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Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/918837656779358208

Remember when people said DJT would be a better friend to the LGBT Community than HRC. Yeah, gently caress those people.

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UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
"gay"

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/918837656779358208

Remember when people said DJT would be a better friend to the LGBT Community than HRC. Yeah, gently caress those people.
Because the main things gays fear is RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM, right?

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008



I was wondering why gay was in quotes but not lesbian

Casimir Radon posted:

Because the main things gays fear is RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM, right?

Yeah, I loved that concern trolling from the Right that the LGBT community should be more afraid of that than being fired or having health care.

Nick Soapdish fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Oct 13, 2017

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/918862501000888320

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/918864768382808064

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Wait so he’s lifting sanctions to add more sanctions?

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Nick Soapdish posted:

I was wondering why gay was in quotes but not lesbian


Yeah, I loved that concern trolling from the Right that the LGBT community should be more afraid of that than being fired or having health care.

' lesbians, heterosexuals, and youths are increasingly at risk by imitating "gay" practices '

i don't think they know what a lesbian is

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Nick Soapdish posted:

Yeah, I loved that concern trolling from the Right that the LGBT community should be more afraid of that than being fired or having health care.
Or being murderes by a white guy. I can't recall the last time a Muslim murdered any gay people in the US.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Casimir Radon posted:

Or being murderes by a white guy. I can't recall the last time a Muslim murdered any gay people in the US.

There was a somewhat newsworthy one last year, but I guess that's about a decade in Trump Time.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
'The Taliban Can't Win,' Says Commander Of U.S. Forces In Afghanistan



quote:

He has spent more time in Afghanistan, in various jobs, than any other senior American officer — a total of 5 1/2 years. The commander of NATO's Resolute Support mission and U.S. forces in Afghanistan since March 2016, Nicholson is a genial West Point graduate with salt-and-pepper hair — and a renewed confidence.

That is because the White House has given him more authority to attack the Taliban, more warplanes and drones to mount punishing airstrikes — and a few thousand more American troops to advise the Afghans.

...

Maybe more importantly, the troop drawdowns and deadlines set by the Obama administration are no more. Conditions on the ground, success against the Taliban, will be the new metric as the U.S. enters the 17th year of its war in Afghanistan.

Doing away with deadlines, says Nicholson, "is absolutely critical" because the Taliban can no longer just wait until the Americans leave.

Also critical is what Nicholson calls the "Pakistan piece."

That is shorthand for getting rid of the Taliban safe havens in Pakistan, just across the border. What is uncertain is how this will happen, though some officials in Washington suggest possible U.S. military action — likely drone strikes — against these safe havens if Pakistan doesn't move to eliminate them.

...

Nicholson says the goal is to get Afghanistan to "a manageable level of violence."

The key, he says, is not to eliminate all violence, but to bring it to a level at which it can be finally controlled by Afghan government forces.

When will that level be achieved? Nicholson says it will take about five years.

I'm waiting for the announcement that the new metric of success is kill ratios and that there will be troops sent into Pakistan.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Pesticide20 posted:

'The Taliban Can't Win,' Says Commander Of U.S. Forces In Afghanistan



I'm waiting for the announcement that the new metric of success is kill ratios and that there will be troops sent into Pakistan.

16 years later....

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

The cool thing about a professional military is you can do Vietnam again and no one notices or cares.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


RFC2324 posted:

' lesbians, heterosexuals, and youths are increasingly at risk by imitating "gay" practices '

i don't think they know what a lesbian is

Of course they do. It's a kind of porno. Duhhh :rolleye:

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

British, and Russians;

Hey guys Afghanistan is like slamming your dick in a car door it really sucks and nobody can win, you should try to get out with as much grace and dignity as you can.

America

*SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM*

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Current Event: Blade runner 2049 is a good and cool movie.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Best Friends posted:

The cool thing about a professional military is you can do Vietnam again and no one notices or cares.

As long as they don't reintroduce the draft, the average American won't give a poo poo about how many troops die in whatever godforsaken shithole America has stuck its dick into, other than the token yellow ribbon magnet on a car bumper.

That's the lesson the government learned from Vietnam, they can do whatever the gently caress they want, as long as they don't bring back the draft.

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

I'm amazed the most the longest any "senior American officer" has spent in Afghanistan is only 5.5 years.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Blind Rasputin posted:

Wait so he’s lifting sanctions to add more sanctions?

the IRGC eminently deserves sanctions and they do not conflict with the P5+1 deal.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

The Iron Rose posted:

the IRGC eminently deserves sanctions and they do not conflict with the P5+1 deal.

Yeah but it's absolutely gonna piss off even moderate Iranians and help collapse the loving deal.

Trump just said that unless he gets a new deal that is permanent and has other certain parameters, he is going to decertify the Iran nuclear deal. He says that he is currently working with allies, but no one, especially Russia is going to renegotiate. Europe has many companies already doing business with Iranian partners, and they're not going to want to renege on any of those deals because of the economic benefit.

Trump is basically bluffing that he's going to decertify Iran in order to get a better deal, but there is no better deal, there will never be a better deal, and all he is going to do is piss off our allies and gently caress over all of the moderates in Iran.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41613314

Hooray, Donnie dumbfuck is at it again.

"President Trump has condemned Iran as a "fanatical regime" and refused to continue certifying an international nuclear deal."

Pine Cone Jones fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Oct 13, 2017

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
https://open.spotify.com/episode/72XxzzHFLcpgQwKr1SxMhY

A Pod Save the World episode from Feb 2017 about the Iran nuke talks. Really interesting and great info.

Another great episode where Tommy talks with former Deputy Secretary of State Bill Burns, where he talks a lot about the Iran deal.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2r4W5QkUfKBkgLeIug6K5n

Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Oct 13, 2017

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
yeah this is absolutely the best deal we're going to ever get with Iran and we're going to torpedo it because a bunch of baby boomers are still mad about the embassy

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Proud Christian Mom posted:

yeah this is absolutely the best deal we're going to ever get with Iran and we're going to torpedo it because a bunch of baby boomers are still mad about the embassy
The coup was a long time ago, forget about it already:haw:

It's probably less about the embassy and more about idiots who got their already feeble brains broken by 9/11, ans couldn't find Iran on a map.

Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Oct 13, 2017

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009
Air quality is loving awful in downtown, was even worse out towards Dublin/Pleasanton earlier today.

Vineyards and storage houses are toast, weed farms are burning. SFO is a backed up mess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/us/california-fires-marijuana.html?ribbon-ad-idx=2&rref=us

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

I have to fly out of SFO in a few hours. :suicide:

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

tastefully arranged labia posted:

I have to fly out of SFO in a few hours. :suicide:

I had a direct out at 5pm tonight, that they cancelled at 4am this morning. I rescheduled to a 10am flight tomorrow, but might even try for a 6am. Half my team is stranded on the other side of the fires and is thinking of just driving home to Omaha rather than wait.

I'm going to spend tonight at a cigar bar I know downtown called Occidental. If I'm forced to inhale smoke, it might as well be the flavorful kind.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
GREAT NEWS EVERYONE

http://iswresearch.blogspot.com/2017/10/return-of-signature-iranian-explosive.html?m=1

Return of Signature Iranian Explosive Could Signal Escalation in Iraq

Institute for the Study of War posted:

Key Takeaway: The return of a signature Iranian explosive device in Iraq could indicate that Iran may already have escalated against U.S. forces in Iraq either to deter the roll out of a new US strategy against Iran, or to retaliate against it. 

President Trump has signaled his intent to decertify the Iranian nuclear agreement and is scheduled to announce a new counter-Iran strategy today. Iranian officials have signaled that Iran may take military action against US forces in the region if the U.S. takes harsh steps against Iran such as designating Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) as a terrorist organization. Iranian proxies in Iraq that once fought against the US have also repeatedly signaled their intent to oust US forces from Iraq after defeating ISIS. The spokesman for Katai'b Hezbollah stated that "we look at America as our first enemy" in early 2017, for example. Iran is most likely to use its proxies to escalate in Iraq, where US forces are vulnerable. 

A high-end Iranian signature weapon, an Explosively Formed Penetrator (EFP), killed U.S. soldier Specialist Alexander W. Missildine and wounded another soldier on a major road in Iraq's Salahuddin Province on October 1st. The U.S. military is still investigating the origin of the explosive. Yet Iran is the likely perpetrator. The EFP is a high-end explosive device that Iran previously provided to its proxies in Iraq to kill U.S. soldiers during the Iraq War. Iranian-provided EFPs killed nearly 200 US soldiers and wounded over 800 from 2005-2011 according to figures declassified by US Central Command.  

ISW and CTP forecasted in September 2017 that Iran may opt for a "most dangerous" course of action in the next six months and order its proxy forces in Iraq to attack US personnel or contractors in Iraq. The use of an EFP against US soldiers in Iraq could indicate the start of this Iranian path of escalation.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
The new Iran thing is really weird.

Donnie made up bullshit to not certify, but didn't pull out or reimpose sanctions, so now it's in Congress. Meanwhile Donnie is threatening a full pullout if Congress doesn't do anything. By the way, Congress isn't going to do anything.

Israel is like HELL YEAH WE LOVE TRUMP while everyone else in the international community is sitting there confused because Iran definitely didn't violate the agreement. Americans are just pissed that Iran is being Iran, which is allowed because Iran isn't developing nukes. Trump is just mad because BAD DEAL OBAMA BAD

Meanwhile, Trump is barking that his actions will make sure Iran never gets a nuke, while his actions are practically ensuring that Iran goes and develops a nuke for defense.

Clusterfucky.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Immanentized posted:

I had a direct out at 5pm tonight, that they cancelled at 4am this morning. I rescheduled to a 10am flight tomorrow, but might even try for a 6am. Half my team is stranded on the other side of the fires and is thinking of just driving home to Omaha rather than wait.

I'm going to spend tonight at a cigar bar I know downtown called Occidental. If I'm forced to inhale smoke, it might as well be the flavorful kind.

Just checked and I got lucky- only a 40 minute delay. My plane is in the air coming in now. It looks like they're not delaying outbounds, just the inbounds.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

This is SFO's problem. That's an inbound flight path.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

facialimpediment posted:

Israel is like HELL YEAH WE LOVE TRUMP while everyone else in the international community is sitting there confused because Iran definitely didn't violate the agreement. Americans are just pissed that Iran is being Iran, which is allowed because Iran isn't developing nukes.

I mean, yes and no. Iran being Iran isn't enough to torpedo the deal, nor should it. But Iran being Iran still violates international law (yes, I know, Saudis, war crimes, gently caress off). Not only are we are eminently in our rights to impose sanctions on the IRGC, but it's something that should have been done a decade ago.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

I just want to be allies with Iran and enemies of Turkey and the Saudis

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Also I want to vacation to Iran eventually

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

I just want to be allies with Iran and enemies of Turkey and the Saudis
That, and I want us to stop returning Israel's calls unless they make some big changes.

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band

Casimir Radon posted:

That, and I want us to stop returning Israel's calls unless they make some big changes.

The biggest change being they need to stop returning our calls until we get rid of the Nazi sympathizing Russian puppets in the executive branch.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
I can't properly express how repulsed and disgusted I am at the actions the Trump administration has taken over the last week.

I haven't felt this low since around the inauguration.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Thwomp posted:

I can't properly express how repulsed and disgusted I am at the actions the Trump administration has taken over the last week.

I haven't felt this low since around the inauguration.

I say something like this at the end of every week:

Next week you won't even remember what he did this week.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
pro tier is when you don't even remember what he did today

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

Also I want to vacation to Iran eventually

And meet some of the Persian locals :heysexy:

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Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

I just want to be allies with Iran and enemies of Turkey and the Saudis

Iranians were bluejean-wearing cosmopolitan party animals once, and with luck will be again in our lifetimes.*






*Your lifetimes rather, I'm old as gently caress

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