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You missed my favorite one which is the tree Schmendrick gives life to temporarily which promises that her love alone will make him immortal as she will capture all parts of him in her memories in a way no other living thing would choose to do, making him uniquely forever in her. Seriously though, gently caress the butterfly he deserves eternal, agonizing death.
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Barudak posted:You missed my favorite one which is the tree Schmendrick gives life to temporarily which promises that her love alone will make him immortal as she will capture all parts of him in her memories in a way no other living thing would choose to do, making him uniquely forever in her. I always forget because the tree has a big scary vagina mouth and big tree boobs and somehow still looks like a big cock and balls.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:41
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I am totally against unnecessarily reading sexual imagery into things, but wo
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Oct 12, 2017 05:42
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Also, the harpy has THREE boobs. THREE of them. I actually thought that was kind of inspired, since it wouldn't have occurred to me to design a harpy that way.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:44
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Please do not insult my Yonic and Phallic stereotype of boa wearing flirtatious older women friend. I love King Haggard, and its not just because I'm into elaborate government housing programs. Edit: The harpy design is great, but its definitely pretty classical in so far as its distinctly inhumanly hideous with the tits kind of tacked on to throw you off the "its just a bird" I love the skeleton that just fucks with them, its how I would spend my immortality. Barudak fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 05:45
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King Haggard is one of the few "pathetic/powerful" villains that actually nails it. So good.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:49
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I also concur re: fuckery skeleton
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Oct 12, 2017 05:50
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As well as cat who is challenged on his benevolent fuckery and replies with "lol that's the best I can do while also being a piece of poo poo, i.e. a cat"
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Oct 12, 2017 05:51
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I agree as well regarding the cat. The film is full of dozens of one off characters who exist for a scene purely to impart some disjointed dialog about legacy or immortality or whatever and then straight up vanish to never show up again. Edit: Lir, Schmendrick is giving you an out to admit that you aren't in love with a horse. TAKE IT
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Oct 12, 2017 05:53
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Not only does it go on legacy, but also how one's wishes and desires aren't always the same or that reality doesn't always match expectations - like how the Unicorn refused to appear in front of the princess because she knows the princess doesn't really want it, how Fortuna's desire to have the immortals eventually kills her, or Haggard did get almost all the unicorns he so wants but he's still a miserable being, or how in the end the Unicorn is forever changed by the fact she had wanted something so deeply.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:56
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Barudak posted:I agree as well regarding the cat. The film is full of dozens of one off characters who exist for a scene purely to impart some disjointed dialog about legacy or immortality or whatever and then straight up vanish to never show up again. Very true, but I like Brave Little Toaster for the same reasons. I like that you see people and you learn one or two things from them, maybe, and then move on. It seems disjointed but it's a lot closer to the narrative structure people actually experience in life. The cat's point seems to be about tradition and identity, that he must remain true to the identity of his "kind" to ensure their combined legacy is cohesive. So his legacy is not so much as, the cat, but as a cat, for the sake of cats.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:59
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Or how Lir straight abandons his questing and his quest to write a song for her, knowing that he can not succeed at either. The film is melancholy as all hell. On re-completion of the film, King Haggard remains awesome and I will fight anyone who gets in my way to collect Edit: I have always interpreted King Haggard's story to be the duality that collecting/hoarding something is fundamentally alienating and unrewarding, but that using the very thing you seek is itself destructive to your ability to have those things. A drinker of wine can not truly be a collector.
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Oct 12, 2017 05:59
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I do sort of admire that Haggard didn't bow to the pressures of what a king was meant to desire. He didn't like that poo poo and he told it to get gone. Unicorns make him happy, and Unicorns he shall have. "Even if it kills him?" You loving bet, he knows it.
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Oct 12, 2017 06:02
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Pick posted:I do sort of admire that Haggard didn't bow to the pressures of what a king was meant to desire. He didn't like that poo poo and he told it to get gone. Unicorns make him happy, and Unicorns he shall have. King Haggard was an important role model for me if that wasn't obvious. Happiness is what you choose, even if it is stupid, pointless, beneath your station and involves kidnapping a staggering amount of white women.
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Oct 12, 2017 06:02
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Ahaha gently caress I forgot this film ends with a loud but not triumphant "I'm Alive". gently caress you kids, this is the best it gets.
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Oct 12, 2017 06:05
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It's also the first film I know that didn't immediately segue to the lazy showdown. One of the first, anyway. Amalthea meets Haggard and, like, talks to him for a while. She takes the time to listen to him, and he communicates with her. It's a lot more interesting. (It's also why Ravenous is fun for the first half, and awesome in the second half.)
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Oct 12, 2017 06:06
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Barudak posted:Ahaha gently caress I forgot this film ends with a loud but not triumphant "I'm Alive". gently caress you kids, this is the best it gets. How about... thiiis visual?! 
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Oct 12, 2017 06:07
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 \ | ha ha your friend is probably going to die and you're so distraught! watch this! phbtttbtbtttttt haha! answer my riddle! ha ha it's full of poo poo!! ha ha!
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Oct 12, 2017 06:10
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Pick posted:How about... thiiis visual?! Sorry, but it does not adequately capture the scene where he looks down at Lir coming home and casually drops that he doesn't love his son, doesn't care that he doesn't, doesn't care that you know he doesn't, but still treats him fine because its not like abusing Lir would make him happy either. Ravenous is a crazy movie, and yes, most films are way better when you spend a lot of time with the villain. Edit: The skeleton even mentions he has all of eternity to not give a gently caress about there predicament and thats why he will gently caress with them forever. It no longer matters.
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Oct 12, 2017 06:12
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Barudak posted:You missed my favorite one which is the tree Schmendrick gives life to temporarily which promises that her love alone will make him immortal as she will capture all parts of him in her memories in a way no other living thing would choose to do, making him uniquely forever in her. For some reason that big boobed tree scared the poo poo out of me as a kid even though I was fine with everything else in the movie.
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Oct 12, 2017 06:12
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Barudak posted:Sorry, but it does not adequately capture the scene where he looks down at Lir coming home and casually drops that he doesn't love his son, doesn't care that he doesn't, doesn't care that you know he doesn't, but still treats him fine because its not like abusing Lir would make him happy either. That scene is motherfucking cold as ice and it owns.
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Oct 12, 2017 06:12
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Moon Atari posted:For some reason that big boobed tree scared the poo poo out of me as a kid even though I was fine with everything else in the movie. I know a lot of people who that scene hosed them up something fierce which is extra weird when as a viewer it follows the hideous death harpy promising oblivion for no reason other than it can as like a magic-powered scorpion from the scorpion and the frog except it isn't just its nature to be destructive, its its only joy in life. A gal I knew adored this movie (she was, uh, one of those kinds of fans of unicorns) and she had to fastforward the tree scene since it freaked her out so bad.
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Oct 12, 2017 06:15
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Barudak posted:Edit: The skeleton even mentions he has all of eternity to not give a gently caress about there predicament and thats why he will gently caress with them forever. It no longer matters. 
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Oct 12, 2017 06:23
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Pick posted:HOW DARE YOU!? HOW DARE YOU COME TO ME NOW, when I am THIS! This scene always makes me cry for reasons that are hard to explain and yet also very simple. The last Unicorn is a good movie/book that gives me a lot of complicated emotions.
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Oct 12, 2017 07:15
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So it's the spooky time of year... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av78r69-w64
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Oct 12, 2017 09:22
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i'm watching the last unicorn right now, i think i last saw it when i was about 6 i'm aliiiiiive i'm aliiiiiiiiiiiiive
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Oct 12, 2017 11:17
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this butterfly makes me feel like i'm having a stroke
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Oct 12, 2017 11:20
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i must have repressed the childhood memories of watching a man get molested by a tree
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Oct 12, 2017 11:53
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omg this prince is a dweeb a nurr hurr i wanna gently caress the horse but it won't let me nurrrr
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Oct 12, 2017 12:14
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the cat owns though
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Oct 12, 2017 12:20
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well that was good but the loving dumbass unicorn was weak as piss, always needing men to do things for her, molly grue is lucky she never showed up, she would have completely ruined her life. stupid pony thing
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Oct 12, 2017 12:51
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I haven't seen The Last Unicorn since I was best friends with a girl who likes Unicorns. In 1994. I guess I'm doing this, this weekend.
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Oct 12, 2017 14:44
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:This scene always makes me cry for reasons that are hard to explain and yet also very simple. Something that gets me is that that sequence follows Molly Grue’s entire known social circle (one of whom carved his affections for her into a tree) leaving and never once again appearing in the film. Like she isnt just old, her life is also in complete shambles it will not recover from. Im Aliiiiive.
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Oct 12, 2017 14:46
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I tried to watch The Last Unicorn but that movie has trash animation and it's actually painful to watch. Good theme song thoughThe_Doctor posted:So it's the spooky time of year... Similarly, this movie is really hard to go back and watch because the animation is SO rough now. At least for me. The songs in this movie are still absolutely stellar though. Also the animation the ghosts in this song owns
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Oct 12, 2017 16:40
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*head a-splode*
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Oct 12, 2017 16:46
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He's ancient, he's ugly, I don't know which is worse...
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Oct 12, 2017 16:56
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Wont lie, never really cared for Nightmare Before Christmas. Super well animated and a decent song or two but as a film to watch Ive a hard time despite its short length.
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Oct 12, 2017 17:42
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I love TNBC and even have a 16" meta Jack head I put in the middle of my Christmas wreath.
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Oct 12, 2017 18:05
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Barudak posted:Edit: I have always interpreted King Haggard's story to be the duality that collecting/hoarding something is fundamentally alienating and unrewarding, but that using the very thing you seek is itself destructive to your ability to have those things. A drinker of wine can not truly be a collector. Clearly the answer is to play 40K where hording hundreds of models is not only encouraged, but necessary to play the game 
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Barudak posted:Something that gets me is that that sequence follows Molly Grue’s entire known social circle (one of whom carved his affections for her into a tree) leaving and never once again appearing in the film. Like she isnt just old, her life is also in complete shambles it will not recover from. But she does recover, and that's what makes that scene so great: her whole life she's been told that beautiful and magical things only happen to women when they're young and pure, and now that she's no longer that way they'll never happen to her. But that was just a lie, and the moment she sees the Unicorn she realizes that. It's painful and overwhelming because she's been waiting for it for so long; but it's also wonderful because even though something magical isn't happening when it's supposed to happen it's still happening and it's still beautiful. It wasn't too late for her. Her life never goes back to what it was, instead it becomes something better. 
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