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Boaz MacPhereson posted:So is this going to be C8 or some weird C7.5 offshoot? I thought I read somewhere a while back they were thinking of going with sort of a multi-model Corvette "brand". That wouldn't surprise me, with the way "Stingray," "Grand Sport," and "Z06" are all listed separately on their website.
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fknlo posted:C8 as far as I know. Current rumors are that the C7 will be sold alongside it for a few years which would be dumb as poo poo unless the base C8 is going to be significantly more expensive than past models which is probably not all that unlikely. There's also been on/off talk about GM doing another Corvette-based Cadillac.
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CornHolio posted:
Are you sure that is a GM product? Looks like a convertible NSX to me.
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Even Toyota wasn't able to make a reliable mid-engine car, this should be good.
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MrLogan posted:Are you sure that is a GM product? Looks like a convertible NSX to me. It's surrounded by other GM cars, and matches the car that comes up when you search for "mid-engined corvette."
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MrLogan posted:Are you sure that is a GM product? Looks like a convertible NSX to me. The cabin reads extremely C6/C7 to me. Doesn't look like an exact match to the C7's.
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Human Grand Prix posted:The basic 3 series is still a very good vehicle, it’s just that (unless something has changed recently) the equipment levels were a joke. Depends on how basic they get in your market. The base here is a wheezy 1.5l three cylinder with gross vinyl seats and is absolutely a crap choice in its price bracket. So is the next step up for that matter, I think you need to get into 330i models before you get any value (sure they’re expensive but at least you get something in return)
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Cocoa Crispies posted:That wouldn't surprise me, with the way "Stingray," "Grand Sport," and "Z06" are all listed separately on their website. I expect that it will become some new high-end Corvette Zora with a starting price above $100k.
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fknlo posted:C8 as far as I know. Current rumors are that the C7 will be sold alongside it for a few years which would be dumb as poo poo unless the base C8 is going to be significantly more expensive than past models which is probably not all that unlikely.
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ilkhan posted:Done that. He does good vids. Even if they are a bit dry. He does car seat fitting reviews too. Weird but helpful if you need one of those. https://www.cars.com/news/car-seat-check/ fills that niche too.
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CornHolio posted:
those wheels look extremely un-GM is that another one in the far background?
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Dislike button posted:those wheels look extremely un-GM No, i'm pretty sure those are trees, bob.
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Dislike button posted:those wheels look extremely un-GM And yes, looks like another one behind the yellow c7.
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At one point the C3 successor was gonna be mid-Wankel-engined, this was circa 1972. Then the fuel crisis hit and lol. The rumors have persisted ever since.
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MrLogan posted:Are you sure that is a GM product? Looks like a convertible NSX to me. pic from another angle.  definitey GM
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Also consider that the Corvette has moved way up market already to make more room for the Camaro. GM still doesn't want them competing with each other, but this time they aren't neutering the Camaro to slow it down.
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Powershift posted:pic from another angle. Ah, the ol get a giant drink from the drive-thru test. 
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kimbo305 posted:Ah, the ol get a giant drink from the drive-thru test. If it can't hold a 64 oz cup then I'm not interested.
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Mr. Apollo posted:How long have they been taking about this car? I seem to recall readings articles in my high school library on a mid-engined corvette back in the mid 90s. Yeah but this time we have actual mules driving around.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Also consider that the Corvette has moved way up market already to make more room for the Camaro. GM still doesn't want them competing with each other, but this time they aren't neutering the Camaro to slow it down.
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CornHolio posted:
I demand that it be called the Fiero.
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ilkhan posted:Pretty much. The Camaro whateverthefuckfastedition is just as fast around a track as the C7. I just wish they keep the front engine around as a 2 seat GT car. It's a given as this setup gives them a three-pronged strategy of traditional front-engine coupe, front-mid, and mid-engine sports car chassis to work with that they they can sell across a crazy number of price points and use to compete in just about every motor racing class. Technology has also progressed such that they could make a mid-engine tub chassis car with relatively exotic materials for little more than a mid-level SUV, which I think is the real reason GM finally got around to this car after decades. Wouldn't even surprise me if the fastest Camaro ends up being faster than the cheapest base mid-engine model. Huge opportunity to up-sell for mad money, i.e. profits, selling options on other-wise cheap base cars.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Also consider that the Corvette has moved way up market already to make more room for the Camaro. GM still doesn't want them competing with each other, but this time they aren't neutering the Camaro to slow it down. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they position it as a ford gt for the people (who can afford a 150k car)
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I desperately want it to be the new Fiero.
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The new mid-engined Vette will have a starting price over 100k and fully optioned will be closer to 150k. I can’t wait for the pissed of Boomer fanboys to get all kinds of butthurt about it.
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Huge_Midget posted:The new mid-engined Vette will have a starting price over 100k and fully optioned will be closer to 150k. I can’t wait for the pissed of Boomer fanboys to get all kinds of butthurt about it. You can count on it. If I had to bet money on it, I'd put the Camaro/Vette/mid-engine starting prices at ~$30K/60K/90K.
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EnergizerFellow posted:You can count on it. If you include the 4cyl Camaro, yes that's realistic. A base V8 is $38k MSRP. Base C7 / GS / Z06 is $55/65/79K.
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McTinkerson posted:I desperately want it to be the new Fiero. im totally going to call it the Fiero
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EnergizerFellow posted:You can count on it. Could Chevy really get away with pricing this thing right in line with the 911? I don't know squat about what the marketplace is like for six figure cars but I know I see an awful lot of 911s running around DFW.
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FBS posted:Could Chevy really get away with pricing this thing right in line with the 911? People already pay $100k for LS based mid engine kit cars.
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FBS posted:Could Chevy really get away with pricing this thing right in line with the 911? You would be surprised how many F-types, Boxster/Cayman, and others like them get optioned up into that price range. GM's selling point on this will likely be "McLaren for half the price", which is basically where the Corvette is relative to the 911. Direct competitor would be something like a Lotus Evora, though higher trims/options will put it more in-line with the NSX and Ford GT for pricing.
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Powershift posted:People already pay $100k for LS based mid engine kit cars. Is GM dumb enough to use their turbo 6 instead of a sbc?
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MrLogan posted:Is GM dumb enough to use their turbo 6 instead of a sbc?
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MrLogan posted:Is GM dumb enough to use their turbo 6 instead of a sbc? I wouldn't be super surprised if they threw the turbo 6 in the base model but I don't think I've really heard much about that. There's a lot of talk about the car getting a DOHC V8 though.
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MrLogan posted:Is GM dumb enough to use their turbo 6 instead of a sbc? Yes they are. Theres also a nasty rumor that it might be a mild hybrid. It's simultaneously believable and terrible, which, given that it's GM we're talking about, means it's probably true.
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MrYenko posted:Yes they are. Why is a mild hybrid lame? It just means a 48v low-voltage system instead of 12v, and a better starter motor, in effect. It's not like they're going to weigh it down with 10kWh-worth of batteries.
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drgitlin posted:Why is a mild hybrid lame? It just means a 48v low-voltage system instead of 12v, and a better starter motor, in effect. It's not like they're going to weigh it down with 10kWh-worth of batteries. Because I don't want a half-assed, budget P1, I want a mid-engined V8 Corvette track-monster like they've been teasing for FORTY YEARS... ...Which is why a mild hybrid is exactly what I think is going to happen. 
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MrYenko posted:Yes they are. I think within 5 years, every single car will be a "mild hybrid" with a belt driven starter/alternator that can harvest energy while coasting and contribute to forward motion. The benefit is too great not to go that route.
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