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I expect pick 19 to end up at Gold Coast, but maybe it’ll go to melbourne I suppose. I thought port was the more likely destination for watts. It seems pretty transparently a way to get Gold Coast good compensation for GAJ. Edit: and I’m pretty sure it isn’t only based on the contract offered. There are other nebulous factors.
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If we essentially trade Motlop for Gaj I'll be filthy. 34 year olds with busted shoulders are not worth the same as essentially healthy 26 year olds. I don't care if he was a champion. I still think Motlop is a better player than Watts because Motlop has some inside game, but overall pick 19 to Melbourne for Watts seems pretty reasonable. Stringer can die in a fire. Also Port have already picked up Motlop and Rockliff, can they even afford Watts right now?
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Oct 14, 2017 05:57
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I don’t know, but Kochie friended watts on insta, so that seals it!
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hiddenmovement posted:EDIT: Remember it's based on what the receiving club has offered as a contract. Maybe there's nothing wrong with the AFL system but perhaps Port are just paying him massive overs? Dale Thomas was worth an 11 partly because of the massive contract Carlton gave him. AFL article says its a $2m 4 year deal. 500k per year hardly seems worthy of that compo. More so with the 20% cap increase.
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Periphery posted:AFL article says its a $2m 4 year deal. 500k per year hardly seems worthy of that compo. More so with the 20% cap increase. Yeah freo got a band 3 for Mayne leaving on the same money. So there are other factors.
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realbez posted:Yeah freo got a band 3 for Mayne leaving on the same money. So there are other factors. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they factor in age age. But Mayne is only a year older than Motlop.  E for clarity: Mayne was 27 (and 346 days as of today) last year. Motlop is 26 (216 days) this year.
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It's almost like the AFL uses it's deliberately loose systems to achieve whatever it outcome wants whenever it feels it is in the best financial interests of the league
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NTRabbit posted:It's almost like the AFL uses it's deliberately loose systems to achieve whatever it outcome wants whenever it feels it is in the best financial interests of the Can't argue with that.
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The AFL probably just feels bad that they accidentally let Geelong trade away more first round picks than they were supposed to. Only fair that they get one back!
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Testekill posted:Because Barrett has hated the Bulldogs ever since Beveridge told him to gently caress off in a bathroom during the Talia saga. He never misses a chance to stick the boots in and will blatantly make up a narrative just to suit his agenda. Now Caro has weighed in too, unbelievable.
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Oct 14, 2017 07:42
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No, the AFL never stacks the deck, they're unceasingly equitable, and use just systems to ensure every team in the league receives the same fair outcome
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gay picnic defence posted:Now Caro has weighed in too, unbelievable. Caro is also really mad that we called her & footy classified out on them referring to the club being in crisis and Peter Gordon being power hungry when our most recent CEO left. You know, the guy who said from the outset that it was always going to be a temporary thing while we looked for someone better qualified.
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I heard Peter Gordon ran over Caro’s cat and drove away laughing maniacally
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thepokey posted:I heard Peter Gordon ran over Caro’s cat and drove away laughing maniacally Replace kinda with repeatedly, and cat with son.
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Oct 14, 2017 08:05
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So either the press are full of poo poo, and Motlop's salary of "approximately $2mill over 4 years" is actually $2.6mill+ over 4 years, or the AFL faked up the compo so that Geelong can make either the Ablett or Stringer feel good story happen. Don't see the Suns being particularly changed in opinion by pick 19, given they still have 21, 24, 26, 37, and 39, they still want a senior player. Unless the AFL sends an edict down from on high of course, since they control the club right now.
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Especially given the increase in the salary cap since mayne moved, yeah. Either Motlop is getting a lot more than reported or the afl has done something very dodge.
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thepokey posted:I heard Malcolm Turnbull ran over Caro’s cat and drove away laughing maniacally
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Again, Buddy Franklin, 10 million, age 26, pick 19.
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spamman posted:Again, Buddy Franklin, 10 million, age 26, pick 19. Hard to have a huge amount of sympathy for that given it was a result of you winning the flag and that you went on to win two more immediately tbh
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Shmoses posted:Hard to have a huge amount of sympathy for that given it was a result of you winning the flag and that you went on to win two more immediately tbh It’s be okay if the AFL was transparent and said they took that kind of stuff into consideration, but their claim that it’s all based on some secret mathematical formula is just infuriating to all AFL supporters.
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Spedman posted:It’s be okay if the AFL was transparent and said they took that kind of stuff into consideration, but their claim that it’s all based on some secret mathematical formula is just infuriating to all AFL supporters. Bingo.
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Should just use Duckworth-Lewis to work it out.
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Largepotato posted:Should just use Duckworth-Lewis to work it out. I didn't know Billy Duckworth and Chris Lewis opened up a consultancy firm, but there you go.
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Tadhg Kennelly and Emma Freedman say that bird should have just kept her clothes on and none of this would have happened! Nice take, guys. Tadhg even reckons a suspension would be over the top. Yeah ok, never mind the legal trouble he might be in, missing a few afl games over this would be way too harsh!
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Dunno who Emma freedman is but hopefully ABC find someone with a functioning brain for games in Sydney going forward.
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A channel 9 rising star, apparently.
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The AFLW are yet to decide if a transgender player is eligible to be picked for next season. Hannah Mouncey is 27, 190cm, 100kg, and began her transition 2 years ago: http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/womens-afl/transgender-footballer-hannah-mouncey-nominates-for-aflw-draft-20171013-gz0a5e
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Oct 15, 2017 11:38
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And the draft is in 3 days.
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Solemn Sloth posted:Dunno who Emma freedman is but hopefully ABC find someone with a functioning brain for games in Sydney going forward. Strangely she's not related to Mia Freedman
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Spedman posted:The AFLW are yet to decide if a transgender player is eligible to be picked for next season. Hannah Mouncey is 27, 190cm, 100kg, and began her transition 2 years ago: oof
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Spedman posted:The AFLW are yet to decide if a transgender player is eligible to be picked for next season. Hannah Mouncey is 27, 190cm, 100kg, and began her transition 2 years ago: Geez.... I'm not sure what my stance is. More power to her that she wants to play and she's transitioning but I kinda feel that 2 years transitioning may still be a little too soon.
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She meets the IOC testosterone level parameters (which the AFL recognises) and was playing in a registered womens comp already so it seems pretty simple to me? The AFL has policies in place for this, she meets the policies, it's just about whether the AFL is actually willing to stick to its procedure in the face of the inevitable idiocy from the Herald Sun and Sam Newman.
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Solemn Sloth posted:She meets the IOC testosterone level parameters (which the AFL recognises) and was playing in a registered womens comp already so it seems pretty simple to me? The AFL has policies in place for this, she meets the policies, it's just about whether the AFL is actually willing to stick to its procedure in the face of the inevitable idiocy from the Herald Sun and Sam Newman. Their decision will hinge on which option they predict will generate the least controversy, not to do with whether or not it is within their rules.
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Sam Newman is going to wear a dress and nominate for the draft imho
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Solemn Sloth posted:Sam Newman is going to wear a dress and nominate for the draft imho It'll be funny if his old man testosterone levels mean that he's actually eligible.
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gay picnic defence posted:It'll be funny if his old man testosterone levels mean that he's actually eligible. It'd be funny if Perkins put him in hospital.
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Testekill posted:Geez.... I'm not sure what my stance is. More power to her that she wants to play and she's transitioning but I kinda feel that 2 years transitioning may still be a little too soon. My wife who rowed at the top NCAA level for Berkeley and still does here competitively, felt that it just wouldn't be fair to the other athletes competing against a woman who still had a very masculine physique. It's a really tough situation for everyone involved.
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