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For all the game's story issues I do think Tolkien would approve of one of the central themes being those who use evil to fight evil, despite the best of intentions, wind up becoming no better than those they oppose.
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The Iron Rose posted:How do you upgrade your forts' defences? I've taken two so far, still in Act 2, and can't seem to find the option anywhere. Go to the army screen, from there hit the button to get to the siege upgrade menu, and your defenses will be on the right hand side. None of the defense upgrades seem all that strong on their own, but once you have them all unlocked they make things a good deal more difficult for attackers and there isn't really anything else to spend the money on anyway.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:15
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So there's gear themed after the different tribes right? How do I get it?
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Oct 16, 2017 18:20
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Calaveron posted:So there's gear themed after the different tribes right? How do I get it? Kill legendary orcs of that tribe. Dudes who come back or you death threat tend to increase in rarity.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:22
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Also, one of the skills (3rd row, right-most skill?) has an upgrade to increase drop quality from captains, etc. The skill with the PROSPECTOR upgrade (so its gold)
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Oct 16, 2017 18:26
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The most recent captain I tangled with had the epithet "The Complainer". True to his name, everything he said including his combat banter was a complaint. He even complained about me branding him. I love this game.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:28
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SettingSun posted:The most recent captain I tangled with had the epithet "The Complainer". True to his name, everything he said including his combat banter was a complaint. He even complained about me branding him. I tried to recruit a spear-throwing guy only to find out I was too low level, so I shamed him and he went crazy. Later on I find him hiding alone in the caves right outside a Burrow and I recruit him. Not only was his banter a bunch of jibberish the 2nd time I met him, but I brought him along on a fort attack and he kept talking about the sun and the moon and having left the tea kettle on the fire.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:36
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SettingSun posted:The most recent captain I tangled with had the epithet "The Complainer". True to his name, everything he said including his combat banter was a complaint. He even complained about me branding him. I had a Complainer, all he ever said was "Stop it" with an occasional "Just stop it" for emphasis. He belted out a downright heroic read of the line the one time he stopped me from getting murked though.
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Oct 16, 2017 18:52
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What's the point installing warchiefs if I just have to fight the overlord 1v1 anyways?
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Oct 16, 2017 19:02
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The old Overlord used them and you will need them to fight off attacks.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:03
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Now that I reflect on it does anyone else feel like they spend less time doing sandbox stuff in SoW than in SoM? Not counting story missions, tutorials and Shadow Wars, I don't think I spent much time actually dicking around with orcs because preparing a fort assault was way easier than removing 5 warchiefs in SoM.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:03
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Pleads posted:What's the point installing warchiefs if I just have to fight the overlord 1v1 anyways? Man 1v1 would have been a pleasure. The last Overlord I fought it was me, him, and the dozen uruk/ologs he war-horned in every few minutes. He was a beastmaster too so summoning didn't help me. SettingSun fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Oct 16, 2017 19:05
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Scalding Coffee posted:The old Overlord used them and you will need them to fight off attacks. When/how do those trigger? I did the story one where Bruz backstabs you afterwards but haven't had any more. I feel like putting warchiefs in is a huge trap because they won't level at all and while I'd want to put my favorite orcs into warchief positions, then I can't see/play with them during the rest of the game. e: vvvv Yeah, loving javelin orcs are about the fastest way to gently caress me up while I'm trying to do poo poo since it feels like their "firing!" indicators are off-screen or hidden behind the UI half the time. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Oct 16, 2017 19:05
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Post story spoilers I miss Celebrimbro shouting SUFFER ME NOW and poo poo whenever I grab an orc  Talion needs his own spooky lines instead of just kinda... growling or whatever at orcs. Maybe let Shelob speak through him! Give him spider powers! Let him sling a web to bounce around the place. Add a web effect to the frost punch attack. Counter attacks by stuffing a spider in an orc's mouth. FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH CELEBRIMBRO, NOW SHELOB IS MY BEST FRIEND.Non story business and game griping: Holy heck projectile orcs need a loving cool down, I've lost count of how many times I've been stunlocked by some rear end in a top hat lobbing spears at me or dunking bombs at my feet.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:07
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Also, I don't know if I am loving it up constantly or if SoW has a very different understanding of what a slide tackle is than I do. When I am running it says hold RT to Slide tackle enemies, which I expect to cause Talion to drop and slide feet first into the enemies legs, knocking them down, e.g. like this. This does not happen, most often nothing at all happens, but a few times Talion has dived headfirst at the enemy, knocking them to the ground and ending up on top of them. It's so inconsistent though I am normally just too surprised anything happened to reflect on what I was doing. Darkrenown fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Oct 16, 2017 19:12
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If you hold RB while running you'll diving tackle them. You can tap RB to shoulder-check dudes too. To slide, you need to tap RT instead of holding it, since holding it puts you into stealth.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:16
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Darkrenown posted:So I got to act 2 at last, and loving lol: Yay I got the New ring back, now I replace it with the first random rune/ring to drop from a loser captain because it is very much better. They could have just given me a Rune slot and let the Ring be it's own thing.... uh they did
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Oct 16, 2017 20:13
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They should have named the "Ring" slot "Rune" because it really seems like you're just tossing the new ring for some orcs cock ring
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Oct 16, 2017 20:14
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Just picked up this game, I'm sure its been asked before but I want to be played on the harder difficulty, yes? The first one was way too easy.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:22
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Just picked up this game, I'm sure its been asked before but I want to be played on the harder difficulty, yes? The first one was way too easy. Just start on Nemesis, you can change the difficulty whenever you want anyways.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:26
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Just picked up this game, I'm sure its been asked before but I want to be played on the harder difficulty, yes? The first one was way too easy. Depends on how good you are at Arkham style combat. The game's normal difficulty is moderately more difficult than Shadow of Mordor and it scales up from there. Nemesis can be incredibly punishing.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:27
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Lexorin posted:They should have named the "Ring" slot "Rune" because it really seems like you're just tossing the new ring for some orcs cock ring It's called Ringcraft, and all the items you pick up for it are Runes of ____, so they kinda did. The most confusing part is that the symbol for the runes is a ring.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:27
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So I lost to a big Olog last night and he broke my best sword. Upon respawn it said “Hey dummy you died and your sword broke but don’t worry, if you beat him again during your Vendetta, you can re-make that sword even better than before!” I was made less sad by that message and went over to the Olog and promptly whooped up on him and waited for my “here is how you re-forge your sword” message — nothing. No mention of it was ever raised again. Did they forget to build that mechanics or did I mess something up?
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Oct 16, 2017 20:31
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he1ixx posted:So I lost to a big Olog last night and he broke my best sword. Upon respawn it said “Hey dummy you died and your sword broke but don’t worry, if you beat him again during your Vendetta, you can re-make that sword even better than before!” I was made less sad by that message and went over to the Olog and promptly whooped up on him and waited for my “here is how you re-forge your sword” message — nothing. No mention of it was ever raised again. Did they forget to build that mechanics or did I mess something up? Its just put back into your inventory once you kill him.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:32
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Zore posted:Its just put back into your inventory once you kill him. I’ll take a look. I did see a new level 25 sword in there but it was Plain Jane “white” rarity and had none of the poison stuff on it. I’ll look again though. Thanks.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:34
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Just picked up this game, I'm sure its been asked before but I want to be played on the harder difficulty, yes? The first one was way too easy. When I first started, having been one of the (typical, due to how easy it was) Gods of the first game but rusty as hell from not having played in forever, Nemesis gave me a really hard time. Now at level 20, I've gotten back into the flow of things enough, levelled up enough, and learned the quirks of the new system enough that I only die when I do something dumb. I hit a major milestone last night when I managed to kill a captain by accident, having set out with the intent of Branding him; he was a bit weaker to Poison damage than I expected. Start on Nemesis, but pace yourself in the early fights. Don't expect to go gunning after level 15 captains at level 1 with any realistic odds of success.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:41
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So much poo poo happening here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxfZtgooFE4 I had no idea your Bodyguard could be taken hostage, but even more hilarious is how Bruz shows up to say "hey, I know this is a hostage crisis, BUT DID YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE ARMY SCREEN" at 4 minutes in
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Oct 16, 2017 20:51
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Man, I've been at the start of Act 2 for ~4/5 hours now ("Dominate captains to begin your assault" or whatever) because: 1) There are a bunch of orcs higher level than me, and when I fight/defeat them all I can do is shame them, then they gently caress off. Then I have to find them again, and when I do, another rear end in a top hat high-level orc captain is hanging out with them 95% of the time, and either I get killed by THAT guy or the lower-level guy dies as collateral damage in the fight. Go back to start. 2) I finally manage to shame, track down AND brand a low-level guy! Yay! 3) He goes insane and/or betrays me and then gets killed (by me or other animals/orcs) while I was trying to get another orc. Go back to start. It's funny in a perverse sort of way.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:55
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Capn Beeb posted:Post story spoilers This is really bugging me too. I hate how dead silent the game becomes. I also am already getting tired of the green filter for all the powers and abilities (except the glaive, the nazgul glaive looks cool). Like I get it is part of the story but the game just became a notch less enjoyable.
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Oct 16, 2017 20:56
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I definitely had to just play as some kind of guerilla rear end in a top hat for a long time on Nemesis, because there's no fuckin way I was able to go to-to-toe with captains being backed up by the 50-man scrub orc brigade tossing 5 javelins and 3 olog fists at me per second. The real turnaround was getting the ability to brand dudes on the ground, which I didn't pick up for ages since I initially went for the much weaker wraith shield + fatal counters combo. The Might skill that lets you immediately brand multiple orcs is similarly very helpful. Makes it about a million times easier to heal, and your additional orcbuds do a good job of taking the heat off you.
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Oct 16, 2017 21:01
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I got two pieces of the Vengeance set, which lets you do Might moves even if you don't have Might at a health cost. I wear them any time I go recruiting, because it really sucks to finally "break" a captain just to have him flee or get killed and I couldn't drain him in combat because I lacked the Might to do it instantly or the time to do it the long way.
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Oct 16, 2017 21:06
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ConfusedUs posted:I got two pieces of the Vengeance set, which lets you do Might moves even if you don't have Might at a health cost. How does this interact with combat drain?
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ConfusedUs posted:I got two pieces of the Vengeance set, which lets you do Might moves even if you don't have Might at a health cost. Yeah, having a guy broken and just not managing to land that final brand is the worst. Fortunately somewhere around level 30-ish you unlock a spec for the dominate skill that allows you to brand dudes way faster, taking less than a second. Combine it with the spec that turns drains into brands, and you can snipe broken captains and beasts from a distance even in the middle of a giant brawl no problem. Perestroika fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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ConfusedUs posted:I got two pieces of the Vengeance set, which lets you do Might moves even if you don't have Might at a health cost. Vargs posted:I definitely had to just play as some kind of guerilla rear end in a top hat for a long time on Nemesis, because there's no fuckin way I was able to go to-to-toe with captains being backed up by the 50-man scrub orc brigade tossing 5 javelins and 3 olog fists at me per second. The real turnaround was getting the ability to brand dudes on the ground, which I didn't pick up for ages since I initially went for the much weaker wraith shield + fatal counters combo. The Might skill that lets you immediately brand multiple orcs is similarly very helpful. Makes it about a million times easier to heal, and your additional orcbuds do a good job of taking the heat off you.
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So, I think my previous game bled into the current one. I started a new game on Nemesis difficulty. Got to act two, recruited Bruz. Am prepping for the first fort assault when who appears with a "cheated death" message? (end of act 2 spoiler) Bruz the Chopper. And he's level forty to my level 12, and bears the mark of the shame-branding.  He didn't even drop loot. Deuce fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Oct 16, 2017 21:21
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Ravenfood posted:I just realized, what happens if you use that set to Drain someone and also have the Drain skill that gives you full health? Or even just wear items that increase your health recovery per drain? Is that basically just a way to never, ever die as long as there is a grunt around? poo poo, if so I'd totally avoided using the Vengeance set because I didn't want to accidentally murder myself executing some idiot peon. I have no loving idea. Sometimes I use it drain/brand with no might and go immediately to full health. Sometimes it seems to knock off the appropriate 40% of my health. I really don't know why it doesn't seem consistent.
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Oct 16, 2017 21:31
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Jack Trades posted:I think that they're under impression that they have to have a AAA story to be able to sell the game but the core gameplay of Shadow of just doesn't work with that kind of scripted storytelling. true but DOOM 2016 had a fun and good story, but it was only there if you wanted it and didnt intrude. and the shadow of X are great games to listen to podcasts too. Sky Shadowing posted:For all the game's story issues I do think Tolkien would approve of one of the central themes being those who use evil to fight evil, despite the best of intentions, wind up becoming no better than those they oppose. pretty much. i think the game holds true to that core theme well enough. i personally think the story is passable enough.
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Cheers all, I'll give it a shot on Nemesis and pull back if I have to 
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Oct 16, 2017 21:38
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So I'm confused. (haven't bought the game yet but played the last one) Everybody keeps talking about how orcs keep coming back from the dead over and over again. Is there any surefire way of getting rid of an ork or is it just random whether or not they stay dead? vvv edit: ok cool thanks GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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GreatGreen posted:So I'm confused. (haven't bought the game yet but played the last one) It's random.
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