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morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

veni veni veni posted:

Also why in the loving hell is it not on HBO now? What is my brother even paying for with this service?

Yeah, I was looking for it the other day. You want it you have to pay for it. Amazon has it to buy.

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
HBO doesn't have a bunch of their poo poo from the 80s and 90s; Dream On, First and Ten, Tales From the Crypt. They didn't even have Mr. Show until Netflix financed the new episodes and the only Taxi Cab Confessions they have are from later in the series when it was just amateur porn.

Edit: Though First and Ten not being available might be because of OJ.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 11, 2017

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Dream On is probably especially tricky because a lot of it used clips from old movies and TV shows spliced in.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
HBO GO/Now would be worth it if every single America Undercover was on it.

Stevie Lee
Oct 8, 2007
anybody checked out Mindhunter on Netflix yet? is it as good as I want it to be?

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

Stevie Lee posted:

anybody checked out Mindhunter on Netflix yet? is it as good as I want it to be?

It's good if you like criminal psychology stuff.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I can't wait to watch that, I read a few of Ressler and Douglas' books, so throw Fincher in the mix and it's a no-brainer.

Interested to see someone try to portray Kemper, he never seems to get much of this kind of media attention for whatever reason.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Stevie Lee posted:

anybody checked out Mindhunter on Netflix yet? is it as good as I want it to be?

first episode is basically same style as Zodiac and is really good, most people say the quality is consistent so yeah probably

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

Basebf555 posted:

Interested to see someone try to portray Kemper, he never seems to get much of this kind of media attention for whatever reason.

Cameron Britton is reaaaaally good in that role.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
They should've cast like Tom Noonan and John Carroll Lynch but as the detectives, not the killers. That'd be a surreal bit of casting.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Basebf555 posted:

I can't wait to watch that, I read a few of Ressler and Douglas' books, so throw Fincher in the mix and it's a no-brainer.

Interested to see someone try to portray Kemper, he never seems to get much of this kind of media attention for whatever reason.

I have read Douglas' first 3 books like a dozen times each so I feel like I gotta.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I have read Douglas' first 3 books like a dozen times each so I feel like I gotta.

How old were you? I went through a phase like that when I was 15 or 16 where I was like poo poo man I'm gonna learn all about serial killers and become one of those badass profilers like in the Thomas Harris novels.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Basebf555 posted:

How old were you? I went through a phase like that when I was 15 or 16 where I was like poo poo man I'm gonna learn all about serial killers and become one of those badass profilers like in the Thomas Harris novels.

Like 15-21, yeah. I never had those specific fantasies cause I never found serial killers particularly fascinating but true crime type stuff has never been far from my mind. I blame it all on watching and the news as a kid, which was as morbid and perverse as it is now. Hard Copy, Geraldo, Unsolved Mysteries, 20/20, I even recall 24/7 coverage being reserved for stuff like OJ Simpson/Jon Benet/Waco/Columbine type stuff.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Like 15-21, yeah. I never had those specific fantasies cause I never found serial killers particularly fascinating but true crime type stuff has never been far from my mind. I blame it all on watching and the news as a kid, which was as morbid and perverse as it is now. Hard Copy, Geraldo, Unsolved Mysteries, 20/20, I even recall 24/7 coverage being reserved for stuff like OJ Simpson/Jon Benet/Waco/Columbine type stuff.

I've never read much of this sort of stuff. Do you have any recommendations?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Sir Kodiak posted:

I've never read much of this sort of stuff. Do you have any recommendations?

John E. Douglas' two first two books: Mindhunter and Journey Into Darkness. The two books that almost immediately came out after Jonestown: Awake In A Nightmare and Six Years With God. Two of Peter Maas' books: Serpico and The Valachi Papers. Not the biggest fan of Bugliosi as a writer (as a public figure I find him fascinating): Helter Skelter. Palm Beach Babylon. The Iceman: The True Story Of A Cold Blooded Killer. Gommorah. Homicide: A Year On The Killing Streets speaks for itself with not one but two excellent shows based on it. Popular Crime: Reflections on the Celebration of Violence is a good book if only for shouting out Mortal Error, the book that contains my personal favorite JFK conspiracy theory. Can't recommend Mark Ames' book Going Postal enough. People Who Eat Darkness. Bully is amazingly evocative trash, you can read it in a sitting or two and then need to scrape the grime off your skin afterward. Ditto The Last Victim. I recall the To Catch A Predator book being grim as hell. Robert Graysmith's Zodiac book is awfully compelling, if controversial. Closing Time. American Honor Killings. Under The Banner of Heaven. Fatal Vision has an incredible backstory. All The President's Men, but I've always thought Nixon is probably the most interesting president the US has ever had. The Nic Pileggi books Wiseguy (Goodfellas) and Casino: Love and Honor In Las Vegas. Probably the most recent true crime book that I've found to be instantly classic is Dave Cullen's Columbine. Killings was recently reprinted and is phenomenal, it's like Studs Terkel doing true crime.

And finally, it's not that well written like most pulp true crime (the typical true crime book before the current boom starting around Devil In The White City was very shoddily edited, researched, dubiously fictionalized, etc) but it has a hell of a title: Kill Grandma For Me.

Anything else would be kind of out of the way, for example I would recommend Den of Thieves, or The Big Short, or The Looming Tower, etc. which have elements of true crime but not quite.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Awesome, thanks for the extensive response. I've read Homicide: A Year On The Killing Streets, which was great, and I've got Mindhunter lying around, so I'll just jump into that. But I've saved the whole list for future reference.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Noah Baumbach's Netflix movie, The Meyerowitz Stories, is fantastic.
It's up there with Francis Ha for my fave Baum right now.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Sir Kodiak posted:

Awesome, thanks for the extensive response. I've read Homicide: A Year On The Killing Streets, which was great, and I've got Mindhunter lying around, so I'll just jump into that. But I've saved the whole list for future reference.

John Douglas's stuff can be fun reads, but they're nowhere near the level of quality as Homicide.

Also, unlike profiling, the detective work shown in homicide has actually caught people.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


So LORE,
Awful.

They had an old timey film filter added to a scene from the 1800s.
It would be a ok kids spook show if it weren't for the suprising Gore and nudity.
Anyone who's seen History channel efforts in drama know what quality to expect here.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
If you're at all a fan of Fincher's Zodiac you should be watching Mindhunter. The guy who is playing Ed Kemper is terrifyingly good at what he's doing.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Longmire's final season hits Netflix 11-17. Looking forwards to watching but I'll miss it. At least Netflix gave it a run of four more seasons after its first cancellation to go through the whole story they wanted to tell.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Also I was just about to put on Parks and Rec to fall asleep, and remembered trying to find an episode that doesn't have Tom being obnoxious is loving impossible to find. What an awful character.

That show is 98 percent great, and 2 percent really wishing he gets hit by a car out of nowhere and dies.

E:https://youtu.be/NOc9K8SRKdw

Never mind, the fact that he ever existed on TV is the worst.

Ugly In The Morning fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Oct 14, 2017

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




Junkie Disease posted:

So LORE,
Awful.

They had an old timey film filter added to a scene from the 1800s.
It would be a ok kids spook show if it weren't for the suprising Gore and nudity.
Anyone who's seen History channel efforts in drama know what quality to expect here.

The way the narrator speaks is unbearable. How the gently caress was that a successful podcast?

fishtobaskets
Feb 22, 2007

It's not about butthole pleasures
Lipstick Apathy
The title sequence for Mindhunter is so unsettling. It does a great job of establishing the gravity of the narrative.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Just remember everyone, Mindhunters is based on the book based on the life of John Douglas who created "Profiling", and the character Jack Crawford on Silence of the Lambs is based on John Douglas so watch the show because without it we never would have had the show Profiler in the 90s.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Papa John Misty posted:

The way the narrator speaks is unbearable. How the gently caress was that a successful podcast?

You can hear his nebbish smirk when he thinks he's said something shocking/clever/spooky.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Papa John Misty posted:

The way the narrator speaks is unbearable. How the gently caress was that a successful podcast?

Yeah. He is the worst narrator I have ever heard. I'm guessing he is really young, because I have noticed this thing with youtubers where they try to narrate and they emphasize all the wrong things. I'm trying to figure out why the gently caress this is so common and the conclusion I came to is that these guys are learning VA from watching anime and they come out sounding like brain damaged robots.

Here is just some random Youtuber I ran into recently. Notice how he narrates his reviews exactly like the lore guy. Long pauses mid sentence and ending most sentences with a phony chuckle. It's so drat weird. I don't really have a ton of examples but i have been noticing it everywhere lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvm0cU99Es&t=167s

But yeah, Lore is pretty bad. Was hoping for some good spooky stuff to watch, but it just feels like youtube comes to the mid sized screen.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

veni veni veni posted:

Yeah. He is the worst narrator I have ever heard. I'm guessing he is really young, because I have noticed this thing with youtubers where they try to narrate and they emphasize all the wrong things.

Nope. He's in his mid-thirties.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Franchescanado posted:

Nope. He's in his mid-thirties.

Oh. He sounds like a pip squeak.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

veni veni veni posted:

Oh. He sounds like a pip squeak.

Yes. Another point against the podcast is that he probably steals his topics from other podcasts. I haven't heard a topic that wasn't covered by another very popular podcast previously.

I was hoping the show would get a different narrator, but of course they didn't.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

veni veni veni posted:

Here is just some random Youtuber I ran into recently. Notice how he narrates his reviews exactly like the lore guy. Long pauses mid sentence and ending most sentences with a phony chuckle. It's so drat weird. I don't really have a ton of examples but i have been noticing it everywhere lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvm0cU99Es&t=167s

But yeah, Lore is pretty bad. Was hoping for some good spooky stuff to watch, but it just feels like youtube comes to the mid sized screen.

It's like a combo of corporate training video and anime dub.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.
Just to hop on the "Aaron Mahnke is a total hack" train, I got one of his books that he hocks every podcast. It was one of the worst horror books I've ever read, completely derivative and cliche, with a "twist" cliffhanger ending that didn't work at all. And it didn't seem like he had bothered editing it at all.

As bad a host as he is now, he was ten times worse in the beginning. It was an absolute struggle to get through his shows. And he does the absolute bare minimum of research - listen to him pronounce Reykjavik. Not sure why I kept up with the show, to be honest. He does put out interesting stories that I haven't heard before on occasion, but usually its the same old Dyatlov Pass, Werewolf, H. H. Holmes stuff better told in a million other places.

He really is the worst podcast host and the fact that Lore got a TV show before Night Vale (and I get that Night Vale is NOT for everyone, but at least the host is phenomenal) is damaging to my psyche. Is he really the narrator of his TV show? What a terrible decision. The producers should be ashamed of themselves.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
If one person with an odd speaking pattern and affect should have a show, it's Nick Nocturne.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

John Douglas's stuff can be fun reads, but they're nowhere near the level of quality as Homicide.

Also, unlike profiling, the detective work shown in homicide has actually caught people.

Well yeah, Simon was a reporter. He drat well better be a better writer.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Mindhunter is real good. Thanks for reading.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

veni veni veni posted:

Yeah. He is the worst narrator I have ever heard. I'm guessing he is really young, because I have noticed this thing with youtubers where they try to narrate and they emphasize all the wrong things. I'm trying to figure out why the gently caress this is so common and the conclusion I came to is that these guys are learning VA from watching anime and they come out sounding like brain damaged robots.

Nah people in anime dubs don't really talk like that outside of Speed Racer. I think it's mostly an attempt to do a strong professional public speaking voice and end up way over-shooting it.

Or they're doing Speed Racer mixed with William Shatner doing Rocket Man

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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The Babysitter is a lot of fun. Very throwback, Fright Night, Lost Boys style horror-comedy.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Papa John Misty posted:

The Babysitter is a lot of fun. Very throwback, Fright Night, Lost Boys style horror-comedy.

I just watched this last night, and I thought it was great until about halfway through (When the insane Patrick Bateman shirtless guy corners the protagonist, knocks him down for the kill, and...helps him with a bully??? It just eradicated the pacing and tension from the last (awesome) scene, where Sonya blows up). They also overuse the "bad guy appearing behind the good guy" thing, and people are constantly running straight past open doors that lead to escape to a point where it's distracting. It sputters and almost gets back up and running a couple times, but I feel like the second half keeps getting muddled with odd choices.

I will say that I put it on before my wife came into the room, so she thought we were watching a quirky coming of age tale until the changeover. This is definitely how you should show this movie to people.

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rngd in the womb
Oct 13, 2009

Yam Slacker

Teenage Fansub posted:

Noah Baumbach's Netflix movie, The Meyerowitz Stories, is fantastic.
It's up there with Francis Ha for my fave Baum right now.

Just did this double feature. Had lots of fun, and really like the sincerity of his movies. Montages about a specific time in the characters' lives are my favorite Baumbach motif now.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Teenage Fansub posted:

Noah Baumbach's Netflix movie, The Meyerowitz Stories, is fantastic.
It's up there with Francis Ha for my fave Baum right now.

I watched it too. Based on the way it was presented, I thought it would be a series of shorts. And he kind of films it that way, but it's still the same story, and same characters.

Great movie.

I also watched Gerald's Game, a Netflix original movie based on a Stephen King story about a husband and wife who go to an isolated lake house to try and kink up their sex life. It was, enh. Watchable, but enh.

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Warm und Fuzzy
Jun 20, 2006

The Panic in Needle Park is on Amazon Prime, and it's a 1971 approximate time capsule of the New York that Bob Dylan and Simon and Garfunkel sang about, complete with high ISO film grain. Al Pacino's super likable playing the male version of manic pixie dream girl.

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