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I believe YorHa is only planning on eradicating the bad machines.
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All I have to say is 
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Oct 16, 2017 23:40
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Know Such Peace posted:I believe YorHa is only planning on eradicating the bad machines. Oh that's all right then, I'm so relieved.
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Oct 16, 2017 23:43
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I am super excited to watch route C. I think like 90% of the thread has already played it judging by their reactions. HERE WE GOOOOO!!!! Also to quote 2 pages ago. Yes, a Yoko Taro visual novel would be like Doki Doki literature club.
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Oct 16, 2017 23:58
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Josuke Higashikata posted:In today's news: Drakengard! Four! (I can't wait for the ending Yoko Taro said was "a good ending... well, I think so, anyway."
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Oct 17, 2017 00:15
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I love the touch that 2B's "vision" is in black and white due to the armor, just like on the Bunker.
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Oct 17, 2017 00:56
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Know Such Peace posted:I believe YorHa is only planning on eradicating the bad machines. The only good machine is a dead machine.
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Oct 17, 2017 01:41
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Wait... What? Why would they want to win? There aren't any humans to take Earth back. The whole point, unless I totally misunderstand it, is to give the androids something to fight for so they don't get depressed and die. If they actually win, and humans don't show up to resettle Earth, what they hell to they do? I guess you can play the "rebuild civilization" card for a while, but that's going to run out eventually. An eternal stalemate is the end-goal. Oh, this is going to end so, so poorly, one way or another.
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Oct 17, 2017 02:08
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Well, presumably if the machines are defeated the truth about humanity can be revealed and androids can find something new to live for (maybe restoring them from the genetic data on the moon or something). It's just that it's not very helpful to have an existential crisis while the war is still going on.
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Oct 17, 2017 02:13
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Y'all worry too much. The game's director is on record saying it has a happy ending. Everything's going to be fine. 
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Oct 17, 2017 02:15
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Drakengard happy endings would make even a Russian author say "man that's some depressing poo poo."
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Oct 17, 2017 02:18
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The only real disappointment at this stage was that 9s was quickly shoved back into an android body rather than puttering around as a giant machine boy for a bit.
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Oct 17, 2017 02:21
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Who's to say that the machines aren't the real 9s at this point and our new copy is just that? Hell, that would even explain the sudden dire need to eradicate all machines
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Oct 17, 2017 02:23
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Karia posted:Wait... What? Why would they want to win? There aren't any humans to take Earth back. The whole point, unless I totally misunderstand it, is to give the androids something to fight for so they don't get depressed and die. If they actually win, and humans don't show up to resettle Earth, what they hell to they do? I guess you can play the "rebuild civilization" card for a while, but that's going to run out eventually. An eternal stalemate is the end-goal. You're assuming they're being led to victory. That's a dangerous assumption to make.
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Oct 17, 2017 02:50
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It seems pretty ballsy to hide half your game away in a place where a lot of people may just flat out never see it. I wonder how many got bored with all the repeated content in Route B and just stopped playing. I have a real real bad feeling about this Route C business and I don't like those uniforms at all. 
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Oct 17, 2017 03:11
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Zoe posted:It seems pretty ballsy to hide half your game away in a place where a lot of people may just flat out never see it. I wonder how many got bored with all the repeated content in Route B and just stopped playing. With steam achievements we can actually (somewhat) know! 42.1% of people got ending A, while 29.5% got ending B. So definitely a non-insignificant number of people. e: And apparently almost everyone who got ending A went on to do at least 1 hack with 9S, so it wasn't just them stopping at A and being done with it. Saagonsa fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Oct 17, 2017 03:18
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I have absolute faith that we'll reach that happy ending Darth Yoko Taro discussed about. After all, what could possibly go wrong?
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Oct 17, 2017 03:25
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ultrafilter posted:Y'all worry too much. The game's director is on record saying it has a happy ending. Everything's going to be fine. Yeah, but that happy ending was "2B abandons 9S at Copied City." It's all from here on out. 
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Oct 17, 2017 03:26
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Glazius posted:You're assuming they're being led to victory. That's a dangerous assumption to make. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm thinking this may go. "All these androids know that we defeated the machine's leaders. So let's kill them all off and start a new bunch."
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Oct 17, 2017 03:36
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Bruceski posted:Drakengard happy endings would make even a Russian author say "man that's some depressing poo poo." "The sky shattering and releasing a rain of flesh-devouring giant baby revenants was at least an interesting touch though."
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Oct 17, 2017 03:51
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I dunno, I think Yoko Taro's lost his touch. 2 out of 3 endings completed already and nothing significantly bad has happened yet? Nothing super WTF has happened since the robo orgy making a robo womb that spat out a naked Sephiroth who in turn spat out a second naked Sephiroth, way back at the beginning of Route A? I mean, what the hell.
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Oct 17, 2017 03:53
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Considering the kind of people who lived in the Drakengard world, the sky shattering and space babies eating everyone actually was a good ending. Can you imagine if Caim SURVIVED Ending E?
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Oct 17, 2017 03:54
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Saagonsa posted:With steam achievements we can actually (somewhat) know! 42.1% of people got ending A, while 29.5% got ending B. So definitely a non-insignificant number of people. This is par for the course for games these days. People don't finish games, they just buy them and let them sit in their backlog after playing maybe half of it.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:06
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Schwartzcough posted:I dunno, I think Yoko Taro's lost his touch. This is why I said earlier, if you're familiar with his work then yeah, you're not gonna get surprised. This game isn't about the weird twists. If anything you have all the pieces of the puzzle you need to figure out what's gonna happen next. It's how it happens that make the game work. KamikazePotato posted:This is par for the course for games these days. People don't finish games, they just buy them and let them sit in their backlog after playing maybe half of it. I have games in my backlog I haven't even started yet!  Don't worry Skies of Arcadia, I'm sure I'll get to you someday...
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Oct 17, 2017 04:10
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Synthbuttrange posted:The only real disappointment at this stage was that 9s was quickly shoved back into an android body rather than puttering around as a giant machine boy for a bit. Honestly that confuses me. Like, 9S was so corrupted by hacking Eve that 2B had to kill him. Then he copies himself over to the machine network and that somehow makes him... less corrupted?
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Oct 17, 2017 04:11
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KamikazePotato posted:This is par for the course for games these days. People don't finish games, they just buy them and let them sit in their backlog after playing maybe half of it. Look, I WOULD play all my AAA games but FFRK is rereleasing all their old dungeons for a few weeks and I've got a phone that needs tapping.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:12
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I'm not judging. I've been meaning to start Prey for the past two weeks but Fire Emblem Heroes is just always there, only a tap away. Skies of Arcadia is a fantastic game though so I recommend getting to that eventually!
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Oct 17, 2017 04:14
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SatansBestBuddy posted:I have games in my backlog I haven't even started yet! In all seriousness, Skies of Arcadia is a game worth playing.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:15
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Don't worry Skies of Arcadia, I'm sure I'll get to you someday... Oh man, that's almost criminal. I sympathise though.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:17
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Qrr posted:Honestly that confuses me. Like, 9S was so corrupted by hacking Eve that 2B had to kill him. Then he copies himself over to the machine network and that somehow makes him... less corrupted? The 9S consciousness data in his android body was irreparably corrupted by breaching the deepest parts of the network. Presumably the traces of his data he accidentally left behind that propagated itself throughout the machines were on the safer, outer layer of the network.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:17
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Schwartzcough posted:I dunno, I think Yoko Taro's lost his touch. 2 out of 3 endings completed already and nothing significantly bad has happened yet? Nothing super WTF has happened since the robo orgy making a robo womb that spat out a naked Sephiroth who in turn spat out a second naked Sephiroth, way back at the beginning of Route A? I mean, what the hell. They call them endings but really, they're more the endings of Acts 1 and 2, since C path is after both of them.
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Oct 17, 2017 04:54
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Qrr posted:Honestly that confuses me. Like, 9S was so corrupted by hacking Eve that 2B had to kill him. Then he copies himself over to the machine network and that somehow makes him... less corrupted? Or the 9S here is the one they rebooted from the pre-mission backup, and machine-9S has gone into hiding to avoid being killed.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:08
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Qrr posted:Honestly that confuses me. Like, 9S was so corrupted by hacking Eve that 2B had to kill him. Then he copies himself over to the machine network and that somehow makes him... less corrupted? It's like a 1-type RAID array - he copies his whole consciousness over every single machine's internal storage, and then links them all together and outputs from a single source. That way, even if one copy has parts that are corrupted, other parts probably won't be corrupted in the same place, and their non-corrupt copies can simply be accessed instead. The massive redundancy protects him by making it unlikely that every part of his consciousness will be corrupted at the same time. Also the copying over to the machine network happened before he started getting corrupted by contact with Eve, I believe. It's not quite clear, but it is kind of implied.
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Oct 17, 2017 05:09
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The Lone Badger posted:Or the 9S here is the one they rebooted from the pre-mission backup, and machine-9S has gone into hiding to avoid being killed. its would not be an up to date backup, he halted syncing when he hacked the server
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Oct 17, 2017 05:12
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This is where we find out that every single machine that we've killed has actually been 9S all along, right? Maybe the machines have all been 9S for thousands of years. 
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Oct 17, 2017 05:38
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Picayune posted:This is where we find out that every single machine that we've killed has actually been 9S all along, right? I thought you lot were trying to predict bad stuff?
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Oct 17, 2017 05:54
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Picayune posted:This is where we find out that every single machine that we've killed has actually been 9S all along, right? Why the frown?
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Oct 17, 2017 05:58
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The preview makes me think the androids have gone full fascist and that we're going to fight them as A2 or something. Perhaps defending the village from them for some reason.
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Oct 17, 2017 06:19
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Renoistic posted:The preview makes me think the androids have gone full fascist and that we're going to fight them as A2 or something. You didn't think they were fascist with the fancy uniforms and weird salutes?
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Ratoslov posted:You didn't think they were fascist with the fancy uniforms and weird salutes? "Full" fascist. Gothic Lolita dresses and high heels didn't exactly scream fascist oppressors at first, no. Seeing everyone in battle gear definitely ups the ante, even if "Sexy Kerberos" Halloween costume is an apt description. Renoistic fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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