiness that they think the cake has been lacking. Some people say they like cake, and they like chicken, and they would gladly eat both separately, but together they're fundamentally wrong. I don't care for chicken thighs. I'm a bit resentful that they might have used the last of the icing.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:21
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I like my pizza / hot dog metaphor (in the bad thread) better because frosted chicken sounds far worse than Discovery but I agree with your sentiment
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Oct 11, 2017 21:23
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STD inspired me to rewatch the Enterprise. Very good first 2 seasons, Crappy post 9/11 Discovery-lite season 3 and surprisingly fun 4th season. Even the Fat Riker wasn't that bad Second time around. Now unto TNG season 1.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:25
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hahahahahahahaha
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Oct 11, 2017 21:33
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Big Mean Jerk posted:
I don't fault you for enjoying the show so far (in fact I'm pretty jealous of this remarkable ability because I haven't been able to consistently enjoy this stupid franchise since right around the time my balls dropped) but I really, really don't know that that's true. Principally, ENT and Voyager were boring and stupid. So far, STD is boring and stupid, except this time with a modern "prestige" TV veneer slathered overtop of the blandness. For me, this propels STD into borderline parody since it's trying so hard to be serious and to be taken seriously that it loops back around to stupid. ENT's third season where they tried to go all 24 In Space gave me the same douche-chills.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:36
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Beachcomber posted:Star Trek is a delicious cake. What flavor cake?
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Oct 11, 2017 21:42
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[quote="“CPColin”" post="“477284281”"] What flavor cake? [/quote] Cellular peptide with mint frosting, duh.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:47
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adhuin posted:STD inspired me to rewatch the Enterprise.  You should check out dates for when ENT first aired. Not sure how anyone could have missed the name Suliban but here we are
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Oct 11, 2017 21:49
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CPColin posted:What flavor cake? At first it was chocolate, but when I looked again it was yellow!
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Oct 11, 2017 22:00
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:
Ent premiered 2 weeks after 9/11, all of that would have been established and filmed months beforehand. He is correct that the 3rd season is when they went all post 9/11, specifically with the Xindi attack at the end of Season 2.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:11
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:
Broken Bow first aired on September 26, 2001. Unless Paramount has one HELL of a turnaround time, I think that's likely a coincidence. e:f,b
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Oct 11, 2017 23:13
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Heck, I remember hearing that the Suliban were supposed to show up in some Voyager episodes, as a thing to reference in the next series to follow. Sort of like how the Maquis turn up in TNG specifically for use in DS9 and Voyager. Also, that they were named after the Taliban, but because it sounded exotic. I mean, people knew who the Taliban were before 2001.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:22
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Sash! posted:Heck, I remember hearing that the Suliban were supposed to show up in some Voyager episodes, as a thing to reference in the next series to follow. Sort of like how the Maquis turn up in TNG specifically for use in DS9 and Voyager. TNG and Voyager are such different entities to me that my brain finds it weird their productions overlapped so much. Like the character of Chakotay existed somewhere on paper while they were pumping out Sub-Rosa. ...okay no now it makes more sense.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:39
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Why did they make the first black woman lead in Star Trek a slave prone to violence with a starship with spinning rims?
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Oct 11, 2017 23:44
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Why did they make the first black woman lead in Star Trek a slave prone to violence with a starship with spinning rims? Slave is a bit strong but she is a convicted criminal who was saved by a white man. And the answer is because there's a difference between progressive executives and executives trying to be progressive but stepping on all sorts of landmines (possibly hidden in corpses by ARE HEROES) because they are not sufficiently woke to even hire and trust people who are.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:50
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I think it's fair to say she's a slave, she has to do this job or go to prison. The captain basically has control of her autonomy
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Oct 11, 2017 23:52
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The guy who plays Lorca was on TV earlier in a different show and I'm one of those people who goes 'Ohhh it's that guy we saw last night on xyz'. Wondering if they're gonna tackle any of the other species in Discovery, Klingons are a bit meh, but the Federation hadn't seen a Romulan or Cardassian at that point had they?
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Oct 11, 2017 23:57
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Why did they make the first black woman lead in Star Trek a slave prone to violence with a starship with spinning rims? lol jfc
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Oct 11, 2017 23:58
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Flipswitch posted:The guy who plays Lorca was on TV earlier in a different show and I'm one of those people who goes 'Ohhh it's that guy we saw last night on xyz'.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:07
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Flipswitch posted:The guy who plays Lorca was on TV earlier in a different show and I'm one of those people who goes 'Ohhh it's that guy we saw last night on xyz'. Romulans no, though they had fought a war with them (but who knows if STD showrunners care to pay attention to that). Cardassians, who knows.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:07
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Gimme some loving Andorians!
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Oct 12, 2017 00:11
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Big Mean Jerk posted:
Like I mentioned in the other thread, watching it as a comedy actually makes it a good show for the most part. I mean that doesn't fix the wonky action but the skip button is right there.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:44
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Gimme some loving Andorians!
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Oct 12, 2017 00:46
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The Andorians on ENT were so loving good I almost hope they don't put them on for fear of what they'll look like and act like. Plus their ships will probably be giant flying koosh balls made of blue Shrek ears or something equally loving stupid.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:49
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FlamingLiberal posted:I hope they put some in this season. They have mentioned both them and the Tellarites but so far they have not been seen. New Andorians will have enormous wigs and RC antennae that occasionally cover the actor's eyes, blinding them in the process. New Tellarites will be literal pigs with dubbed dialogue.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:51
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Big Mean Jerk posted:New Andorians will have enormous wigs and RC antennae that occasionally cover the actor's eyes, blinding them in the process. They'll take it in a new direction, similar to the alternative glimpse of Andorians we got in popular TNG episode "The Offspring"
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Oct 12, 2017 01:06
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FlamingLiberal posted:I hope they put some in this season. They have mentioned both them and the Tellarites but so far they have not been seen.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:22
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The Bloop posted:Plus their ships will probably be giant flying koosh balls made of blue Shrek ears or something equally loving stupid. I'd be fine with adding the Spathi to Star Trek.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:25
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They might put them in the background, they have plenty of weird alien crewmembers. And they've been doing some pretty drat deep continuity cuts, like the Federation logo this week having the Franz Joseph faces.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:26
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Delsaber posted:I'd be fine with adding the Spathi to Star Trek. lol and agreed but just like with the klingons make them a new drat race completely rather than being a known one in name only
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Oct 12, 2017 01:30
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Nessus posted:I don't expect we'd see members of established species other than Vulcans and Klingons. They'd cost money and would probably confuse the narrative (from their perspective). We already have that death guy and Daft Punk Lady.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:30
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FlamingLiberal posted:There have been background aliens that are more complex makeup jobs than either of those species would be to do Background extras and such are entirely possible, of course.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:45
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Big Mean Jerk posted:New Andorians will have enormous wigs and RC antennae that occasionally cover the actor's eyes, blinding them in the process.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:58
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Time's Arrow part II, baby. Mark Twain is publicly blabbing that time travel exists. Why don't I remember him ever saying that.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:54
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   Did these subtitles make an extremely obscure joke
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Oct 12, 2017 02:59
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Shame on you, Mr. Clemens
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Oct 12, 2017 03:11
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Riker: "I just want you to know that I have the utmost respect for the law. *Punches policeman*" This is so good.
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Oct 12, 2017 03:17
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Why did they make the first black woman lead in Star Trek a slave prone to violence with a starship with spinning rims? Telling a bunch of mayo boys in a Trek thread that prison labor is modern slavery? That's bravery my friend. Much respect.
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