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JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


Zoro posted:

I like the book too, but I kind of already sympathize with the Church of the Trinity, even if they're likely wackos, for trying to topple the Rulers. I mean, when you got a class of "elites" who control all information and literally refer to themselves with the names of greek gods, then, yeah, gonna side with the guys trying to topple them automatically.

For sure.

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Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

Chinston Wurchill posted:

The Autumnlands?

There are probably others that fit the bill, though.

the gently caress is happening with this anyway? i was really liking it as a lord of light type comic but then it just stopped and it's been for loving ever.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
Busiek has been having health problems for years and his output has been sporadic in general. I'd assume that's it but I can't say for sure.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/MichelFiffe/status/918123841678913536

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe

Did someone time travel forward from 1990 and decided to release the comic they were working on now?

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Dont the xmen have enough books already

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
i'm down for that

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Has anyone continued reading Copra? Did Michel Fiffe wrap it up? I read the first two TPBs, as a fellow fan of John Ostrander's Suicide Squad, but I wish I liked Copra more than I did.

It's interesting that all these indie guys like Fiffe and Ed Piskor love Liefeld so much. I wouldn't be surprised if Tom Scioli is a Liefeld fan too. I'm guessing they're all around the same age.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

Chinston Wurchill posted:

Busiek has been having health problems for years and his output has been sporadic in general. I'd assume that's it but I can't say for sure.

dang. thanks.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

The way I see it Busieks inconsistency is the price we pay for his goodness

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

Has anyone continued reading Copra? Did Michel Fiffe wrap it up? I read the first two TPBs, as a fellow fan of John Ostrander's Suicide Squad, but I wish I liked Copra more than I did.

It's interesting that all these indie guys like Fiffe and Ed Piskor love Liefeld so much. I wouldn't be surprised if Tom Scioli is a Liefeld fan too. I'm guessing they're all around the same age.
Fiffe and Piskor are 37 and 35. Looking at a picture of Scioli I'd say he's a bit younger, but hard to say. In any case, that would put the latter two at just about the right age to have been picking up Liefeld stuff in his prime, so it's not really a shock.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Endless Mike posted:

Fiffe and Piskor are 37 and 35. Looking at a picture of Scioli I'd say he's a bit younger, but hard to say. In any case, that would put the latter two at just about the right age to have been picking up Liefeld stuff in his prime, so it's not really a shock.

I figured as much, since I'm 39 and I feel like I share their cultural touchstones and influences.

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe
Does anyone else read Jim Zub's Wayward, published by Image comics? It's really loving good. Reminds me of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, American Gods, and teenage superheroes. It's about a half-Irish, half-Japanese girl who goes to live with her mother in Japan and gets wrapped up in a supernatural conflict spanning centuries. The art is solid, but nothing amazing. The story and characters and worldbuilding is what got me hooked. I also really like the appendixes. This dude research a lot for the book and has a ton to say about mythology, the supernatural, and crazy poo poo about foreign nations (like how Japan has a literally fascist remnant in their police force and its very, very loving hard to avoid going to jail if you end up in court). Though, on that last one, I do feel he overstates how much modern people buy into mythology.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I was home sick the last couple days and used the time laying in bed to read some of my backlog. Not a whole lot, but a little.

Finished up Head Lopper vol. 1 and thought it was a lot of fun. Art is gorgeous and the story is really fun with great action sequences and some good bits of comedy. Highly recommend.

Read Paper Girls vol. 1 and I'm angry at myself for sleeping on that. I'm going to order the rest of the trades that are out already and probably catch up on floppies. I had no idea what it was actually going to be about and it didn't go anywhere that I was expecting. Plus beautiful art by Cliff Chiang.

Finished off with Snotgirl vol. 1 and woof that was not at all something I was into. No one in the book was likable at all, and the pacing felt really manic and disjointed (though I get that's probably intended to make it feel like Lottie's mental state). The art was okay, but nothing really to write home about.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Paper Girls is absurdly good, it taps into that same emotional vein that makes Stranger Things so enjoyable.

space pope
Apr 5, 2003

I really like spy seal. The art stood out to me and it was a surprising mix of cold war politics and lighthearted hijinx so far.

I also enjoyed scales and scoundrels. It's a fun light hearted fantasy adventure with a lot of diverse female characters.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

people keep dying in invincible

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
so i just read maestro #1. i enjoyed it but the full frontal gratuitous nudity involving a ten inch dick and the (slightly less obscene in that the specific mechanics were not in view) sex scene make me leery. then again god is dead had a bunch of stuff that made many pages look like a porn comic and the stories being told remained serious.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

So apparently Nonplayer is getting a movie adaptation. Maybe the third issue will be out by the time 25th anniversary Blu-Ray comes out for it.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Question for anyone reading Stray Bullets.

In the last issue, Sunshine & Roses #28, Orson's bananas were just in his imagination, right? What exactly was he eating instead that everyone was puking over? Just sausages getting more and more rotten?

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Oct 30, 2017

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



IShallRiseAgain posted:

So apparently Nonplayer is getting a movie adaptation. Maybe the third issue will be out by the time 25th anniversary Blu-Ray comes out for it.

Hey at least we'll finally get a complete story!

Iggles
Nov 24, 2004

By Jove! Commoners!

IShallRiseAgain posted:

So apparently Nonplayer is getting a movie adaptation. Maybe the third issue will be out by the time 25th anniversary Blu-Ray comes out for it.

I rather suspect that this will only happen if Ready Player One does really well.

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
I felt bad when the Nonplayer guy said on Twitter that because he's taken so long to make the comic all the interesting things he has to say have already shown up in stuff like Westworld and Black Mirror.

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe
So, I'm catching up on Invincible because it's ending and I thought I'd see it all through. I'm on issue 35. So, anyone else weirded out at the hints of a Human-Robo/Monster Girl relationship? Like, she has the boy of what looks like a 14 year old explicitly in the text. It's all...weird.

Lencho
Mar 16, 2012

Zoro posted:

So, I'm catching up on Invincible because it's ending and I thought I'd see it all through. I'm on issue 35. So, anyone else weirded out at the hints of a Human-Robo/Monster Girl relationship? Like, she has the boy of what looks like a 14 year old explicitly in the text. It's all...weird.

It gets weirder...in a bad way.

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe

Lencho posted:

It gets weirder...in a bad way.

Oh...oh no...oh dear god no. Should I abort?

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Every time someone does a deep dive into Invincible, they come back with new reasons for me to never start.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Zoro posted:

Oh...oh no...oh dear god no. Should I abort?

It's a Kirkman comic so yes.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Man, if that's what you've latched onto as objectionable in Invincible you should definitely bail now, because there's always more and it's always worse.

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe

Kwyndig posted:

Man, if that's what you've latched onto as objectionable in Invincible you should definitely bail now, because there's always more and it's always worse.

I mean, pedophilia is objectionable and hosed up. I think it makes sense to latch onto that as bad.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Watching the public opinion on Invincible in real time is like a super extended version of the TV Funhouse Shazzang skit

Lencho
Mar 16, 2012

Zoro posted:

Oh...oh no...oh dear god no. Should I abort?

Nah, but you should be aware that it is after all, a Kirkman comic. The man only writes misery porn.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
I think if you've read the first twelve issues of Invincible, you've really gotten the best out of it. It starts with some pretty great classic superhero fare, then pulls off a truly shocking swerve, which might be one of the top ten plot twists of all time as far as that goes.

As it continues, however, it keeps running into the same problem: Kirkman doesn't seem to know how to raise the stakes without massive amounts of bloodshed and destruction. He does very good character moments, and the Mark/Eve relationship is realistically rocky in a way that not a lot of writers would've taken on, but the action scenes tend to involve large amounts of graphic violence that don't really serve any purpose besides gore porn. In fact, there are at least two characters in the supporting cast who have power sets that I assume are there explicitly because they can be the targets of that violence without actually dying from it.

The whole thing ends up having this odd quality that I associate with self-consciously edgy fanfiction, where it mocks a bright, colorful universe by suddenly introducing adult elements that dramatically clash with the original material. That isn't necessarily a bad thing if it's done well enough, i.e. Matthew Mercer's web-series "There Will Be Brawl," but Invincible goes too dark too early and never really recovers.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Zoro posted:

I mean, pedophilia is objectionable and hosed up. I think it makes sense to latch onto that as bad.

its okay because its really a 2000 year old demon in thNO CARRIER

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe
I'm going to say this, it does slightly make it less creepy that human-robo is also biologically 14 years old. Like, the clone only could be aged that far so they're both older people in young people bodies. BUT there is still that creep factor that both of them recognized about dating someone who had a kid's body, even if they had one too. Though, at the same time, admitting "who else can we date when we look like this?"

It's the least bad solution to problem that didn't need to exist for an icky element that no one needed added to their cape comic.

In summary, why? Just loving why? I was pretty okay with things up to this point?

Want to deal with the mother going into a suicidal alcoholism? Dark, but appropriate considering.

Want to do a lot of gore? Meh, whatever.

Want to have bad things happen to good people like being turned into reanimen? Par for the course for capes, really.

But, why put in that hosed up "I may look 10, but am actually 10,000 year olds" crap from pedophile moe anime?

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Teenage Fansub posted:

Question for anyone reading Stray Bullets.

In the last issue, Sunshine & Roses #28, Orson's bananas were just in his imagination, right? What exactly was he eating instead that everyone was puking over? Just sausages getting more and more rotten?

Yeah, that was my reading of it too. I figured he was reloading the empty banana peel with sausage links and chowing down which was grossing everyone out.

I'm loving Derek. I wonder if Lapham is a fan of Peter Jackson's Bad Taste.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Über Invasion 9 is out. Some proper nazi-killing in this one.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Is it doing the weird thing where its in print a week before the digital?

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Yeah and again nobody is sure why.

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Yeah even Gillen seems annoyed about it in his newsletter.

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