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Two Beans posted:I see that. Its just (and maybe it's just me) that I keep noticing animosity towards 100%ing games, even to the point where some devs will implement mechanics against 100%ing. Lisa, with its cloud you have to ride for 2 hours in realtime as it slowly drags you to a collectable. Undertale guilt-tripping the player for subsequent replays. I mean, this animosity towards the player/viewer/reader/listener exists in all other forms of media and art, you're always going to have designers/creators who troll their audience. Is it commentary on something or just people being spiteful/mean? That I can't answer.
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Two Beans posted:I don't get this mentality. What's wrong with playing all of a game? It's a matter of shades. I really like this game and want to do every part of it because it's so awesome!! - Good I want to do everything in the game least until I get something else to play/do - cool I want to do everything because I need to make sure I squeeze every penny out of this no matter how much fun am not having - broke brain
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Impermanent posted:it's genuinely very weird to ruin a game for yourself by playing it too much. this is basically Destiny 2 in a nutshell for people who played nonstop for like 60 hours at launch
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Don't use a guide for nintendo games unless you are super stumped (it happens) They are designed for even children to figure it out, I think looking up guides robs you of an experience that a developer might argue is "the whole point," running around in shrines and looking at the set pieces/manipulating them until something clicks feels great! of course I'm not much of a completionist, I can't fathom the kind of free time a gamer who 100%'s games has, it's an extremely empty pursuit and you shouldn't do that to yourself because not only are there a fuckton of games out there, very very few are worth experiencing entirely from top to bottom But yeah I agree that if you are a completionist then using a guide towards the end is probably the smartest use of your time and helps ensure more enjoyment E: what lethalgeek said I always go back to souls games for more, and that stems from a compulsion to experience that universe and live in it some more rather than getting achievements, no time spent on souls games is ever regretful for me
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KingSlime posted:of course I'm not much of a completionist, I can't fathom the kind of free time a gamer who 100%'s games has, it's an extremely empty pursuit and you shouldn't do that to yourself because not only are there a fuckton of games out there, very very few are worth experiencing entirely from top to bottom There are a bunch of games where getting 100% of it is much more fun than completing any % of some other shittier game.
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oh yeah my response isn't touching upon even slightly mediocre games (life's too short for that), even between really amazing games worth your money there is a lot of content out there and I find myself having to prioritize something fierce
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Oct 12, 2017 18:56
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The Bloop posted:lol I think most "gamers" whatever that means absolutely use guides for most of what they play, and devs seem to know that judging by all the impossible to find stuff. Also there's a number of games (with the prominent example being any recent Mario) that don't really offer any acceptable level of difficulty unless you're going for 100%. Whether it's fun or not it's up to the player of course, but I find levels like Champion's Road or the oldie but goodie Perfect Run the kind of thing that make mario games more interesting.
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Mahoning posted:I wonder how many bug reports are from people who played it on PC and are noticing things that first time players wouldn't? I'm guessing a lot if not most. I've never played it on the PC, but cracking music doesn't really strike me as a first-time-only issue either way. I also thought my switch was freaking out until reading another person in this thread. I've had some buggy interactions with moving items around. When I got the "super slingshot" it wouldn't let me exit the menu until I'd taken a duplicate one out and thrown away a good item, only for the dupe to disappear when I put it into a chest. Also the little ghost mice collection thing has some weirdness, like I'll be hovering over a bundle and it'll have the tooltip for the last item up. Backing out of the menu and going in again seems to clear it, haven't lost anything to that one yet. So yeah, first time playing the game ever, there's some obviously buggy behavior but it's still a fun game.
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If you look at xbox/steam/ps4 achievements, the number of people who even finish a game is very small. It's under 50% typically even for games that don't have any sort of difficulty/length barrier. Forget actual completionist numbers. Nintendo doesn't do achievements (which is too bad imo) but I'd imagine the number of people who found every korok is extremely small. As someone already mentioned, the huge amount of koroks is to ensure everyone has that 'a-ha! I found something' moment occurring somewhat frequently across 'regular' play. Mario is probably the same.
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ultrachrist posted:If you look at xbox/steam/ps4 achievements, the number of people who even finish a game is very small. It's under 50% typically even for games that don't have any sort of difficulty/length barrier. Forget actual completionist numbers. Nintendo doesn't do achievements (which is too bad imo) but I'd imagine the number of people who found every korok is extremely small. As someone already mentioned, the huge amount of koroks is to ensure everyone has that 'a-ha! I found something' moment occurring somewhat frequently across 'regular' play. Mario is probably the same. Yeah I don't doubt that a lot of people use guides but the idea that "most gamers use guides nowadays" seems flimsy given that kind of data, which is as close to actually relevant data that we might get with this type of discussion also WHY THE gently caress IS THERE NO PLAY LOG ON SWITCH???? This vague "played for about x hours in increments of 5" is driving me nuts. It gives me conniptions the log was one my favorite 3DS features 
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KingSlime posted:Yeah I don't doubt that a lot of people use guides but the idea that "most gamers use guides nowadays" seems flimsy given that kind of data, which is as close to actually relevant data that we might get with this type of discussion By gamers I mean guys that actually play semi-invested and want a challenge out of their hobby. They have more free time than most people, will play all the Souls that come out and will usually try to 100% stuff if it's hard enough. No one gives a gently caress about 100%ing games like Uncharted 4 though so obviously there are a lot of exceptions, even for them.
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Sometimes when I'm playing Breath of the Wild I'll just walk along paths instead of trying to clamber all over the place. It's really cool how they visually distinguish paths that get used a lot versus paths that have fallen out of use versus the grander walkways of pre-calamity hyrule.
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PantsBandit posted:Sometimes when I'm playing Breath of the Wild I'll just walk along paths instead of trying to clamber all over the place. It's really cool how they visually distinguish paths that get used a lot versus paths that have fallen out of use versus the grander walkways of pre-calamity hyrule. I have played BOTW almost twice (beat it on WiiU, got it again on Switch and explored the map but didn’t do any dungeons because I didn’t want the lasers) and have almost never used the paths.
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the truth posted:I have played BOTW almost twice (beat it on WiiU, got it again on Switch and explored the map but didn’t do any dungeons because I didn’t want the lasers) and have almost never used the paths. I'd recommend it. Try just walking from Hateno to Kakariko, it's really a different perspective on the world.
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the paths are so full of life! I love getting the impression of a living world. And your horse will travel down them automatically! (even though the game still subscribes to Zelda Scale, so each town is the size of one large family, which feels small even for a post apocalyptic setting.)
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Regardless of your approach to travel, pro mode HUD is the way to go also my first two divine beast powers kinda broke the difficulty curve a little revali's gale and water princess healing
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Impermanent posted:it's genuinely very weird to ruin a game for yourself by playing it too much. I binged heavily on the first Xenoblade game and once I was about 60-65 hours in I was getting so burnt out I just started rushing for the end. Still had over 70 hours of game time when I finally beat it. the truth posted:I have played BOTW almost twice (beat it on WiiU, got it again on Switch and explored the map but didn’t do any dungeons because I didn’t want the lasers) and have almost never used the paths. I didn't find the Korok seed turn-in NPC until after I beat BOTW. I forget what route I took to reach the village but I know it didn't involve very many roads.
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Impermanent posted:the paths are so full of life! I love getting the impression of a living world. And your horse will travel down them automatically! (even though the game still subscribes to Zelda Scale, so each town is the size of one large family, which feels small even for a post apocalyptic setting.) Ya, slowly riding your horse between towns while you look around, preferably with the HUD off, is a phenomenal experience. The landscape in botw has a very visceral impact, and auto riding on paths is perhaps the best way to experience it.
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Oct 12, 2017 20:18
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Path of the Hero is a dope thing and I wish every open world game had something similar. So many little areas I haven't visited even with like 150 hours logged on my save.
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Oct 12, 2017 20:25
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drat it now i have to get the DLC, I want that feature
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Oct 12, 2017 20:27
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Moving to a new place that doesn't have a tv. Bought one of these. Pretty sure it's the same thing.
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Since when do you move into a new place that DOES have a tv? That's kind of something a tenant has to supply.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Path of the Hero is a dope thing and I wish every open world game had something similar. So many little areas I haven't visited even with like 150 hours logged on my save. Path of the Hero is interesting because I can see how I loving combed over the landscape for the first 75% of the game, and then clearly went "gently caress it" and my paths go straight to items. Like... it's a great game and all, and I put 110 hours into it. I just don't have the patients to put 200 hours into it to find those final shrines. None of them were necessary to beat the game, but I liked the puzzles enough that I just wanted to see them all.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Since when do you move into a new place that DOES have a tv? That's kind of something a tenant has to supply. I rent furnished because I travel a lot. If I moved in somewhere and there was a Switch I'd be surprised.
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KingSlime posted:oh yeah my response isn't touching upon even slightly mediocre games (life's too short for that), even between really amazing games worth your money there is a lot of content out there and I find myself having to prioritize something fierce I didn't entirely mean actual poo poo games, though I can see where you read that. I just meant worse games in general. For example, there's not much gained in playing Paper Mario: Sticker Star at all so I'd rather 100% TTYD. And despite what you keep trying to insinuate, getting 100% in a lot of games often isn't that much more time consuming and a lot of times is more fun than you'd think. The exceptions are usually RPGs and sandbox games which try to pack in so much dumb content over a huge space that you start to get games over 100 hours for trying to 100%. Botw is definitely like this and for those, yeah I'd say that's usually not worth it. A lot of games hide really good content within their extra poo poo that totally makes going for 100% a fun ride, sometimes almost definitely so over the main game itself. You're also not accounting for differing tastes. There are people out there who don't care about JRPGs, despite this year having several good options for those. Some people can't stand action games and wouldn't get into Bloodborne or Dark Souls or Nioh or whatever. Everyone can whittle down their list of games like this, sometimes to very large degrees. This is where you'll see people who'll be okay with a smaller amount of games but get very invested in the ones they choose. Kawabata posted:By gamers I mean guys that actually play semi-invested and want a challenge out of their hobby. They have more free time than most people, will play all the Souls that come out and will usually try to 100% stuff if it's hard enough. No one gives a gently caress about 100%ing games like Uncharted 4 though so obviously there are a lot of exceptions, even for them. Eh, I don't agree. I read a lot of posters here who talk about many games within this year, and I only have time for a couple games in a year these days. I'm much more comfortable just playing a few games repeatedly through the year in my limited time, but yet there's a lot more casual players who'll talk about needing to buy a game each month or something. I do think you're right in that most of the invested gamers will use a guide, but I don't really get how that's an important discussion in the first place. We've known for a long time that devs will put in dumb poo poo in games that need a guide to help sell guides/info for years.
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Stardew Question: Does produce you've harvested rot? I know crops will die in the ground when the season changes but I wanna know if stored produce magically stays fresh forever. Also how late can you stay up before the game forces you to go to sleep?
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Internet Kraken posted:Stardew Question: Does produce you've harvested rot? I know crops will die in the ground when the season changes but I wanna know if stored produce magically stays fresh forever. No it doesn't rot.
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Internet Kraken posted:Stardew Question: Does produce you've harvested rot? I know crops will die in the ground when the season changes but I wanna know if stored produce magically stays fresh forever. I'm pretty sure 2 a.m. is the latest you can stay up.
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irlZaphod posted:Yono and the Celestial Elephants ($14.99 / £12.99 / €14.99) [NA eShop] [PAL eShop] Jesus, this is like the cutest game ever made  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7n3dkF5JLA
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https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/918643391709061120 https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/918644279458676736
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Man I am here to tell you gently caress level 3-4 on Puyo Puyo Tetris, it is no fun just getting steamrolled by the computer with a difficulty spike out of nowhere. Like enough that I think I'm done with this game.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:22
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thank god someone licked all those games for me
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mandatory lesbian posted:thank god someone licked all those games for me Pre-licked so you don't have to.
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Midjack posted:Man I am here to tell you gently caress level 3-4 on Puyo Puyo Tetris, it is no fun just getting steamrolled by the computer with a difficulty spike out of nowhere. Like enough that I think I'm done with this game. If you fail something like 3 times in a row the game will just let you skip the stage, you can always come back whenever you want to.
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Started Zelda for the first time tonight. Jumped off a cliff and died, fell out of a tree and died and then I was on fire. Solid camping sim.
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Trying to complete Greedier with The Lost -170 something streak. It's time to go unlock insta kill cards
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I have never played picross. I just played picross. I love picross.
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