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SettingSun posted:The DMG says that as long as the ring is on a digit, it works. So stick em on your toes for 20 rings. Why stop there? You have two knuckles on your fingers. 30 rings! Does the DMG specify a finger? Because it could be 31.
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"...a ring must be worn on a finger, or similar digit." Draw your own conclusion on that one.
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Oct 12, 2017 16:46
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Best part: "...five years ago, I never would have chosen the game’s most popular match: the human fighter. There are already enough human fighters in movies, TV and books — my first character was an albino dragonborn sorcerer. But these days I can get behind the combo’s simplicity: It lets you focus on creating a good story rather than spending time flipping through rulebooks to look up spells."
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People prefer the race that can give them more feats, skills? Shocking.slap me and kiss me posted:Best part: Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah they said they are putting some of the Sword Coast Adventure guide stuff and EE stuff in the book so you don't have to look in three different places for some stuff. Aw, that’s nice. More reprints and wasted space in the book.
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Deptfordx posted:So played our first session of Storm Kings Thunder last night, it went very well.
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That chart outright says that multi-classers count each class individually, so of course Human (extra feat, skills) Fighter (probably the best one level dip class) tops the chart.
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"Players who pick the avian aarakocra are most likely to adventure as martial artist monks, filling the skies of the Forgotten Realms with Jet Li Big Birds."
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Oct 12, 2017 18:31
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if that gets used to justify current Fighter design I am going to scream
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gradenko_2000 posted:if that gets used to justify current Fighter design I am going to scream Start screaming
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SettingSun posted:That chart outright says that multi-classers count each class individually, so of course Human (extra feat, skills) Fighter (probably the best one level dip class) tops the chart. Toplowtech posted:People prefer the race that can give them more feats, skills? Shocking. I don't see any restriction in the article on users that purchased vs free users. So given feats are not part of the SRD, I'd guess that he vast majority of users chose the normal human instead of variant and did not select feats at all. I'm guessing that human fighter is significantly overrepresented in the first month due to people making the most generic character they could think of in order to test the workings
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kirtar posted:You might be able to do Sunless Citadel pretty easily since I think it's in the general area. Just looked at it, too low level, they'll be 2nd by the time they've finished all the Nightstone threads, but that led me to the next adventure in Yawning Portal, Forges of Fury, which with a little tweaking might do very well.
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What do you do when you roll 100, twice, on the magic loot table. The fates have decided the rarest item should belong to your party. And also they should have two of it. I guess I could do it and have everyone fight over themselves to see who waves the wand first every time they enter a room, or I just look at those 90's items and pick an interesting one for them? If I just reroll they'll get a healing potion instead and that seems unfair even if I'm the only person who noticed the substitution.
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Krinkle posted:What do you do when you roll 100, twice, on the magic loot table. The fates have decided the rarest item should belong to your party. And also they should have two of it. I guess I could do it and have everyone fight over themselves to see who waves the wand first every time they enter a room, or I just look at those 90's items and pick an interesting one for them? If I just reroll they'll get a healing potion instead and that seems unfair even if I'm the only person who noticed the substitution. They may have two of it, but the wands' magic is powered of the spirits of two lovers. Apart they function normally, if less spectacularly, but used together (by two different characters) their effects are much greater. Or, just pick something else that'd be really good for the party.
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Pick something that will be really good for the campaign, even. Having a sought-after artifact can be like parking your car in the wrong part of town.
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Is one player playing a relatively underpowered build? You could give them something powerful that brings them more in line with all the crossbow fighters.
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Deptfordx posted:So played our first session of Storm Kings Thunder last night, it went very well. Forge of Fury could be fun to slot in at that level. Being a level 3 to 5 or something like that module. Edit:Just saw you came to that conclusion first. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 23:01
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Literally the only anomalies are critical role characters lol
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What's the least popular character type you ever made? I made a Goliath rogue down at 139. An andre the giant sized oaf who would go all pink panther bent knee skulking and try to pick your pocket with his basketball palming hands. If multiclasses were here, it would probably be my gnome wizard who immediately multiclassed into barbarian. Krinkle fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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kingcom posted:Literally the only anomalies are critical role characters lol What anomalies?
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I just started my very first D&D game and rolled a human rogue with plans to multiclass a level of fighter, so sorry for being part of the problem (if I could start over, I'd just be a fighter)
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Ainsley McTree posted:I just started my very first D&D game and rolled a human rogue with plans to multiclass a level of fighter, so sorry for being part of the problem Don't apologize, one to two levels of rogue owns.
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mango sentinel posted:What anomalies? Anything thats not human and playing the very clear cut optimal race + class combo.
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kingcom posted:Anything thats not human and playing the very clear cut optimal race + class combo. Half-Elf Druid and Gnome Cleric & Bard are the only weird Critler characters and those are still real rare.
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The other kind of weird anomaly in that 538 chart is classes with rarely-used races that still have optimal stats. Like, on paper it should be fine, those races just get passed over. From a quick look - Halfling sorc and warlock (but not bard). Dragonborn and tiefling bards (but both are popular sorcs). Dwarf druid (but not cleric). Half-elves are good at everything by design and super popular, but only have 153 barbarians - far fewer than other martial classes, and second-lowest race for barbs. Twice as many people went for a comedy-option halfling barb. For a game this weekend I had made a fairly boring human sorc. Now thinking of going halfling instead and coming up with a new concept. The sorc's gimmick is 'you were born this way', so I was thinking maybe a magical experiment or secret weapons program gone wrong. Maybe someone wanted a loyal, living weapon that could infiltrate and strike anywhere, using subtle metamagic and stealth. But instead they got a halfling that couldn't be controlled, was still pretty dangerous, and eventually it broke out and is really pissed. Then I realized my character concept is a mashup of Jack from Mass Effect and that psychic kid from Stranger Things.
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ritorix posted:The other kind of weird anomaly in that 538 chart is classes with rarely-used races that still have optimal stats. Like, on paper it should be fine, those races just get passed over. The mistake people keep making - and this twelve trillion percent goes for the actual devs, too - is in assuming that most D&D players put any stock whatsoever in finding mechanical connections instead of just making the general character they think is cool.
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mango sentinel posted:Half-Elf Druid and Gnome Cleric & Bard are the only weird Critler characters and those are still real rare. Yeah fair point, also apparently if you multi class you count as 1 in every class you took at least one level in. So everyone taking an arbitrary dip in fighter for extra action + heavy armour prof and then everything else in their proper class makes it super screwy.
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ProfessorCirno posted:The mistake people keep making - and this twelve trillion percent goes for the actual devs, too - is in assuming that most D&D players put any stock whatsoever in finding mechanical connections instead of just making the general character they think is cool. I'm not sure that's entirely true now that we have a chart. Brand new players, sure, they go for cool. But looking at popular races for each class, the majority are a stat-optimal race. Only a few are anomalies as kingcom pointed out. So a tiefling fighter might be cool - (an edgelord devil warrior!) but it's definitely been passed over for races with Str or Dex. People are loving crazy for elves and their stats make almost any class viable, but with barbarians there's a distinct about-face where folks went for Str races instead. Humans are super popular for what I'm guessing is an obvious reason, the feat. It may also be that the early adopters on the first month of Beyond, in a game now several years old, are more inclined towards mechanical choices and actual table stats will be way different.
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Is there any accounting for variant human over regular human? The details are probably there, just think if the devs utilised the data.
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ritorix posted:I'm not sure that's entirely true now that we have a chart. Brand new players, sure, they go for cool. But looking at popular races for each class, the majority are a stat-optimal race. Only a few are anomalies as kingcom pointed out. So a tiefling fighter might be cool - (an edgelord devil warrior!) but it's definitely been passed over for races with Str or Dex. People are loving crazy for elves and their stats make almost any class viable, but with barbarians there's a distinct about-face where folks went for Str races instead. Humans are super popular for what I'm guessing is an obvious reason, the feat.
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mango sentinel posted:Humans are also just insanely popular because people suck. When most video games let you play cool monster races, the vast majority of players still beeline to the most boring human option. While I'm sure over represented in this sample of specific nerds actively seeking a character builder, I'm sure D&D folks at large still mostly play humans and probably the non-variant at that. Having humans be straight amazing stat and bonus wise is a pretty strong motivator when ordinarily I would play almost exclusively dragonbros and various monster friends. My group is going to be 3 tieflings, a Half-elf and a dragonborn so maybe thats not the best example. For reference I've literally never played in a game with a dwarf pc. EDIT: PC not NPC kingcom fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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kingcom posted:Having humans be straight amazing stat and bonus wise is a pretty strong motivator when ordinarily I would play almost exclusively dragonbros and various monster friends. My group is going to be 3 tieflings, a Half-elf and a dragonborn so maybe thats not the best example. very few people want to be the short guy
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Elfgames posted:very few people want to be the short guy Yeah I guess so, I've had halflings and gnomes but I've never had a dwarf player.
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I'd wager real money that at least 60% of single class fighters in that list are named <blank>, <default name>, or some variation of "Fightor McTestington".
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I've had dwarves in every single table I've played or DM'd, yet I've yet to encounter a halfling or even a half-elf. "People don't like this in my experience" is a garbage metric.
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Who doesn't, at some point, just want to be dollar store Gimli for a little while?
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let me just break out my Dwarf Fighter here called MC Killzalot ...
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In my current group we have a dwarf rogue. No humans, either.
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No one plays a dwarf in my group's games because there is an implied expectation to be gruff voiced and/or Scottish and no one has the drive to do that.
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