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https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/920011063860572160quote:One of the University of Florida’s top doctors recently told the Washington Post that the security operation to protect Richard Spencer on October 19 involves closing a major outpatient clinic and surgery center, disrupting students’ ability to access medical services. No student group at the University of Florida has invited Spencer, who is simply renting space for his own private event
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Javes posted:https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/919930273533440000 FYI IOs 11 allows you to press the lock button 5 times rapidly to bring up the emergency SOS screen. That disables touch ID to unlock and requires a typed in passcode.
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Nevvy Z posted:I would think not or what's the point in having it at all? Apparently Griffin v. California argues that a refusal by invoking the fifth amendment cannot even be commented on by a judge or the prosecution. It doesn't seem to make much sense outside of the constitutional context though. It seems to allow a defendant the ability to hide evidence via omission without any logical consequence of doing so. But then I remember that the justice system is typically a weapon used on the vulnerable, and to prevent as many miscarriages of justice against the innocent as we can, illogical rules are the price we pay. Talmonis fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Talmonis posted:Apparently Griffin v. California argues that a refusal by invoking the fifth amendment cannot even be commented on by a judge or the prosecution. It doesn't seem to make much sense outside of the constitutional context though. It seems to allow a defendant the ability to hide evidence via omission without any logical consequence of doing so. It's not illogical, it's having a different goal. If your goal is to reduce the amount of power the justice system has over vulnerable individuals and prevent abuses, it's very logical. That's why saying something is "illogical" doesn't mean anything and why leaving behind that kind of thinking is necessary to understanding the justice system. And also to not being a lovely person.
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cool, gotta defend those poor nazis from justice spencer led a flash mob of murderers to charlottesville to say "we'll be back" and the florida gov is here to say "and we'll make sure you can kill again unobstructed!"
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Condiv posted:cool, gotta defend those poor nazis from justice Lord Voldemort is a white supremacist yes.
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I'm visiting Florida for work and all I can say is gently caress this place I hope it drowns. Sorry Florigoons, take one for the team.
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I spent many years there as a child. Jacksonville, Florida is the closest I've seen to a city simply being a large featureless grey box. I truly believe that there is a Hell mouth somewhere in that drat state, and I hope one day is gets sucked in, never to be seen again. But like all nasty gnarly penises of the world, it's not going anywhere and you're just gonna have to figure out how to deal with it, even as the crusty scabs falling off make you gag.
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bird food bathtub posted:I'm visiting Florida for work and all I can say is gently caress this place I hope it drowns. Sorry Florigoons, take one for the team. This is always appropriate Edit. drat bug bunny florida gif won't load. 
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The country is being run by a child and all of the adults in the room are monsters.
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He has moderated the administration and brought a sense of professionalism to the administration.
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:FYI IOs 11 allows you to press the lock button 5 times rapidly to bring up the emergency SOS screen. That disables touch ID to unlock and requires a typed in passcode. Lol I bet that's just for good press and that in addition to the lock 5x combination Apple also added another secret combination for the FBI/police to break into your phone.
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bird food bathtub posted:I'm visiting Florida for work and all I can say is gently caress this place I hope it drowns. Sorry Florigoons, take one for the team.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:gently caress you! You can't drown us our air is already basically water. While the global warming super-storms devastate the rest of the country we will be barbecuing and bullshitting about how it's nothing compared to Irma/Ivan/Andrew. You can't barbecue underwater.
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I shudder to think of how insane the corporate welfare is going to be from the city that wins the Amazon HQ2 sweepstakes.
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NewMars posted:You can't barbecue underwater. Tell that to Spongebob.
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Main Paineframe posted:Maybe not, but there are absolutely 200 million racists, which is what I was talking about. The fact that you hear "racist" and immediately think of neo-Nazis waving swastikas is pretty striking. What about the millions of judges, teachers, and hiring managers quietly dismissing black people as just somehow not as good as white people? What about the tens of millions of wealthy white suburbanites who just "wouldn't feel safe" if black people moved into their neighborhood? If you think the only racists out there are people wearing KKK hoods, you're closer to being part of the problem than part of the solution. It's also a look at the larger question of how to deal with people this loving broke-brained. I mean, death-to-fascists rhetoric aside, you're not supposed to just shoot all of them or advocate for that, there's no magic pill or psychosurgery that will solve the problem, how else are you supposed to treat people this far gone but with institutionalization and aggressive therapy? Rockopolis fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Rockopolis posted:I mean, death-to-fascists rhetoric aside, you're not supposed to just shoot all of them or advocate for that Why not Rockopolis posted:I there's no magic pill or psychosurgery that will solve the problem, I can think of a few calibers Rockopolis posted:I how else are you supposed to treat people this far gone but with institutionalization and aggressive therapy? Indeed
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/SecretsBedard/status/920292130203095040 not at all surprising. it's always hilarious to see libertarians that worship ron paul cause he's not even close to the standard of a libertarianism. or maybe he is if you consider libertarianism to be "freedom for me (white guy), but not for thee"
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Condiv posted:not at all surprising. it's always hilarious to see libertarians that worship ron paul cause he's not even close to the standard of a libertarianism. or maybe he is if you consider libertarianism to be "freedom for me (white guy), but not for thee" You just described libertarianism.
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There was a brief moment where libertarianism was more than just "i'm a republican but young enough to know republicans suck", but they've been absorbed into democrats/bernie/new republicans since. I mean, in all practicality the democratic party is the Libertarian party, seeing as they're relaxed on social issues, favor privatized solutions, and tend to stress themselves on Balanced Budget-ing welfare programs. So the odds of an independent libertarian being libertarian based on actual libertarian ideology is super-slim
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Libertarians are just people who want to look intellectual but still want to enact monstrous conservative policy that only benefits them, so a standard republican with a coat of paint. edit: oh yeah also they are mostly cool with weed. Faustian Bargain fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Libertarians want the freedom to take the liberty of others.
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Caros posted:You just described libertarianism. well yeah, but they pretend to be about more and care about everyone's freedom
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BarbarianElephant posted:Libertarians want the freedom to take the liberty of others. Yup, and so do Republicans. That's why what you wrote here needs to be the standard Democratic response whenever they bloviate on about liberty.
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https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/920314267412418561 And this is on the heels of that Massachusetts chemist that falsified the evidence of tens of thousands of cases. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Dookhan
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Rockopolis posted:Best to break up a large problem into smaller tasks, and the goose-steppers are a subset of racists that lack the self-control that keeps the others from flinging poo poo everywhere. Majorian posted:Yup, and so do Republicans. That's why what you wrote here needs to be the standard Democratic response whenever they bloviate on about liberty.
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Neurolimal posted:I mean, in all practicality the democratic party is the Libertarian party, seeing as they're relaxed on social issues, favor privatized solutions, and tend to stress themselves on Balanced Budget-ing welfare programs. So the odds of an independent libertarian being libertarian based on actual libertarian ideology is super-slim Libertarians don't want balanced budgets they want to destroy the state except for a few core functions, you turd. Really there's no difference between Ron Paul and FDR because they both worried about the deficit. 
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it depends on if we're talking about bush-era libertarians or obama-era libertarians. bush-era libertarians were people who held republican positions on economics, but also didn't like the iraq war and liked weed. their positions would have destroyed the government, but they didn't really push them that hard, and the bush-era credit bubble made that kind of "privatize literally everything" conservatism palatable to mainstream audiences because the crash hadn't happened yet. obama-era libertarians were more along the lines of "ron paul, audit the fed, purestrain gold, ayn rand is basically jesus, etc..." these people got radicalized and became part of the tea party movement and later the alt-right. the 2008 meltdown caused libertarians to either reexamine their beliefs (and become socialists) or double down.
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Potato Salad posted:Why not It just seems that it always ends up as "yes there's a pile of fascists and no, there's not much to be done about it other than try to ignore them and hope for the best  Same problem for the vanilla racists, whether or not you think that includes Main Painframe's two hundred million. How do you deal with that poo poo? I don't think the previous status quo of "pretend nothing's wrong" is workable anymore. Dead Reckoning posted:"People with bad opinions need to be forcibly institutionalized and re-educated" is not a road you should be going down. I seriously hope this entire conversation is an attempt at ironic humor. I mean, when they're pretty much objectively bad opinions, there's a bunch of people like that, how do the rest us deal with them? Aren't we approaching a point where we will have to decide whether we actually have any self-confidence in our own morality, when we'll be pushed into choosing between "this is right and that is wrong" and "I actually have no opinions"?
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Do we have a thread for 2018 gubernatorial elections? Just got an email from Maya (Rockeymoore Cummings) for Maryland and I guess it's time to start thinking about throwing Hogan out on his rear end.
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Sorus posted:Do we have a thread for 2018 gubernatorial elections? Just got an email from Maya (Rockeymoore Cummings) for Maryland and I guess it's time to start thinking about throwing Hogan out on his rear end. I would be interested in this if someone wanted to put in the effort.
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Neurolimal posted:Few libertarians will admit in-person to a desire to destroy the state, because there's too many debate pitfalls involving bipartisan programs everyone supports. Instead they attempt to point to budgetary issues that they believe could be solved via privatization. Gary Johnson ran on abolishing the department of commerce, HUD, DoEd, and literally "any other department" that congress voted to abolish. Maybe this gambit to smear democrats with a facile comparison was a mistake?
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Neurolimal posted:Few libertarians will admit in-person to a desire to destroy the state, because there's too many debate pitfalls involving bipartisan programs everyone supports. Instead they attempt to point to budgetary issues that they believe could be solved via privatization. Their arms must get tired pointing to every single one of them
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JeffersonClay posted:Gary Johnson ran on abolishing the department of commerce, HUD, DoEd, and literally "any other department" that congress voted to abolish. Yes, and that's why he lost steam. He fell into the trap of having to defend the idea of defunding things people liked, rather than sticking to "Balanced Budget" rhetoric. "Balanced Budget" of today and "Privatize everything" are exactly the same in modern times. Trying to point to FDR despite the fact that we literally have debt that decreases with time and mountains of studies showing that the targets people who tout Balanced Budgets aim for would in fact lose us money by being defunded, is the equivalent of the republicans' "Lincoln was a republican!" poo poo.
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