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BarronsArtGallery posted:Are you sure they didn't just use a vague big bad villain with an open backstory yet somewhat similar in look/feel to Palpatine, and that you're ascribing all the poo poo that happened way after the screenplay was written to masterful film making? Who said anything about "masterful film making"?
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I’m not sure which is weirder: that you believe I’m praising the TFA script, or that you believe “Trump = Hitler-Satan” is masterful storytelling. I'm saying you're praising the script and film for predicting all of these things when the fact of the matter is all of these things happened after the film was made and you're making erroneous connections because of hindsight.
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BarronsArtGallery posted:I'm saying you're praising the script and film for predicting all of these things when the fact of the matter is all of these things happened after the film was made and you're making erroneous connections because of hindsight. He wasn't praising the film, though.
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Lord Krangdar posted:He wasn't praising the film, though. Ok. Substitute "praising" for "attributing this thing to"
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Oct 13, 2017 00:45
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Just watched the trailer and other than the porg, it looks sweet. It's a shame Abrams is coming back to direct the third one.
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Brother Entropy posted:i really don't get why so many people are latching onto the porg as a complaint Disney trying to manufacture artificial cuteness with entirely arbitrary modifiers
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Brother Entropy posted:i really don't get why so many people are latching onto the porg as a complaint
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Brother Entropy posted:i really don't get why so many people are latching onto the porg as a complaint The whole thing is a Porg.
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Brother Entropy posted:i really don't get why so many people are latching onto the porg as a complaint Combination of it being overhyped and actually ugly in spite of them transparently trying to make it as cute as possible.
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Taintrunner posted:Disney trying to manufacture artificial cuteness with entirely arbitrary modifiers the whole dang movie is disney trying to manufacture emotions prior movies have given us with arbitrary modifiers to shake things up, what makes the porg so special
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Brother Entropy posted:the whole dang movie is disney trying to manufacture emotions prior movies have given us with arbitrary modifiers to shake things up, what makes the porg so special Biggest gap between intention and result.
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Please stop disrespecting Porg.
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Brother Entropy posted:the whole dang movie is disney trying to manufacture emotions prior movies have given us with arbitrary modifiers to shake things up, what makes the porg so special Well, you're asking the wrong person, because I agree with this statement, but at the same time, there was nothing in the original trilogy trying to be "cute" outside of the Ewoks and we all know how well that bombed
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Other reasons that just occurred to me: - Funko Pop eyes - Snout like a pug's unhealthy mutant one - Vaguely reminiscent of Lando's Mexican alien friend from Return of the Jedi
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The 'studio meddling' narrative is easy. O_o drat HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I like Rian Johnson! O_0 daaaamn BarronsArtGallery posted:I'm saying you're praising the script and film for predicting all of these things when the fact of the matter is all of these things happened after the film was made and you're making erroneous connections because of hindsight. It didn't predict poo poo. That thesis is obvious nonsense - it's as though they "successfully" predicted Hitler seizing the chancellery thanks to his strong support from the African immigrant population in Germany
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Vaguely reminiscent of Lando's Mexican alien friend from Return of the Jedi Nien Nunb was Puerto Rican. Same as Manny Bothans.
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euphronius posted:Ewoks didn't bomb Ewoks own because they killed people.
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Taintrunner posted:Well, you're asking the wrong person, because I agree with this statement, but at the same time, there was nothing in the original trilogy trying to be "cute" outside of the Ewoks and we all know how well that bombed well the better comparison would be bb-8 and i don't remember people hating on it
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Ewoks own because they killed people. They also deliver one of the only effective emotional beats in that movie outside of the Luke/Vader stuff.
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Porgs are a product of Rian Johnson seeing a flock of puffins on Skellig Michael and thinking "Hey maybe we should have those but Star Wars"quote:“Are you sick of them yet?” Johnson asks with a laugh. The porgs, he explains, were inspired by the actual puffins that inhabit Skellig Michael, the island off the coast of Ireland that served as the location for Luke’s hermitage. “I was like, ‘Oh, this is part of the island; we need to find the Star Wars version of this,” the director explains. “And then just story-wise — not that they play a big part in the story — but I knew I wanted to find any source of comic relief I could on the island. And so they were very useful in terms of that.” Also they're apparently hunted for food by the lizard-bird nuns 
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Brother Entropy posted:well the better comparison would be bb-8 and i don't remember people hating on it That's probably because BB-8 actually is kind of cute.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Ewoks own because they killed people. Also they were ugly as gently caress. Cross-Section posted:Also they're apparently hunted for food by the lizard-bird nuns Porg chops.
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General Dog posted:Brick and Looper are both just okay I agree with this statement. I was baffled by Rian Johnson's popularity when I researched his body of work: essentially those two slightly above average films and "the Fly" episode of Breaking Bad which honest-to-God is the only episode of the show that I skip when I re-watch. Later I realized it was his down-to-earth relatability as a common nerd that won people over.
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I can't believe people still have hangups on "Fly." I think you're actively crazy if you think that's a "useless" episode.
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Thinking much about The Fly either way seems weird to me. Like it's on the gimmickier side for BB but otherwise it's a solid, smart episode in a show that is mostly smart and solid.
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BarronsArtGallery posted:I'm saying you're praising the script and film for predicting all of these things when the fact of the matter is all of these things happened after the film was made and you're making erroneous connections because of hindsight. I didn’t say anything about prediction; TFA predicted a Clinton presidency. That’s perhaps why the sequel is doing an immediate about-face and saying, nope, the Resistance actually lost. TFA is now, retroactively, the story of how “it wasn’t that embarrassing! It could have been a lot worse!” But the film still argues that Trump is this megahitler totalitarian figure, when the truth is that he’s just an inept racist grandpa, surreptitiously missing the brake pedal and crashing into a wal-mart.
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I don't know, nuking something, acting all smug about it, and then immediately getting counter nuked might turn out to be prescient.
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porfiria posted:I don't know, nuking something, acting all smug about it, and then immediately getting counter nuked might turn out to be prescient. I fuckin the wish the Resistance were a pure expression of the Juche ideal.
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I agree with this statement. I was baffled by Rian Johnson's popularity when I researched his body of work: essentially those two slightly above average films and "the Fly" episode of Breaking Bad which honest-to-God is the only episode of the show that I skip when I re-watch. Later I realized it was his down-to-earth relatability as a common nerd that won people over. He also directed "Ozymandias". Even if his body of work isn't super substantial, what he has done is vastly more interesting than the filmographies of Abrams or Trevorrow (RIP).
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I didn’t say anything about prediction; TFA predicted a Clinton presidency. Wait the Resistance lost between the first and second movies? Also is it actually called the Resistance? That's ridiculous.
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Brother Entropy posted:well the better comparison would be bb-8 and i don't remember people hating on it I hated BB-8 because it was, like everything else in TFA, a lovely rehash of something from the original trilogy
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Wait the Resistance lost between the first and second movies? All faction names from now on will be based on Muse songs. Next movie we're gonna have The Absolution fight a Supermassive Black Hole.
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Taintrunner posted:I hated BB-8 because it was, like everything else in TFA, a lovely rehash of something from the original trilogy A great rehash you mean. Because, sure BB8 is derivative, but he's fun and a great addition. Are you mad because children growing up in the 2020ies will think of BB8 when someone talks about the "funny robot from Star Wars" instead of R2D2?
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The Cameo posted:I'll be damned. I suppose JJ might have asked for a delay because of Ford's leg and got turned down then and I just separated out the two things (so I must have heard of them separately and just never linked the two). It's all three year old hearsay and whatnot. I do know that the delay didn't happen because Disney made promises to shareholders and partners based on Star Wars being out in the world before 2015 ended, since I was working for a retailer at the time and Disney was coordinating shipments back in like March of that year and sending signage to every possible establishment in June. Everything from the coordination on was "the full marketing push is going to be Christmas", which would line up pretty well with that release date being the unalterable plan. Pretty sure The Last Jedi was originally scheduled, early on, for a May release, and it got pushed back when Disney liked what Rian was doing and wanted to give him a bit more time.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Wait the Resistance lost between the first and second movies? The New Republic is liberals, the First Order are a weird mix of North Korea and homegrown nazis, the Resistance is antifa.
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