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Sagebrush posted:One-syllable names, e.g. "Bear", "Frank" are prop-driven, while two-syllable names like "Coaler" or "Fishbed" are jet-powered. Doesn't apply to helicopters obviously. Huh, I knew about every one of these except for this one. There's my one learn-something-new for today thing. 
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So I wonder how often an AN-22 has been been intercepted by MiG-15s.
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As people are posting these: My first flight was with this (probably even this specific plane):  From HEL to either PFO or LCA (I was perhaps 7 at the time). Was the last flight of that plane as well.
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Comrade Gorbash posted:Seeing it laid out like that, it has to be intentional. Only question is, intel analyst prank or dumb CIA psy-op? How many weapon systems have received a NATO code name in the last 60+ years? Hundreds? Thousands? If you take any list of hundreds of words and then reduce it down to a handful I bet you can come up with all kinds of lewd things.
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Murgos posted:How many weapon systems have received a NATO code name in the last 60+ years? Hundreds? Thousands? If you take any list of hundreds of words and then reduce it down to a handful I bet you can come up with all kinds of lewd things. That being said, I'm also sure if someone had suggested using emasculating code names for Soviet hardware as a psy-op, the cold war intelligence agencies would have been all over it.
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Sagebrush posted:K for anti-ship missiles, because the Russians initially classified these missiles with an X, for eXperimental, but the cyrillic X is transliterated as Kh, and NATO picked that because what would an international standard be without one batshit out-of-nowhere spec that doesn't follow any of the logic Experimental in Russian is экспериментальный, eksperimentalnij, so it makes more sense to me that they just used that K. What you describe would be a corkscrew process of taking the Russian word, translating it, taking the second letter from the translation, looking what Russian letter it sorta looked like, and then transliterating that. Another source of confusion is that Russian Air-to-surface missiles are designated Kh-[number] in the Russian nomenclature. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/weapons/q0180.shtml Not gonna lie I have no idea whats going on there. e: also for some reason the Shipwreck is the P-700 and at this point I just give up
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Are we still doing the first flight thing? I am... First flight (had to ask my parents) was about 2 months after I was born in December of 83 from CHS to Eugene, OR (no clue where we flew into). Probably Eastern Airlines and aircraft possibilities would include 727/737/DC-9/L1011 per my father and wikipedia and reasonable guesses. First flight I "remember" would have been from CHS to PHX via CLT or ATL on Piedmont, Eastern, Delta, or USAir. These flight continued about every year or so until 1989 when my grandfather passed away. 737s, DC-9s, 757s. It all kind of blends together. Most recent flight was American Airlines A319 from CLT to ORF. Neatest flight that I recall was DFW to AMS on a Northwest Airlines DC-10 in 2003 simply because I'll almost certainly never fly on that type again. That being said, my one and only experience with a 747 (United flight from FRA to IAD. The most surprisingly ok flight (was expecting it to be awful) I took was recently (July) on an American Airlines 757 from PHL to GLA. Handled that transatlantic flight comfortably with nobody sitting next to me in coach. 5ish hours headed to GLA and 6ish headed to PHL. Types flown on that I specifically recall: 717, 727, 737, 747,757, 767, 777, A319, A320, A321, A330, A340, DH8-100, DH8-300, DC-9, DC-10, MD-80 types of many kind (717 included I suppose...), Cessna Grand Caravan, Sabb 340, Sabb 2000, Commander 690B (From Nasa WFF in Wallops, VA to CEU [Oconee County Regional Airport, SC]). Still no 787 or helicopters! I did come close to flying on a UH-1 in 2012 at White Sands Missle Range. I also might be able to score a C-17 flight from WSMR area to HI in the future with my work... we'll see. Airline miles and airport lounges / bars are a bit neater than the inside of a C-17, but it would be a really cool experience.
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First for me would have been back in the late 80s/early 90s. At the time, I wouldn't have recognized what aircraft it would have been. However it was almost certainly USAir and the flights would have been between Pittsburgh and Phoenix. They were always narrow bodies, and I know at least one trip had fuselage mounted engines which would point to an MD-80 or some variant, but it seems like those were in very limited operation with USAir.
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bull3964 posted:First for me would have been back in the late 80s/early 90s. At the time, I wouldn't have recognized what aircraft it would have been. However it was almost certainly USAir and the flights would have been between Pittsburgh and Phoenix. 727 probably. Delta flew them until 2003ish. They were very common at domestic carriers through the 90s. I flew on a lot of planes since before I can remember but what sticks in my memory is the L-1011. The cabin felt huge.
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hobbesmaster posted:I flew on a lot of planes since before I can remember but what sticks in my memory is the L-1011. The cabin felt huge. Try flying on a CAT-B World Airlines charter (all economy, 70s era seats that still reeked of non-filtered cigarettes) on one for 12+ hours from PHL to TER (Lajes in the Azores) to AVB (Aviano AFB) to NSY (NAS Sigonella) - with a layover in Lajes in the middle of the night where we were lawfully forbidden from even setting foot on the airstair (making it quasi-legal to simply stick your head out to get fresh air), then ~2-3 hours on the ground in *school buses* (without A/C) in the middle of an Italian August because the plane needed to refuel, and for some reason they didn't think it was a great idea to let some of us go to the base PX to kill time. It kinda colored my opinion of L-1011s.
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There is a small and not very detailed article on CBC about the St. Helena airport and commercial flights. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/st-helena-hopes-to-shed-world-s-most-useless-airport-nickname-with-1st-commercial-flight-1.4351618 quote:The new flights will be on a smaller 98-seater plane that is able to land on both ends of the runway. In order to do that though, only 76 people will be able to be on board. e: Appears to be an E190 from what I can find slidebite fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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Oct 14, 2017 00:56
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How did Maverick end up in the Air Force!?
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Keith Atherton posted:I have never flown on a 747. My first flight was on a Continental 727 in 1973 just like this Strictly speaking, the plane you flew on in 1973 had a black meatball. The red logo didn't come along until the Texas International merger and Frank Lorenzo's fuckery. 
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slidebite posted:I can't stop staring at his teeth That 'man' is the progeny of Maverick and Iceman slashfic circulated on early BBSes in the late 80s and early 90s. He was of no woman born - he was willed into being.
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vessbot posted:We routinely take kids into the cockpit and give plastic wings. Only at the gate though.  Wingnut Ninja posted:Only on special occasions, like this was for memorial day when they had docents hosting aircraft tours. But they've got extra lighting installed for tours so it obviously wasn't a one time thing.
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Oct 14, 2017 04:47
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block51 posted:Are we still doing the first flight thing? I am... That’s really cool bro do you like trains?
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vessbot posted:We routinely take kids into the cockpit and give plastic wings. Only at the gate though. Until one of those kids Googles how to key 7500 into the transponder.
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Arson Daily posted:That’s really cool bro do you like trains?
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My buddies and I got plastic wings from a fight attendant lady on a Southwest flight in like 1996 when we were in our twenties Southwest was cool - not sure if they still are
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Keith Atherton posted:My buddies and I got plastic wings from a fight attendant lady on a Southwest flight in like 1996 when we were in our twenties Cooler than the bigger ones, maybe not THAT cool. My first flight, more recent (2006) but the airline is dead and gone nonetheless:   747 is big, I was on the third or fourth floor:  Then I got on a 737 in the modern way and continued to my destination. I was in an aisle seat on that one, so no photos.
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Keith Atherton posted:My buddies and I got plastic wings from a fight attendant lady on a Southwest flight in like 1996 when we were in our twenties I have a whole bag of wings from Eastern (the best defunct airline). They're all over eBay.
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Oct 14, 2017 12:55
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 Man first broke the sound barrier on 14 October 1947, seventy years ago today.
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Colonial Air Force posted:I have a whole bag of wings from Eastern (the best defunct airline). They're all over eBay. PanAm memorabilia is also highly prized.
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VideoGameVet posted:PanAm memorabilia is also highly prized. It’s funny watching older science fiction or future stuff when it was inconceivable that Pan Am couldn’t exist in the future.
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hobbesmaster posted:inconceivable As an aside, seeing that in a movie theater tomorrow
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hobbesmaster posted:It’s funny watching older science fiction or future stuff when it was inconceivable that Pan Am couldn’t exist in the future. I really liked that the new blade runner kept pan-am around (since it was still around in 2019 in the original). Was a nice touch. Ditto with Atari.
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Mr. Despair posted:I really liked that the new blade runner kept pan-am around (since it was still around in 2019 in the original). Was a nice touch. And the cccp. It's a future version of that future after all, not today's future.
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Mr. Despair posted:I really liked that the new blade runner kept pan-am around (since it was still around in 2019 in the original). Was a nice touch. Was TDK in there too?
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Mr. Despair posted:I really liked that the new blade runner kept pan-am around (since it was still around in 2019 in the original). Was a nice touch. Pan Am still exists, a railroad bought the trademarks/logo rights when the airline folded.
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Delivery McGee posted:Pan Am still exists, a railroad bought the trademarks/logo rights when the airline folded. That got me to thinking - how many airlines have also had another corporate function? Off the top of my head - EVA Air is closely related (same parent?) to the ocean shipping company Evergreen. Similarly, Hapag-Lloyd used to run an airline as well. Canadian Pacific (which I think was posted a couple pages ago) is more commonly known as a railroad. Any others?
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Delivery McGee posted:Pan Am still exists, a railroad bought the trademarks/logo rights when the airline folded. Additionally, there’s a charter operation using their colors, operating a couple 737s out of MIA. 
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kathmandu posted:That got me to thinking - how many airlines have also had another corporate function? Off the top of my head - EVA Air is closely related (same parent?) to the ocean shipping company Evergreen. Similarly, Hapag-Lloyd used to run an airline as well. Canadian Pacific (which I think was posted a couple pages ago) is more commonly known as a railroad. Maersk Air was a thing for a bit. Color Air, subsidiary of Color Lines (Norwegian cruiseferry line) as well.
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MrYenko posted:Additionally, there’s a charter operation using their colors, operating a couple 737s out of MIA. Good god, those mirror-shined wings...  Imagine following that guy in on a parallel track with a slight trail, with sun glare.
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kathmandu posted:That got me to thinking - how many airlines have also had another corporate function? Off the top of my head - EVA Air is closely related (same parent?) to the ocean shipping company Evergreen. Similarly, Hapag-Lloyd used to run an airline as well. Canadian Pacific (which I think was posted a couple pages ago) is more commonly known as a railroad. There's the tour company charters that all run their own airline to feed their resorts - Sunwing, TUI, Thomas Cook, etc.
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kathmandu posted:That got me to thinking - how many airlines have also had another corporate function? Off the top of my head - EVA Air is closely related (same parent?) to the ocean shipping company Evergreen. Similarly, Hapag-Lloyd used to run an airline as well. Canadian Pacific (which I think was posted a couple pages ago) is more commonly known as a railroad. Asiana is actually a part of the Kumho Asiana Group, which also controls a large construction company and Kumho tires as part of their holdings.
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I came across this fantastic RCAF (or I guess CFAC, now) patch 
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Can’t dig up a picture on mobile, but one of the earliest flights I remember was on an ATA L-1011. I’d have to ask my parents where they took me as a baby, I think there was an early Air India trip, so probably a 747, I’d imagine.
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MrYenko posted:Additionally, there’s a charter operation using their colors, operating a couple 737s out of MIA. Wow, they somehow managed to make THAT iconic logo ugly. Edit: who was the designer on the original version of that logo? Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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