|
Is there a better way to learn all the magic slang that has accumulated over the years than just looking at https://mtg.gamepedia.com/ ? Missing out on large chunks of the game post Scourge(or Onslaught?) has made phrases like Eldrazi Tron or Grixis Energy very abstract and alien things.
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 03:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 15:50 |
|
|
Maarak posted:Is there a better way to learn all the magic slang that has accumulated over the years than just looking at https://mtg.gamepedia.com/ ? Missing out on large chunks of the game post Scourge(or Onslaught?) has made phrases like Eldrazi Tron or Grixis Energy very abstract and alien things. like most things with a ton of lingo i find that immersing yourself in it is the best way. even reading definitions on some wiki doesn't lend the context.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 03:57
|
|
|
I know we already did this but Rosewatta Stone is still going. St. Style Bitches.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 03:58
|
|
|
Maarak posted:Is there a better way to learn all the magic slang that has accumulated over the years than just looking at https://mtg.gamepedia.com/ ? Missing out on large chunks of the game post Scourge(or Onslaught?) has made phrases like Eldrazi Tron or Grixis Energy very abstract and alien things. Eldrazi: giant alien monstrosities from the aptly named set Rise of the Eldrazi Tron: Short for Urzatron, a slang term for the three Urza lands (Mine, Power Plant and Tower); anything called Tron is a deck that tries to get those lands out and then plays very expensive spells afterwards. Grixis: Blue Black Red; comes from Shards of Alara, in which several sets of three colors got official names. The others are Bant (green white blue), Esper (white blue black) Jund (black red green) and Naya (red green white) Energy: a mechanic from Kaladesh, which came out about two years ago. Energy is a second resource that's generated by cards and spent by other cards.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 03:59
|
|
|
Some Numbers posted:Eldrazi: giant alien monstrosities from the aptly named set Rise of the Eldrazi One year for kaladesh
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 04:17
|
|
|
This really didn't have to cost 3.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 04:19
|
|
|
Salvor_Hardin posted:I know we already did this but Rosewatta Stone is still going. Oh lord I forgot all about that account. Why wasn't I following it?  Out of its recent posts, St. Style Bitches probably wins the title category, with runners-up Gideon Tried and Of Course Hazoret. But. I'm absolutely losing my poo poo at this overall card:  It just keeps improving the further down the card you go.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 04:30
|
|
|
Lol nice: Having to carry photos of rural wildlife to trigger abilities would be great for a silver-border set.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 04:40
|
|
|
Pac-Manioc Root posted:Lol nice: I like how it spells beetle differently twice
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 05:08
|
|
|
Photos of rural life.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 05:14
|
|
|
Magic: The Gathering: Photos of Rural Life
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 05:22
|
|
|
LordAbaddon posted:I like how it spells beetle differently twice The flavour text is actually about John Lennon.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 06:05
|
|
|
 Guys I accidentally shot the cards 
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 06:20
|
|
|
Anil Dasharez0ne posted:This got me thinking about which cards actually have a consensus on them being safe or unsafe to unban, and which ones have a lot of uncertainly or disagreement. So I put together a quick poll to try to get some actual data - it asks about the entire ban list, but you can answer for as many or as few cards as you like. If enough people respond to get meaningful numbers out of I'll do a write-up somewhere down the line. After 18 responses, here are all the cards where the majority of respondents voted "could go either way" or safer: Bloodbraid Elf Green Sun's Zenith Jace, the Mind Sculptor Ponder Preordain Second Sunrise Stoneforge Mystic Summer Bloom This seems like it would be a pretty reasonable set of cards to allow in a test Thunderdome if someone wanted to run one.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 06:39
|
|
|
second sunrise is never getting unbanned since it wasn't broken(merely good) in the first place and was basically banned because it made matches take too long
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 06:41
|
|
|
Anil Dasharez0ne posted:After 18 responses, here are all the cards where the majority of respondents voted "could go either way" or safer: loving lol at unbanning these.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 06:57
|
|
|
I'm still super new so this is gonna be a stupid question, but isn't it almost impossible to unban anything in modern since the format doesn't change in large ways from set to set? Most of the cards in my limited understanding like warped the format before their banning. So if they were unbanned tomorrow they'd go right back to the top of the heap. I was thinking specifically of the Eye of Ugin Eldrazi decks that got the name Eldrazi winter for their time period. Am I just underestimating how much Modern actually changes, or am I right in thinking that decks using say Splinter Twin or Eye of Ugin would still be just as broken?
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 07:25
|
|
|
ChaosReaper posted:I'm still super new so this is gonna be a stupid question, but isn't it almost impossible to unban anything in modern since the format doesn't change in large ways from set to set? Most of the cards in my limited understanding like warped the format before their banning. So if they were unbanned tomorrow they'd go right back to the top of the heap. I was thinking specifically of the Eye of Ugin Eldrazi decks that got the name Eldrazi winter for their time period. Am I just underestimating how much Modern actually changes, or am I right in thinking that decks using say Splinter Twin or Eye of Ugin would still be just as broken? It's worth remembering that some of the cards discussed (Jace the Mind Sculptor; Stoneforge Mystic) have never actually had their shot in a real Modern environment. Both were on the initial Modern banlist when the format was introduced right on the tails of their Standard banning back in 2010, with the fear that those cards would be format warping even there (probably a correct call to be somewhat careful back there).
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 07:37
|
|
|
You're underestimating how much Modern actually changes. Every eternal format - even Legacy and Vintage - powers up incrementally with each new set. A card that's truly broken, like Skullclamp, is unlikely to ever be unbanned, but cards that were merely kind of above par can easily have the format catch up to them over several years (and this is ignoring that some of the bans were debatable in the first place). For the cards you mentioned, Eye of Ugin is not getting unbanned; it was only banned like 2 years ago and Eldrazi Tron is a tier 1 deck even without it. I could definitely see a world where like 5 years from now they decide to unban it though. Splinter Twin is an interesting case because it's not even clear it should have been banned on power level in the first place, but I don't think that's at the top of their unban list either. Personally, I think the most likely card for them to unban is Bloodbraid Elf. The card was banned almost 5 years ago in a format that looked completely different where Jund was the clearly dominant deck. Now? Those classic BGx midrange Liliana Tarmogoyf decks don't see a ton of top level play anymore. There's no other clear home for the card, and it costs 4. Format staples like Collected Company, Thought-Knot Seer, Monastery Swiftspear, and Tasigur hadn't been printed yet. Is it really still too good? You can construct similar arguments for some other cards.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 07:58
|
|
|
Mezzanon posted:loving lol at unbanning these. I'd be happy with a GSZ unban and a Dryad Arbor ban. GSZ is much worse than Traverse the Ulvenwald since it has a higher deckbuilding cost and is less powerful, assuming it's not also a mana creature when fetching Arbor. Banning Dryad Arbor is also cool and good because it makes Bogles worse and because the FTV version of Dryad Arbor is totally bullshit.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 08:03
|
|
|
Madmarker posted:Seriously, it was a fun deck to play, but created an absolutely miserable environment for everyone else. I'm glad it is dead. As someone who never played when it was around, what was so so bad about it?
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 08:32
|
|
|
If you don't have the answer to the splinter twin combo on turn 4+, you lose the game. Twin also ran izzet colors, so it had tons of interaction and the best card selection in the format.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 08:42
|
|
|
Omar al-Bishie posted:As someone who never played when it was around, what was so so bad about it? At any point on your turn where your opponent had three mana in play, you could never tap out without risking immediate death. If at any point you give the opponent the opportunity to play a Deceiver Exarch or Pestermite without any risk, they can untap and play a Splinter Twin and kill you. Fatal Push being a one mana answer for both Pestermite and Exarch (with a fetch) makes unbanning Twin not crazy, but even if Twin is weaker it's still a bad play pattern to encourage. Just having to decide between "welp if you have it I'm dead, gonna put my head down and just cast my spells" or "welp I can't cast anything, guess I'll just pass back" feels pretty miserable. With Opt in the format and Ancestral Visions unbanned I think unbanning Twin is probably not a great idea, since the best case scenario is Twin comes back, it's just another adequate deck, and people get to enjoy the possibility of the opposing control decks outright killing them on turn four like all the other decks in Modern.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 08:46
|
|
|
Elyv posted:second sunrise is never getting unbanned since it wasn't broken(merely good) in the first place and was basically banned because it made matches take too long Love that deck.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 09:44
|
|
|
Hellsau posted:At any point on your turn where your opponent had three mana in play, you could never tap out without risking immediate death. If at any point you give the opponent the opportunity to play a Deceiver Exarch or Pestermite without any risk, they can untap and play a Splinter Twin and kill you. Unban Twin, ban Deceiver and Pestermite. Make you earn it with Bell-Ringer, Midnight Guard or Conscripts.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 09:55
|
|
|
Hellsau posted:and because the FTV version of Dryad Arbor is totally bullshit. What the gently caress are you talking about?
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 12:10
|
|
|
The Sexual Shiite posted:What the gently caress are you talking about? It looks exactly like a basic Forest from across a table.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 12:15
|
|
|
Mezzanon posted:loving lol at unbanning these. Seriously. Hellsau posted:I'd be happy with a GSZ unban and a Dryad Arbor ban. GSZ is much worse than Traverse the Ulvenwald since it has a higher deckbuilding cost and is less powerful, assuming it's not also a mana creature when fetching Arbor. Banning Dryad Arbor is also cool and good because it makes Bogles worse and because the FTV version of Dryad Arbor is totally bullshit. Putting green creatures in your deck is hardly a bigger deckbuilding cost than being able to get 4 card types in your graveyard quickly enough to be able to use Traverse.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 12:27
|
|
|
Card price scholars- do you see Gideon of the Trials maintaining its ~$20 price point post-rotation? I kind of want one or two for Modern where I know it's seeing some play, but I feel like it's going to slowly go down in price like other recently-printed and Eternally-playable walkers like Nahiri and Liliana, and I'm not really in a rush to get them.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 12:29
|
|
|
Omar al-Bishie posted:As someone who never played when it was around, what was so so bad about it? Babylon Astronaut posted:If you don't have the answer to the splinter twin combo on turn 4+, you lose the game. Twin also ran izzet colors, so it had tons of interaction and the best card selection in the format. 3+ Starting on turn three, Twin could threaten to EOT Pestermite/Deceiver Exarch (tapping 1 of your lands) and then untap, drop a land and main phase the namesake enchantment winning on the spot. This meant that starting on twin's turn three you could never tap out. This was fine for merfolk as Aether Vial meant that merfolk could continue applying pressure while never tapping out, and having a threat that also bounced the enchanted creature, but for just about every other deck this meant having to choose between developing your board/strategy, or just losing if twin had it. Meanwhile, since twins combo pieces were tempo creatures, backed with removal and counterspells, it could simply play an aggro-control game, often killing you without even using its combo. Heck games 2/3 savvy twin players would often completely remove the combo from the deck, as their opponent was still forced to respect it, thereby giving twin more control slots to dominate the opponent while the opponent was under an effective sphere of resistance or worse for most of the game.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 13:27
|
|
|
Only good thing about twin was it meant loxodon smiter was a decent card that they had a hard time beating. I really miss using that dumb elephant. I really don't miss having to play around twin or dedicate sideboard slots specifically to beat it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 13:33
|
|
|
Mezzanon posted:loving lol at unbanning these. GSZ is fine
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 13:57
|
|
|
When we would play at the Virtual Gaming Center in Milwaukee, Wisconsin as teens, my friend and I earned the moniker "The Black Border Brothers" because for aesthetic reasons we eschewed white-bordered reprints in building our decks. I find it kind of funny coming back as a middle aged dork white borders are now the mark of cards at least a dozen years old. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Oct 18, 2017 |
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 14:49
|
|
|
Pac-Manioc Root posted:I find it kind of funny coming back as a middle aged dork white borders are now the mark of cards at least a dozen years old. I play 8th edition white boarder lands (the best lands) in any of my tournament decks at one of my 3 local LGS's Everyone is using Zendikar or Amonkhet full arts and once I drop the white boarder land I get a look like I just murdered then devoured their first born child
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 15:05
|
|
|
80s James Hetfield posted:I play 8th edition white boarder lands (the best lands) in any of my tournament decks at one of my 3 local LGS's The Unstable lands look good as Hell.  Gonna agitate for an Unstable draft at my FLGS, after reading all the spoilers and making sure I bring a nerf blaster and all the other needful things.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 15:13
|
|
|
Pac-Manioc Root posted:The Unstable lands look good as Hell. I am a little shocked at how many people don't like these lands. They are loving amazing.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 15:18
|
|
|
Sickening posted:I am a little shocked at how many people don't like these lands. They are loving amazing. The only thing I can think someone might not like is the unconventional card frame, but they have messed with the frame so many times who cares? P clear from across the table what kind of basic land it is, which is all that matters to me from a practical gameplay stance. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Oct 18, 2017 |
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 15:20
|
|
|
The only one I don't really like is the Plains. The others are incredible.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 15:20
|
|
|
the mountain is absolutely gorgeous, turns out taking away that dumb text box with nothing in it really lets you show things like height and depth
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 15:20
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 15:50 |
|
|
Sickening posted:I am a little shocked at how many people don't like these lands. They are loving amazing. They are pretty awesome but I cant get behind the card name boxes at the top. They just feel jarring to me.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2017 15:22
|
|
