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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Irritated Goat posted:

Hah! My company is anti-cloud. They want everything on prem including the chat option I've been pushing since I got here. Why? Possible data breaches. You know, the ones we'll still get cause we run some 2003 servers and non-Enterprise Windows 7 and a laundry list of other issues.

"We can't go into the cloud because it's not secure!"

Says the company where their only line of defense is some antivirus software they pay for and a lovely UTM that the sales person said would keep things safe.

Irritated Goat posted:

The best part is, my boss admitted there's a low chance of moving off those 14 year old OS until MS hits EOL in 2020 :sigh:

That's only really two years away, seems like the sort of migration that should be in the planning stages already.

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Mr. Clark2
Sep 17, 2003

Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

Head of the agency has decided that he wants to have a mandatory, standardized, enforced email signature agency-wide. We're using Office365 so this is not really that difficult from an IT standpoint, it's quite easy to do.
I get started on the stuff that I need to do on my end and he gives me a template for the signature that he wants used...it's loving hideous. It's like 6 different lines, way too much info, has graphics, italics, different fonts, etc.
I try to see if he's willing to simplify it and remove some of the unnecessary info but nope, he's not hearing it, he wants it exactly like his own signature. So now I've got to figure out how to apply it to everyone but me.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Hey dumbshit you asked for this demo and not only are you going to be late you forgot that there are three other people standing by that you asked to attend. Sure glad you're the new COO, you can't-operate-a-goddamn-thing no account motherfucker.

Also: FRIDAY! :toot:

EDIT: And now he's not going to attend at all. :laugh:

Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Oct 13, 2017

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
If you attempt to cold-call me by sending me a meeting request via email, there is no way in hell I am going to respond to you. I might just accept your meeting request to waste your time. gently caress you.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

anthonypants posted:

If you attempt to cold-call me by sending me a meeting request via email, there is no way in hell I am going to respond to you. I might just accept your meeting request to waste your time. gently caress you.

You should respond back, ask for double the time, and then not show up.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
We had a test scheduled for a new edge router config today at 1PM with consult from someone in another department. I have put in my notice and am relocating alongside taking a new job, so I was going to spend today off work traveling to the new city to scout apartments because the new job wanted me to start Oct 30th--but instead came in to do this edge router test, which is really my final project to do here. Boss never showed. Consult never showed. At 1:45 I said gently caress it and left, to call and set up more showings for next Thursday and Friday. I know that they're going to want to do the test next Friday at the same time (it's a convenient window), but gently caress em.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Dick Trauma posted:

Hey dumbshit you asked for this demo and not only are you going to be late you forgot that there are three other people standing by that you asked to attend. Sure glad you're the new COO, you can't-operate-a-goddamn-thing no account motherfucker.

Also: FRIDAY! :toot:

EDIT: And now he's not going to attend at all. :laugh:


anthonypants posted:

If you attempt to cold-call me by sending me a meeting request via email, there is no way in hell I am going to respond to you. I might just accept your meeting request to waste your time. gently caress you.

:ohdear:

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
The COO quietly appeared on the call about five minutes in, remained silent for 30 minutes and then finally spoke up to ask a poo poo-all stupid question that flummoxed the vendor so badly I had to step in and answer for him.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Don’t hold out, what was the question?

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

My co-worker just can't comprehend Telnet. All he needs to do is log in, put in a 4 word command, and logout. I wrote a detailed guide. I have already guided him over the phone two separate times.

He just called me again.

I am now going to murder him.

Edit: And now it is 3:30pm on a Friday, otherwise known as 'i-give-no-fucks-o-clock', so my phone will be mysteriously broken for the remainder of the day. Sucks for the 4 separate people who called in the last 5 minutes.

Peachfart fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Oct 13, 2017

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Maybe they’re struggling to understand the use of telnet in 2017

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Thanks Ants posted:

Maybe they’re struggling to understand the use of telnet in 2017

or why this isn't scripted, if its the exact same command every time. maybe even as a cron job?

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

These are on site technicians at customer locations, and they are changing a port that can only be changed using Telnet due to our engineering being retarded assholes.
At least this is another reason for me to leave.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Peachfart posted:

These are on site technicians at customer locations, and they are changing a port that can only be changed using Telnet due to our engineering being retarded assholes.
At least this is another reason for me to leave.

whip up a quick expect script

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7013137/automating-telnet-session-using-bash-scripts

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017


Looking into this I am uncertain if this will work on a Windows machine. But scripting was on my next list of 'things I really need to learn', so sounds like a fun project.
Edit: Yeah, since the IP address of the machine that would need to be logged into could be anything, I would need to make an Expect script in that example. And that only works if I install a Expect package onto the tech's computer, because Windows. But I like the suggestion and am looking into it.

Peachfart fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Oct 14, 2017

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Peachfart posted:

Looking into this I am uncertain if this will work on a Windows machine. But scripting was on my next list of 'things I really need to learn', so sounds like a fun project.
Edit: Yeah, since the IP address of the machine that would need to be logged into could be anything, I would need to make an Expect script in that example. And that only works if I install a Expect package onto the tech's computer, because Windows. But I like the suggestion and am looking into it.

If you can do it, Bash on Windows is super nice, and will let you run any kind of script like this. Good luck getting it installed in the first place tho

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

RFC2324 posted:

If you can do it, Bash on Windows is super nice, and will let you run any kind of script like this. Good luck getting it installed in the first place tho

I just wrote a script using VBScript(don't laugh, it was the only scripting language I could find that would call the built in Telnet client) and it works 'fine' as a .VBS but I was hoping to use HTA to let me make multiple input boxes but it seems VBScript inside of HTA files can't execute built in Telnet.

lol

This is fun.

Edit: I might just skip the whole Windows Telnet client and just build something in Python as it seems I can connect through Telnet that way and build it into an executable, I have been planning on learning the language and a few less phone calls a day is worth the time.

Peachfart fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Oct 14, 2017

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Peachfart posted:

I just wrote a script using VBScript(don't laugh, it was the only scripting language I could find that would call the built in Telnet client) and it works 'fine' as a .VBS but I was hoping to use HTA to let me make multiple input boxes but it seems VBScript inside of HTA files can't execute built in Telnet.

lol

This is fun.

Edit: I might just skip the whole Windows Telnet client and just build something in Python as it seems I can connect through Telnet that way and build it into an executable, I have been planning on learning the language and a few less phone calls a day is worth the time.

python is cool and good and you should learn it

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
While PowerShell doesn't have any native API specific to telnet, the telnet protocol is simple enough where you can just use .NET to open a TCP socket on the server. That would look something like this: https://gist.github.com/grantcarthew/6985142

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

anthonypants posted:

While PowerShell doesn't have any native API specific to telnet, the telnet protocol is simple enough where you can just use .NET to open a TCP socket on the server. That would look something like this: https://gist.github.com/grantcarthew/6985142

Hm, this works(though not in ISE for some reason). Now to figure out how to convert it to:
1) Prompt for an IP address, Username, and Password
2) Put those variables in at the appropriate times and then the rest of the commands.

Thanks for the assist, I will dig in.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


MANime in the sheets posted:

in my company it's !!!. DLs, forms, etc. When the NOC revised their list, they gave it one more bang to put it ahead of the helpdesk's.

Our ordering system which DOES suck for the majority has one nice feature where it has two separate part number fields for each part. The OEM one that if I do up a purchase order or need it on the phone, and the bullshit ones we want to make up. It's handy if there are two version of the exact same part with same OEM number so we just put a few letters of the manufacturer into OUR number so when we see it we can order the wigit from whomever has stock/cheapest.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Peachfart posted:

Hm, this works(though not in ISE for some reason). Now to figure out how to convert it to:
1) Prompt for an IP address, Username, and Password
2) Put those variables in at the appropriate times and then the rest of the commands.

Thanks for the assist, I will dig in.

https://poshgui.com/

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

RFC2324 posted:

If you can do it, Bash on Windows is super nice, and will let you run any kind of script like this. Good luck getting it installed in the first place tho

My install was a freaking cakewalk, other than my DSL being slow as balls.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?
In the spirit of ordering systems chat we're getting yet another in-house built tool to record assets and equipment orders, and I curiously conversed with a couple people about why on earth does everything have to be custom built instead of getting a proven off the shelf product?

Case in point there's a staging version up for testing and the first thing I noticed there was no option to record a PO number... which is pretty silly, and had to explain the merits of keeping fields and data standardised early.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

Peachfart posted:

Hm, this works(though not in ISE for some reason). Now to figure out how to convert it to:
The ISE behaves so bizarrely, not to mention it takes 8 hours to load. I abandoned it really quickly after starting to dig in with PS.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


There’s a reason that vs code is now the official recommended ide for power shell, and that development of ise has stopped.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Super Slash posted:

In the spirit of ordering systems chat we're getting yet another in-house built tool to record assets and equipment orders, and I curiously conversed with a couple people about why on earth does everything have to be custom built instead of getting a proven off the shelf product?

Case in point there's a staging version up for testing and the first thing I noticed there was no option to record a PO number... which is pretty silly, and had to explain the merits of keeping fields and data standardised early.

Our new system doesn't have a 'duplicate PO number detection'

This pisses off collections because they have trouble getting people to pay without the right PO.

Customer service 'discovers' this, as rep A and rep B both entered the same order for customer C. How the gently caress does that happen in the first place?

So we do a small customization that makes sure the same customer can't use the same PO number twice.

Another department is pissed off now because customer D always uses 'CREDIT CARD' for the PO number, or something else like the guys name who orders 'JIM BOB'

"That's how we tell the customer paid with a credit card" - instead of, I don't know, going down to 'billing' and looking there?

Next up: Using one field to use many different things. This was a big problem with our old system, and I fought this poo poo along the way so many times.

"Order Type" can be 'service', 'unit', 'parts', 'warranty', 'exchange'

Shipping sees a list of 'part' orders so they box those up and ship em
Production sees a list of 'unit' orders so they build those and ship them out

Who sees the warranty parts? NOBODY

You dumb fucks. I tried explaining that parts/unit/service needs to be one field, and exchange/warranty/regular needs to be another.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Samizdata posted:

My install was a freaking cakewalk, other than my DSL being slow as balls.

i was thinking of the difficulty getting it on the remote technicians machine. both the old and the new way are pretty smooth, tho waiting for your system to update to windows insider for the new way sucks

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

The Fool posted:

There’s a reason that vs code is now the official recommended ide for power shell, and that development of ise has stopped.
Most people aren't even running PS 5.1, why would they use VS Code

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


anthonypants posted:

Most people aren't even running PS 5.1, why would they use VS Code

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/powershell/2017/05/10/announcing-powershell-for-visual-studio-code-1-0/

It’s what the PowerShell team recommends, supports 3.0+, and is better in every other way. So why wouldn’t you?

FWIW, I’m not advocating deploying vs code to every workstation or server. But if you do a lot of PowerShell authoring on your workstation, you owe it to yourself to at least try vs code.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 14, 2017

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

anthonypants posted:

Most people aren't even running PS 5.1, why would they use VS Code

[ASK] me about PS 2.0 on production servers in my multibillion dollar company. :v:

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

The Fool posted:

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/powershell/2017/05/10/announcing-powershell-for-visual-studio-code-1-0/

It’s what the PowerShell team recommends, supports 3.0+, and is better in every other way. So why wouldn’t you?

FWIW, I’m not advocating deploying vs code to every workstation or server. But if you do a lot of PowerShell authoring on your workstation, you owe it to yourself to at least try vs code.
If you do any level of PowerShell, you owe it to yourself to deploy 5.1. And yet,

xsf421 posted:

[ASK] me about PS 2.0 on production servers in my multibillion dollar company. :v:

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

xsf421 posted:

[ASK] me about PS 2.0 on production servers in my multibillion dollar company. :v:

Isn’t that the default on a Windows 2008r2/Exchange 2010 server?

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

Varkk posted:

Isn’t that the default on a Windows 2008r2/Exchange 2010 server?

Yep, we have a couple hundred 2008r2 with PS2.0 and winRM disabled by default.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Is 2008r2 still common in production? (That’s what we have...)

hihifellow
Jun 17, 2005

seriously where the fuck did this genre come from
Holy poo poo I'm angry for this guy by proxy.

I just had to cancel a week long vacation 2 days in and drive back 4 hours for a server incident I fixed remotely because "the CEO needed to see me".

Like how this guy didn't quit on the spot I have no idea.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

I'm on vacation, gently caress you if you think I'm taking a work call. If there was a predefined understanding that the employee was on call or pageable while on PTO then the employee is a dumbass.

I'm pissed for that guy.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Bob Morales posted:

Is 2008r2 still common in production? (That’s what we have...)

All of our servers save two are 2008 r2.

The others are 2016 and... 2008.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Yea we have a couple 16’s. No 03’s though

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DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

He's a loving idiot for going back.

gently caress you I'm on vacation.

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