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From experience: Accountants are very protective of their old school Windows 2003 physical servers running accounting software built (if you're lucky) in the early 90's. Ours is still Win 2003 but at least I finally managed to retire it's physical essence a few months ago. (It's still sitting behind me in my cube "in case we need it") 
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PremiumSupport posted:From experience: Accountants are very protective of their old school Windows 2003 physical servers running accounting software built (if you're lucky) in the early 90's. Cross training as an accountant and then forcing these assholes to migrate to modern software should be worth cash money
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Oct 11, 2017 21:37
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mewse posted:Cross training as an accountant and then forcing these assholes to migrate to modern software should be worth cash money
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Oct 11, 2017 21:39
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anthonypants posted:You don't need to be an accountant to perform a cost-benefit analysis on lost man-hours waiting for old, slow/broken equipment vs the cost of upgrading said equipment. This argument falls down when you have to tell the board that no, after the switch you will not be able to get last years numbers on the same sheet as this years to compare. You'll be lucky if the account structure is similar enough to compare last year to current year on two separate sheets of paper. This is even more of an issue in publicly traded companies where by SEC regulation the statements have to be comparable. It costs a huge amount in terms of man-hours to upgrade an accounting system. Full disclosure: I am an accountant.
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Oct 11, 2017 22:26
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Just have them enter each transaction twice, one in each system until you have enough history on the new system to meet regulatory standards. Don't tell me that it's too much extra work, any accountant can handle double entries.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:00
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Does database import export not exist in this hypothetical world?
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Oct 11, 2017 23:10
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Kurieg posted:Does database import export not exist in this hypothetical world? I can copy this Excel file to an external drive and move it to another system if that's what you mean.
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Oct 11, 2017 23:34
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An urgent request came in! Client needs their domain controller NAT'ed to an external ip and ports 389 and 636 unblocked at the firewall! Our nat. director butted in and said nobody do this without telling the client why this is a horrible idea first.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:00
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Oct 12, 2017 00:02
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hihifellow posted:An urgent request came in! Client needs their domain controller NAT'ed to an external ip and ports 389 and 636 unblocked at the firewall! 
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Oct 12, 2017 00:03
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Someone wants an external service to do ldap authentication or directory lookup against their domain controller. Basically the worst idea ever.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:12
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Use Azure AD DS
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Oct 12, 2017 00:33
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God damnit somebody laugh at my dumb accounting joke.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:46
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ChubbyThePhat posted:I can copy this Excel file to an external drive and move it to another system if that's what you mean. And then from Excel to a .csv, which any SQL server worth it's salt can digest? Or are you saying that your 'database' is just an insanely large group excel spreadsheet?
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Oct 12, 2017 01:27
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PremiumSupport posted:This argument falls down when you have to tell the board that no, after the switch you will not be able to get last years numbers on the same sheet as this years to compare.
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Oct 12, 2017 01:48
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Thanks Ants posted:Use Azure AD DS We don't have Azure AD set up yet (  ), so I have 636 open, but I mean it's not a direct DC connection so I guess it's good enough?
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Oct 12, 2017 02:22
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:God damnit somebody laugh at my dumb accounting joke. You'll never get my laughs out of receivable.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:22
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Antioch posted:We don't have Azure AD set up yet ( 
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Oct 12, 2017 02:24
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It passes through an F5 with a very specific rule about incoming traffic so it's good enough. Or at least good enough for the director that signed off on it, making it officially Not My Problem ™. I'm still fixing it as soon as Azure AD DS is running in a few months.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:27
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Avenging_Mikon posted:I’m pretty sure he means Apple computers and not Media Access Control. Or Message Authentication Code.
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Oct 12, 2017 03:22
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What are ports 389 and 636 usually used for?
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Oct 12, 2017 03:55
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iospace posted:What are ports 389 and 636 usually used for? LDAP and LDAP over SSL/TLS
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Oct 12, 2017 03:57
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iospace posted:What are ports 389 and 636 usually used for? Services that use LDAP usually want them. Used to be one was for SSL/TLS transmission and one wasn't but some services are using both for secured transmissions.
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Oct 12, 2017 03:58
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:it's a bad idea to have two taskbars at the bottom of the screen. Yup. I once removed my machine from the domain rather than the one I was working on.
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Oct 12, 2017 04:08
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Proteus Jones posted:LDAP and LDAP over SSL/TLS So in other words, the response should be "hahahah no. You moron."
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Oct 12, 2017 04:12
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iospace posted:So in other words, the response should be "hahahah no. You moron." Absolutely. That's to go to response for any hole that gets punched through the firewall to the Domain Controller, to tell the truth.
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Oct 12, 2017 04:15
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MANime in the sheets posted:Yup. I once removed my machine from the domain rather than the one I was working on. use non standard colors for your machine. i hear the hotdog stand scheme is nice
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Oct 12, 2017 04:48
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RFC2324 posted:use non standard colors for your machine.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:02
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:God damnit somebody laugh at my dumb accounting joke. I use a periodic inventory system for my laughs, sorry; I'll let you know how many laughs I used at year-end. anthonypants posted:I'm not an accountant, so this sentence looks far too vague to mean anything. It is a relatively big thing in accounting to produce financial statements (income statement, balance sheet, etc.) showing at least this year's numbers and last year's numbers (and potentially further back as well). This is sort of for good reason: if you change how you're calculating or presenting the numbers, by recalculating last year's numbers the same way you still have some sort of basis for comparison. Of course, that means if you're changing accounting systems, you have to bring across enough data that the new system can calculate multiple years' worth of statements... and you'd better get it to come to the same numbers, the owner/investors/whatever probably don't want to hear the excuse of "oh, the new system added things up differently." It should be simple still, frankly, but for the systems you'd really want to move off of, you're suffering from the worst of all the vendor lock-in problems along with a bunch of users who don't really want to be helpful because the way they did things 25 years ago worked then and it's good enough today, dammit. If you want to know how things 'should' be (or just suffer from insomnia), look up XBRL GL, I guess.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:04
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Kurieg posted:Does database import export not exist in this hypothetical world? Sure, assuming that the old system used something even remotely resembling a modern database, and all the fields in the old database match up to fields in the new database 1:1, and you have SQL, Oracle, and/or DB flavor of the month in 1992 experts handy. In most cases you're either going to have to spend a lot of time massaging old data to fit into the new system and hoping you get it right, or just plain re-entering poo poo. Max Peck posted:
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Oct 12, 2017 15:41
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hihifellow posted:An urgent request came in! Client needs their domain controller NAT'ed to an external ip and ports 389 and 636 unblocked at the firewall! Good news! The client has external IPs they can filter for, so the only risk is potentially unencrypted credentials being passed over the internet 
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Oct 12, 2017 15:55
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hihifellow posted:Good news! The client has external IPs they can filter for, so the only risk is potentially unencrypted credentials being passed over the internet If they absolutely have to use the Internet, is there some sort of allergy to setting up a small-bandwidth P2P VPN to carry the traffic between sites?
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Oct 12, 2017 16:02
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my boss is loving retarded if 55 out of the last 58 tickets in the past year were done one way because a supervisor told us to, don't tell me the "way it's always been done" is the way the odd 3 tickets were. I cut him off while he was trying to blame me and said "Then there's a communication issue and you're not communicating to us"
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Oct 12, 2017 16:09
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"Well I'm telling you now" great what about the other 21 employees who aren't listening to this conversation send an e-mail
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Oct 12, 2017 16:10
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Proteus Jones posted:If they absolutely have to use the Internet, is there some sort of allergy to setting up a small-bandwidth P2P VPN to carry the traffic between sites? No idea, I'm just an observer since they sent the request to my group by accident when we have little to do with routers and firewalls.
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Oct 12, 2017 16:14
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The art teacher emailed me informing me that it is time for the annual "Contour Project" that I help her with. I responded saying I have no clue what she's talking about. The deadline for this project is tomorrow, and she doesn't know what it is, what it consists of, or how she did it. She just knows the IT department helps her with it. Long story short, the computer science teacher runs student selfies through a Photoshop filter and then she prints them out. The computer science teacher is out with food poisoning after eating raw chicken at his desk (yes). I refuse to do this project for her, telling her that if she has an assignment or project that she is requiring, she'd better know how to actually do it herself, and maybe next time don't wait until the day before to bring it up. Now I get to have a talk with the director this afternoon. I wholeheartedly plan on pointing out that I have a planned deployment of $489k worth of new technology that will cost the school absolutely nothing, as well as a future expansion that will save us $30k a year. If he wants to crawl my rear end about a lazy luddite art teacher who should have retired 8 years ago then I will gladly allow him to make his point to my back as I head out the door with every contact and deal I've spent the last two years working on. I've officially hit the point of no more fucks to give with this bullshit job.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:16
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larchesdanrew posted:The computer science teacher is out with food poisoning after eating raw chicken at his desk (yes). sometimes I think about doing the same thing for the same reason.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:19
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larchesdanrew posted:The art teacher emailed me informing me that it is time for the annual "Contour Project" that I help her with. I responded saying I have no clue what she's talking about. Does your school not have a desktop person? I get that you job has morphed into more important work, but does this teacher have no other resource to get help with computers? If you are it , that kind of request sounds annoying but not totally unreasonable considering. If you indeed spoke to her that way I would crawl up your rear end too.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:25
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Sickening posted:Does your school not have a desktop person? I get that you job has morphed into more important work, but does this teacher have no other resource to get help with computers? if it's not an outage, anyone who demands a <24 hour turnaround can get hosed.
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gently caress that. If someone called me to do Photoshop work, I'd tell them that's not my god damned job. Sure let me go model some Solidworks too while I'm at it.
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