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Dreamsicle posted:What's a group/organization people won't like in 2023? Let's just say were using the bote to make sure they don't do anything bad. The Bilderberg Group? Deutsche Bank? Eurodiktator for life Jean Claude Juncker?
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You’re thinking too linearly. Assign the boat to a shell company called Greater Orbital Observation and Network Science (remember, the last time someone tried a shell company name that blatant, it was hilariously effective). Have some of the
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power crystals posted:You’re thinking too linearly. Assign the boat to a shell company called Greater Orbital Observation and Network Science (remember, the last time someone tried a shell company name that blatant, it was hilariously effective). Have some of the Works for me. But could we make reference to it being protected so it doesn't look like an easy target staffed be geeks. Maybe include a reference to stairs too?
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Oct 18, 2017 22:05
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Just do what the Egyptians did. https://imgur.com/yu1DeBQ Edit: gently caress it i dont know how to embed it. Saint Celestine fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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Oct 18, 2017 22:09
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power crystals posted:You’re thinking too linearly. Assign the boat to a shell company called Greater Orbital Observation and Network Science (remember, the last time someone tried a shell company name that blatant, it was hilariously effective). Have some of the Its a lot of work to do to then have our hundred million dolla bote done over by 3 sea cadets in a dinghy with a .22
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DesperateDan posted:Its a lot of work to do to then have our hundred million dolla bote done over by 3 sea cadets in a dinghy with a .22 I didn't say we should do that to the exclusion of also guarding it with actual weapons and poo poo  just make it look like we're using it in impossibly stupid ways. GOONS can keep us on retainer to escort it.
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Oct 18, 2017 22:25
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What would happen if the boat was hired for paparazzi purposes? Or if that was a "secret" mission that leaked as a cover story for how else we get money?
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Oct 18, 2017 22:30
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 Voting went fairly well. I did a basic STV on my spreadsheet and used that to determine if we do a runoff vote. As it is, one supplier had a majority.  On planes it was a bit closer. Had it been close enough where the BFLM & Ivanov votes could've swung it we would have done another vote. But as it was the winner pulled ahead.  And of course, the option. I'm sure you all know where this is going right?  Someone contact the Admiral, drag him out of the Pacific, and make sure he has plenty of squeaky toys. The Croctopus Admiral sails again.  And now to the 3dPrint phase. Our friends at OHMSM are now taking orders on the above jets. The factory is still being set up so they are unable to make any additional airframes. Yet. For some rarer airframes it may be neccessary for us to "acquire" blueprints or even the plane itself. More details later! So, it's time to make a PROPOSAL. Once we have a few proposals then we'll vote!  Please use the above tag to denote your official proposal. Back to you Hired Goons!
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Oct 18, 2017 22:46
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8 Bisons + 4 Floggers = 140 million Bisons because we really could use some more A2A besides just the Gripens. Floggers because we have holes in our low level A2G capabilities which they'd work quite well to fulfill with the AS-7/10/12/14, and they can also toss 4 LGBs/TV bombs apiece if we so desire. Also, just about everything in the  Not-PGM Arsenal bar the Really Big Bombs and 266mm rokkits.
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Oct 18, 2017 22:53
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There's only one thing available that we should consider, so with that in mind I propose: Populating the herd 1) Buy 16x MiG-21N UPG Bison for $120 million 2) Evaluate the cost of the Su-27S Flanker as a printable airframe we were offered by the Ivanovs. Capable of carrying BVRAAMs the match of the early AMRAAM or a pair of TV-guided bombs, the Bison is far more capable as a total package than the other available choices. $7.5m per airframe for these is an absolute steal and we should snag as many of them as we can get away with. Besides with the Gripens coming in we need a cheap BVRAAM chucker and until we can get Flankers up and going there's nothing anywhere near as good as the Fishbed around.
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Oct 18, 2017 22:55
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Next procurement round we ARE getting Tomcats. This is not up for debate. There will be no arguments against this. Enjoy your shiny bauble that’ll sink as soon as it sets sail.
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Oct 18, 2017 23:06
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We can get 3D-printed A-10s! Although apparently as a late 70s plane they will have a modest failure rate.
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Oct 18, 2017 23:08
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If I am actually a catbird pilot https://imgur.com/Rn8SkBw Then I have the perfect nose art. I'm just sad we already had a pilot named Potoo The Most Majestic Of Birbs.
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Oct 18, 2017 23:09
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I'd nitpick the number but those things are so bizarrely cheap that yeah just get a bunch of Bisons, give or take a couple. Yooper, I think I'm in the next batch of pilots unless I'm reading the doc wrong, can I dibs a F-117? I love the Stinkbug.
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HereticMIND posted:Next procurement round we ARE getting Tomcats. It's an intelligence ship, not a goddamn Pegasus hydrofoil! We're not going to throw it at the enemy like some kind of PCH! As to the 3d print buy... 16x MiG-21N UPG Bison x $7.5 mil = $120 million Rationale: They aren't bad planes, but we'll need a mass of them, especially if we're still on "planes fly alternate missions" mode. 4x MiG-27K Flogger J x $20 mil = $80 million Rationale: These actually make a very elegant little replacement for our old Phantoms in the "drop 2000lb LGBs" role. Total: $200 million
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HereticMIND posted:Next procurement round we ARE getting Tomcats. Somewhere in Frankfurt, HG maintenance staff adds one more name to "people to murder when revolution comes" list.
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Oct 18, 2017 23:20
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Quinntan posted:
I'll be voting for this. Eight as per the other proposal isn't enough, there's a 1 mission lag time for procurement so if we lose the crapbucket air force one mission we're poo poo out of luck next mission unless we already have some in reserve. e: considering the 4 floggers, but I think we do need all 16 bisons TheDemon fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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Oct 18, 2017 23:22
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HereticMIND posted:Next procurement round we ARE getting Tomcats. 
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This is NOT up for negotiation. We ARE getting Tomcats.
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Warcrimes Inc 4x MiG-21N UPG Bison = $30 million 8x MiG-27K Flogger J x $20 mil = $160 million With a nice big wing or two smaller wings of Floggers we can lay out a nice carpet of fiery death for our opponents while the small number of Bisons can help complement our other fighter aircraft.
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HereticMIND posted:This is NOT up for negotiation. We ARE getting Tomcats. You said that this round, too. I mean, I also want Tomcats, but you're kind of overdoing it.
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I want Tomcats too, but not enough to turn down far better alternatives. As bonus planes, sure, but not as a core purchase. (Comedy option: 3D print Iranian F-14s with I-Hawks.) Quinntan posted:
Nthing this. (Now quoting the right post!) PenguinSalsa fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Oct 18, 2017 23:59
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Nick Esasky posted:
Vote: 8 Bisons + 4 Floggers = 140 million This should be a reasonable start; Folks, let's not blow our entire reserve before we even get in-theater. The 7 + 1 Gripens (/sigh how I loath to type that word), 4 Xperimental Uber-Planes, 8 Bisons + 4 Floggers, and the planes we have left is more than enough air assets to complete missions even with the maintenance rotation. HereticMIND posted:Enjoy your shiny bauble that’ll sink as soon as it sets sail. Yep. Let's see how long the novelty lasts; the crowd is fickle 'round these parts.
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aphid_licker posted:I'd nitpick the number but those things are so bizarrely cheap that yeah just get a bunch of Bisons, give or take a couple. Yes, you would've been in line for a Gripen, but if you'd like an F-117 that's cool too. Punched my v-card at camp will instead get your Gripen.
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That reminds me, due to the odd circumstances around the Reaper's death, did MEAT get sent back to the end of the list or returned to active duty for one of the new ones? I don't care either way, I'm just curious since that was such a one-off thing.
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HereticMIND posted:This is NOT up for negotiation. We ARE getting Tomcats. We're gonna get like, 20 decommissioned Coast Guard cutters and an attack sub.
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paragon1 posted:We're gonna get like, 20 decommissioned Coast Guard cutters and an attack sub. As head of the Gorshkov lobby, I demand that we steal several of them.
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paragon1 posted:We're gonna get like, 20 decommissioned Coast Guard cutters and an attack sub. Ooh, are they gonna be the ones the Coasties bolted a Harpoon launcher to in the 80s?
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seconding Populating the Herd Also someone get that bote a cote of paint, rust is showing
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power crystals posted:That reminds me, due to the odd circumstances around the Reaper's death, did MEAT get sent back to the end of the list or returned to active duty for one of the new ones? I don't care either way, I'm just curious since that was such a one-off thing. MEAT is currently slotted to pilot Reaper A. However should you want another berth let me know. Also, should anyone want to sail with either the Marjata, or one of the three Karel Doormans, please request now. I also have two ZSU-23-4's and an I-HAWK up for grabs. Lemme know if interested. I figured the ground assets were low priority.
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The more I look at the MiG-21s, the more I like them. A/A wise, they get a great WVR missile and a half decent BVR missile, better than sparrows and just a little worse than early model AMRAAMs. A/G, you have your standard selection of UGBs, rockets, and sparkmaster fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Yooper posted:. . . sail with either the Marjata, or one of the three Karel Doormans . . . /angry, angry glare Yooper posted:I also have two ZSU-23-4's and an I-HAWK up for grabs. Lemme know if interested. I figured the ground assets were low priority.[/b] LoSA will volunteer to crew the I-HAWK until an attack plane slot opens up, or, we get a bomber, whichever comes first.
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CourValant posted:LoSA will volunteer to crew the I-HAWK until an attack plane slot opens up, or, we get a bomber, whichever comes first. Done! I think you'll find some action with the I-HAWK in this theater.
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Yooper posted:Done! I think you'll find some action with the I-HAWK in this theater. Thanks; that's what I figured. Between the Location, the Geo-Political Players, and the fact that its the Cola-Wars finally kicking off, its going to be a target rich environment for the S2A folks. Also, LoSA is going to spend every waking second trying to figure out how to 'accidentally' shoot a -23B at that Marjata. "I have no idea how it happened, I accidentally left the keys in and went to get a cup of tea."
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Why are people so pissed off about us getting a useful intelligence asset?
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Well, I died, so go ahead and stick Gemini in a plane when the list wraps back around. If we end up buying a 3D printed Flogger and there's one available I'd like that, but I'll take anything. On the 3D printing procurement, I like the 8 Bison + 4 Flogger option.
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Speaking of replacements, when Hank the Chog comes back I'd prefer a plane mainly suited for ground attack but any will do if push comes to shove. Now I need to come up with story reason how his callsign was changed. Or I could make a lazy retcon
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Well, Space Case just lost their plane last mission, but I'll volunteer to be the Croctopus' first mate or captain a Doorman if that's allowed. I feel like I kinda have to at least put my name in the hat as a founding member of Bote Lobby. I'll totally give up my slot to anyone ahead of me in the queue if they ask for it, though, don't wanna hog it after dying 3 days ago.
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Nick Esasky posted:
I like this idea. The Floggers are cheapo ground attack for days when the Tornadoes are busy (or when we don't want to risk them). Quinntan posted:
I don't think we need that many Bisons, esp if we are also looking to invest in Flankers. We can't the Ivnov's top-notch Su-27s, unfortunately. The only ones we can buy are the old 1989 Frontal Aviation Su-27S Flanker B (http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/134/) 1989 = $89 million in tooling costs. $22 million a piece. (https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/06/07/fighter-jet-worlds-top-10-best-sellers.aspx) So, to buy eight would cost $265 million. Ten would be $309 million. Twelve would be $353 million. We have a shade over $350 million in the bank now. So we'd need to make sure we only spend around $90 mil on 3DP this round unless we want to cut into the Flanker Fund. Bacarruda fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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