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Komet posted:For what reason? Franklin got an extension last season through 2022 and he's already one of the highest paid coaches in college football. Saban makes even more and that doesn't stop him from leaking interest in texas every time it opens so he can get another raise
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The other theory is A&M leaked ahead of James Franklin going down to Texas for two 2019 recruits.
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Komet posted:For what reason? Franklin got an extension last season through 2022 and he's already one of the highest paid coaches in college football. Because they know your child rape enabling school cares more about winning football than anything and has deeper pockets and will pay him more.
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Maybe one of the powers that be was looking for the source of an information leak so he did the thing where you give everybody you suspect contradictory information and see which version comes out. Tell booster A "keep this on the down low but we're looking at what it would take to get James Franklin", and tell another you're looking at Dan Mullen, and another you're looking at Mike Gundy, etc. Like in Game of Thrones. edit: a "canary trap", that's what it's called General Dog fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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It doesn't make sense for there to be interest from either side, so that's also possible. It's also curious that something like this would leak so early in the season, on a bye week before a big game for Penn State. Most of these types of rumors come out in November-December. The wording of the article is interesting in that A&M is only interested if Sumlin is fired. His seat might be warm (not Butch Jones hot), but he's 4-2 with at least a non terrible loss to Alabama. Could this be an A&M leak as a message to Sumlin? There's also this take: https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/12/16465354/james-franklin-texas-a-m-coach-search-rumors Komet fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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Komet posted:It doesn't make sense for there to be interest from either side, so that's also possible. It's also curious that something like this would leak so early in the season, on a bye week before a big game for Penn State. Most of these types of rumors come out in November-December. The wording of the article is interesting in that A&M is only interested if Sumlin is fired. His seat might be warm (not Butch Jones hot), but he's 4-2 with at least a non terrible loss to Alabama. Could this be an A&M leak as a message to Sumlin? I think Sumlin knows where he stands already, he's received shots across the bow far more direct than this over the past few months. General Dog fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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Aggy: mediocre in the Big 12, shocked when they continue to be mediocre in SEC.
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Randaconda posted:Aggy: mediocre in the Big 12, shocked when they continue to be mediocre in SEC. Yeah, but now they're part of the SEC, which is better because *checks notes* reasons.
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General Dog posted:Maybe one of the powers that be was looking for the source of an information leak so he did the thing where you give everybody you suspect contradictory information and see which version comes out. Tell booster A "keep this on the down low but we're looking at what it would take to get James Franklin", and tell another you're looking at Dan Mullen, and another you're looking at Mike Gundy, etc. Like in Game of Thrones. Daniek Stern did that to the owners in the NBA right before he retired. Sent a notice to each team with slightly different wording.
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Here's TCU's history of coaches, which is a comedy of error of mediocrity from the mid 1950s until the late 90s. There was no middle ground between "garbage" and "you're here FOREVER": Dutch Meyer (1935-1952): He got the school their natties. He eventually retired to become the AD. Abe Martin (1953-1966): One SWC championship in 1959 before the dark years. Fred Taylor (1967-1970): Fired for going 15-25-1. Jim Pittman (1971): He actually showed promise before he had a heart attack on the sidelines and died during a game against Baylor! Billy Tohill (1971-1973): He nearly died in 1972, but then was fired a year or so later after going 11-15. Fun fact! He was Dabo Swinney's high school coach! Jim Shofner (1974-1976): Shofner went loving 2-31 before somehow finding success in the NFL. He resigned before he could be fired. F.A. Dry (1977-1982): Fired after going 12-51-3. Jim Wacker (1983-1991): Showed promise before it was revealed that TCU was essentially a Pony Express-light style shitshow behind the scenes, but without the on-field success. They suffered through 3 years of probation before delivering a  WINNING SEASON before leaving to coach Minnesota. Overall record of 40-58-2. Pat Sullivan (1992-1997): Went 24-42-1, resigned for sucking hard in the WAC. Dennis Franchione (1998-2000): Coasted on LT's success before bailing to Alabama, which caused TCU to have to rely on some defensive nobody named Gary Patterson in their bowl game that year. 25-10. Overall, 3 coaches were fired, 2 resignations, 1 death, 2 transitions, and 3 god-emperors.
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https://twitter.com/CecilHurt/status/918554039243206656 Sexton isn't Franklin's agent but this is exactly what it is. It's agents stirring up bullshit, nothing more or less.
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He isn’t going anywhere, but it’s exactly what any coach would say if they were
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Komet posted:There's this from 3 minutes ago: I don't get what he's trying to say here
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I interpreted it like this: He grew up in PA and is successful at the school, so why would he want to leave? Of course anything a coach says is meaningless, especially with a piece of human garbage like Franklin.
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Joey Freshwater posted:I don't get what he's trying to say here He's saying people are leaking misinformation to create drama and create doubt for recruits. The list is three reasons that he wouldn't leave Penn State. The way the initial report is phrased (Penn State officials brace for A&M to make a run) makes me think his source isn't even anybody associated with A&M.
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General Dog posted:He's saying people are leaking misinformation to create drama and create doubt for recruits. The list is three reasons that he wouldn't leave Penn State. Thanks, I didn't get what the list was because #1 would be enough to make me want to leave.
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To be fair to Pennsylvania: it's not Ohio.
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Komet posted:To be fair to Pennsylvania: it's not Ohio. OTOH you're out-scoring Ohio 1-0 in "state schools that both enabled and covered up decades of child rape" so....
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Komet posted:To be fair to Pennsylvania: it's not Ohio. Pennsylvania has decent places like ____ and also ____ and who could forget ____
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DJExile posted:OTOH you're out-scoring Ohio 1-0 in "state schools that both enabled and covered up decades of child rape" so.... Steubenville (?)
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DJExile posted:OTOH you're out-scoring Ohio 1-0 in "state schools that both enabled and covered up decades of child rape" so.... I've really enjoyed the strong uptick of lovely 2011 jokes this year
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Roasted Donut posted:I've really enjoyed the strong uptick of lovely 2011 jokes this year This scandal is so young even Jerry Sandusky wouldn't gently caress it yet. It ain't going away for a long time.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:This scandal is so young even Jerry Sandusky wouldn't gently caress it yet. It ain't going away for a long time. I'm pretty sure 6 years would not be off the table.
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Roasted Donut posted:I'm pretty sure 6 years would not be off the table. 
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KKKLIP ART posted:Don’t act like Philly isn’t a rad place Philly doesn't exist culturally, it's kind of weird
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Bad for recruiting? Also bad for recruiting, IMO: Bad coach Butch Jones. I do not want him coaching at UT this is my mild take
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Mistaken For Bacon posted:Bad for recruiting? Is it really that bad for recruiting? Especially when a four star decommits right after the loss today.
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Well that’s why I feel like you fire and hire the new guy ASAP. There’s going to be attrition but the hope is the new guy keeps the kids that are going there because they want to go to the school, not because of any specific coach. Then he also has time to build up his own class.
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swickles posted:Is it really that bad for recruiting? Especially when a four star decommits right after the loss today. Yep. Having Jones finish out the season is awful for recruiting. Everyone knows he is finished, so why would a recruit commit to him. Also firing him now gives you head start on hiring a new coach before other schools. My biggest worry is Jones makes it to a bowl game and beats another Big 10 team. He then fires his OC to show the university that change is coming and they give him another year. If that happens expect several transfers, and a depleted roster for the 2019 coach. Fire him now.
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