CanPol Megathread: Big Changus

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HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

Dreylad posted:

That's the sense I get about Nickleback, too. They're big on the west coast if i understand correctly, and lots of rural places, but not as omnipresent as you'd think.

I live on the west coast and have literally never met a single person that actually likes Nickleback.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:34

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# ? May 30, 2024 03:28

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

HookShot posted:

I have literally never met a single person that actually likes Nickleback.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:42

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

Dreylad posted:

That's the sense I get about Nickleback, too. They're big on the west coast if i understand correctly, and lots of rural places, but not as omnipresent as you'd think.

Nickelback is absolutely not big on the west coast. And the Hip are very popular and well known here.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:43

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club

The Hip pretty much defines the prairie provinces.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:48

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

McGavin posted:

They celebrate white genocide, so they can't be all bad.

I would love any of the loving "white genocide" morons to actually define "the white race" for me.

What combination of recessive genetic defects are they trying to protect here?

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:53

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

infernal machines posted:

I would love any of the loving "white genocide" morons to actually define "the white race" for me.

What combination of recessive genetic defects are they trying to protect here?

"Anyone who can receive a public service in Quebec without having their s.2 rights violated"

Burqa bill now burqa law, start your stopwatches for the inevitable (successful) charter challenge.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:54

Suplex Liberace: Jan 18, 2012

Vintersorg posted:

The Hip pretty much defines the prairie provinces.

Every rock station plays a hip song every hour on the hour it feels like.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:56

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Vintersorg posted:

gently caress The Rebel and anyone who reads it for their real news.

Good news! They're attached at the hip with the Conservative party leader and the 2019 campaign!

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:05

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

tfw knowing that if the Conservatives win you will probably lose your job in 2019

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:07

Wirth1000: May 12, 2010; #essereFerrari

littleorv posted:

tfw knowing that if the Conservatives win you will probably lose your job in 2019

I'll be lucky if all I lose is a job and not put in a camp.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:09

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

Wirth1000 posted:

I'll be lucky if all I lose is a job and not put in a camp.

Hey now, it's not a competition

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:11

EngineerJoe: Aug 8, 2004; -=whore=-

Wirth1000 posted:

I'll be lucky if all I lose is a job and not put in a camp.

Work sets you free

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:26

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Huh, weirdly the Liberals aren't scrambling to offer tax incentives to Amazon.

"The Financial Post posted:

Ontario�s big pitch for Amazon.com Inc.�s second home doesn�t currently include a massive tax break for the company, just the promise of highly educated potential employees whose presence will help the e-commerce giant save on labour costs.

And while Amazon will have access to various incentives the province has made available to other companies in the past � a business support system that provided a grant to Cisco Systems Inc. worth up to $220 million, among other acts of government generosity � officials say they aren�t offering anything new in wooing the online retailer�s second North American headquarters, or HQ2.

�We�re not going to buy Amazon to come here,� Ontario Economic Development Minister Brad Duguid told reporters Wednesday morning at Toronto�s Royal York hotel. �We don�t need to buy Amazon to come here, because we have the competitiveness and the best talent base anywhere in North America today.�

Duguid�s remarks followed a speech for the Canadian Club Toronto by former TD Bank Group chief executive Ed Clark, who outlined the province�s plan.

Clark serves as Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne�s business adviser, and said she asked him to steer the province�s approach to helping cities make the official bids for Amazon�s HQ2, which the company has said will include $5 billion in construction investment and up to 50,000 �high-paying� jobs.

Clark predicted Ontario would win Amazon�s sweepstakes for its second North American headquarters if politics don�t come into play. The protectionist Trump White House has no great affection for one of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos� other ventures, The Washington Post newspaper.

�If that�s not a constraint, we�re hands-down the winner,� Clark said.

But Ontario�s angle also stands in contrast to the bid offered by New Jersey, where Governor Chris Christie announced this week up to $7 billion in potential tax incentives over 10 years for Amazon to locate HQ2 in Newark.

�The Ontario government is not offering any new financial incentives to Amazon � nor any incentives that are not available to others who seek to grow or locate such jobs here,� Clark said.

�I think when someone gives you the ($7 billion), they�re saying �I�m not actually competitive, you would never come here if I didn�t give you this money,�� he told reporters later. �That is what those governments are saying, and we�re saying you should come here, because this is the right place.�

Instead, Ontario is going after Amazon�s heart by going after its labour needs. The province announced Wednesday it intends to increase the number of science, technology, engineering and math graduates in the province by 25 per cent over the next five years, to 50,000 per year from 40,000, meaning no other North American state or province would be churning out more STEM graduates per capita than Ontario, Clark said.

The province will also spend another $30 million on boosting the number of graduates steeped in artificial intelligence. These changes will take place whether Amazon comes to Ontario or not, Clark said.

Clark also said Amazon�s own figures suggest real estate is just 10 per cent of the company�s expenses, while the company faces about $5 billion per year in salary costs. He noted that if a government can offer Amazon a 30 per cent discount on those labour expenses, the savings of about $1.5 billion annually would be �staggering.�

�This talent is more competitively priced than in the United States,� he said.

Amazon outlined its preferences for HQ2 in a request for proposal document released last month, wherein the company said it is eyeing a metropolitan area with a population of more than one million for its second home. Since the company announced the contest, city after North American city has voiced interest in a bid, including Canadian ones such as Toronto, Halifax, Calgary and Vancouver.

The deadline for submitting HQ2 proposals is Thursday.

Amazon has hinted it will take a lot of generosity to win the HQ2 sweepstakes. The company�s request for proposals asked for �a summary of total incentives offered for the Project by the state/province and local community.� It also asked for �relevant crime data and cost of living data.�

�A stable and business-friendly environment and tax structure will be high-priority considerations for the Project,� the RFP said. �Incentives offered by the state/province and local communities to offset initial capital outlay and ongoing operational costs will be significant factors in the decision-making process.�

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:27

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

lol if any of you actually think amazon is going to put an hq in canada

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:29

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Amazon HQ is going to go in Winnipeg as Brian Pallister has personally promised an hj to Jeff Bezos

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:30

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

even if that were true and this pallister guy had d cup boobs and blonde hair, what advantage does winnipeg have over Langford, jewel of the Juan de Fucker strait

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:31

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Fine we'll throw in an fj from the mayor of Winnipeg as well. Combine that with no existing tech sector and a poorly educated workforce I think we have a winning bid

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:33

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

infernal machines posted:

�This talent is more competitively priced than in the United States,� he said.

I like this line because it's just neoliberal speak for "we pay our workers less lol gently caress them"

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:38

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

vyelkin posted:

I like this line because it's just neoliberal speak for "we pay our workers less lol gently caress them"

The major cause of brain drain and somehow simultaneously a draw for American tech firms.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:40

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

DariusLikewise posted:

Fine we'll throw in an fj from the mayor of Winnipeg as well. Combine that with no existing tech sector and a poorly educated workforce I think we have a winning bid

Is this why the tax credit for university graduates to stay in Manitoba was cut?

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:47

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

namaste faggots posted:

even if that were true and this pallister guy had d cup boobs and blonde hair, what advantage does winnipeg have over Langford, jewel of the Juan de Fucker strait

We're the geographic center of the continent!

BTW this statement was literally listed as a pro by people in the administration trying to sell Winnipeg to Amazon.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:48

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

They do realize they're not building a distribution centre, right?

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:53

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

littleorv posted:

Is this why the tax credit for university graduates to stay in Manitoba was cut?

No that was so Brian Pallister could provide hurricane support to costa rica

also lol this just popped up on my Twitter

https://twitter.com/SpiringDayna/status/920721663435706373

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:56

thehoodie: Feb 8, 2011; "Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"

I've never listened to the Tragically Hip before today and I'm really enjoying it and can see why they were so loved. But seems to me like the guitarist is the real star of the band? Is this a controversial opinion?

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:13

Moist von Lipwig: Oct 28, 2006; by FactsAreUseless; Tortured By Flan

HookShot posted:

I live on the west coast and have literally never met a single person that actually likes Nickleback.

I've worked with like 4 in Toronto.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:25

odiv: Jan 12, 2003

DariusLikewise posted:

also lol this just popped up on my Twitter

https://twitter.com/SpiringDayna/status/920721663435706373

Why no lines coming up North?

(We know why.)

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:34

Arc Hammer: Mar 4, 2013; Got any deathsticks?

Moist von Lipwig posted:

I've worked with like 4 in Toronto.

Found your problem

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:41

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

DariusLikewise posted:

No that was so Brian Pallister could provide hurricane support to costa rica

also lol this just popped up on my Twitter

https://twitter.com/SpiringDayna/status/920721663435706373

What a waste of money

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:42

mashed: Jul 27, 2004

Its funny that there are no lines going north from Winnipeg in that graphic. Which kind of defeats the point of being in the center. I'd also hazard a guess that Amazon is better at logistics than whoever made that pamphlet.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:49

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

So proud Canadians, give one good reason why Amazon should move here?

Then give one good reason why anyone would want them to.

:laugh:

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:55

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

You'd hope so, but also, they're building a business HQ, not a distribution center.

namaste faggots posted:

So proud Canadians, give one good reason why Amazon should move here?

Then give one good reason why anyone would want them to.

And there's this, what with them having a horrible corporate culture and all.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 20:55

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

namaste faggots posted:

So proud Canadians, give one good reason why Amazon should move here?

Then give one good reason why anyone would want them to.

So they can fill the hole left in our nation's soul by the death of our lord and saviour Gord Downie, with bad jobs and lovely consumer goods, obviously.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:01

HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

namaste faggots posted:

So proud Canadians, give one good reason why Amazon should move here?

Then give one good reason why anyone would want them to.

They can teach us how good capitalism is under a system with at-will employ....hahahaha I can't even type that with a straight face.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:06

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

namaste faggots posted:

So proud Canadians, give one good reason why Amazon should move here?

Then give one good reason why anyone would want them to.

Because a terrible company is a perfect match for the terrible people who live in Canada

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:06

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Vintersorg posted:

The Hip pretty much defines the prairie provinces.

What about The Weakerthans?

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:14

odiv: Jan 12, 2003

DariusLikewise posted:

https://twitter.com/SpiringDayna/status/920721663435706373

Hey guys, where is Toronto anyway?

edit: seriously though, isn't that more like London?

odiv fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Oct 18, 2017

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:16

SulfurMonoxideCute: Feb 9, 2008; I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Put Amazon in Calgary so we can finally kill the oil industry.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:22

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

HQ2 isn't coming anywhere in canada but toronto, and otherwise will go to the us. The HQ2 bidding shenanigans is simply free marketing for Amazon in every city who overthinks their self worth.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:25

BGrifter: Mar 16, 2007; Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

Gord Downie seemed like a good dude, cancer sucks. The Hip were just the musical equivalent of Tim Hortons though.

I guess they�re ok if you�re the sort of person who gets all weepy and patriotic over the Tims commercials with dads and their sons at hockey practice in Shitheap, ON.

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Segue: May 23, 2007

thehoodie posted:

I've never listened to the Tragically Hip before today and I'm really enjoying it and can see why they were so loved. But seems to me like the guitarist is the real star of the band? Is this a controversial opinion?

I'm a huge fan of the Hip and have always maintained that Rob Baker is criminally underrated. The guy just bleeds excellent hooks.

I think the Gord Downie and the Hip are huge among white Canadians and embody that white rural Canada image that we have of ourselves.

But all I've seen today is those same white people talk about how they define Canada. My friends who are people of colour or are Francos have much less of an investment in them which is why all the talk around them "defining Canada" during their last tour and now makes me uncomfortable.

They're an amazing rock band but they're huge only to a specific group of people that seems relatively homogeneous.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 21:37

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