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PantsBandit posted:Just played a QM game against a team made up of: Malthael, Lucio, Garrosh, Stukov, Artanis. I would be hard pressed to counter that in draft, matching against it in QM was loving awful. Impossible to kill, absurd amounts of displacement, and not even short on damage because Malth is just marking everyone. Fuuuuuck that. What was your team comp? I feel like this team has zero initiate. Stukov heals are hell broken though
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Schneider Inside Her posted:What was your team comp? I feel like this team has zero initiate. Stukov heals are hell broken though The initation is Artanis swaps and Garrosh pulls aided by Lucio speed.
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Oct 19, 2017 06:15
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My pet hate is Artanis players flailing away on cooldown missing every swap then once or twice per game landing one purely by chance and being rewarded with a free kill (or team wipe). Also, there's something about the animation that makes Artanis look like the dumbest idiot hero in the game when he misses that combo.
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Kalko posted:Also, there's something about the animation that makes Artanis look like the dumbest idiot hero in the game when he misses that combo.
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Oct 19, 2017 07:06
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I froth over big swaps
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After a bunch of games with junkrat im gonna rate him a 2/5. His gimmick or whatever is fun but his damage numbers just suck way too much. Hes like Lunara in that most of his dmg is just meaningless splash. His sustain is pretty crap since his autoattack range is basically Tychus levels of short and his healthpool is so low you'll never want to even get that close. His lvl 4 Q talent either needs to be tuned way up or it needs to cap at something reasonable and have it reduce the cooldown of frag to like 50% or something. The only other talents to reduce it are all the way at 16 and compete with a better talent already. Most of his talents are actually pretty bleh. I guess you can maybe justify the extra bouncing one but its extremely map dependent. I dont see him being that great in anything other than loving around vs AI. Maybe you pick him on towers or cursed to harass the obj if you have a team that can pick up the slack but other than that yeah...pretty fun but lousy.
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banned from Starbucks posted:After a bunch of games with junkrat im gonna rate him a 2/5. His gimmick or whatever is fun but his damage numbers just suck way too much. Hes like Lunara in that most of his dmg is just meaningless splash. His sustain is pretty crap since his autoattack range is basically Tychus levels of short and his healthpool is so low you'll never want to even get that close. His lvl 4 Q talent either needs to be tuned way up or it needs to cap at something reasonable and have it reduce the cooldown of frag to like 50% or something. The only other talents to reduce it are all the way at 16 and compete with a better talent already. Most of his talents are actually pretty bleh. I guess you can maybe justify the extra bouncing one but its extremely map dependent. I dont see him being that great in anything other than loving around vs AI. Maybe you pick him on towers or cursed to harass the obj if you have a team that can pick up the slack but other than that yeah...pretty fun but lousy. Yeah I'm not too impressed by him either.
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Oct 19, 2017 12:41
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Same. His ults are good but his damage is just low outside of them
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Oct 19, 2017 13:21
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He does insane sustained damage at 16 if the enemy clumps up though with his Q CDR. If you hit two enemies with each shot you can just spam forever.
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Oct 19, 2017 14:08
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Holy crap Ana is difficult to play. I finish darts quest at like level 20. I'm like 1-5 with her in QM. Not being able to macro, at all, is downright unbearable. Supports, never again.
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Oct 19, 2017 14:42
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No Wave posted:Holy crap Ana is difficult to play. I finish darts quest at like level 20. I'm like 1-5 with her in QM. Not being able to macro, at all, is downright unbearable. Supports, never again. I got matched with Ana as Tracer this morning and the other assassin on our team was Illidan. We pulled through somehow and our poor Ana got gently caress all votes at the end. I would probably have had a breakdown halfway through that game in her shoes.
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Oct 19, 2017 15:11
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The sleep dart quest is the really rough part. It's so important to stack and I never get the delay on that thing right. Then I have to wait a whole 13 seconds until it's up again.
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Oct 19, 2017 15:15
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No Wave posted:Holy crap Ana is difficult to play. I finish darts quest at like level 20. I'm like 1-5 with her in QM. Not being able to macro, at all, is downright unbearable. Supports, never again. See this is why when I go support I stick with Kharazim, the thinking man's support. And by thinking man's I really mean "just punch the other team in their loving mouth"
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banned from Starbucks posted:His sustain is pretty crap since his autoattack range is basically Tychus levels of short
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Orange Crush Rush posted:See this is why when I go support I stick with Kharazim, the thinking man's support. And by thinking man's I really mean "just punch the other team in their loving mouth" And BW's art and voice lines are hilarious (especially when she gets attacked).
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Oct 19, 2017 15:49
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just pick rehgar
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Rehgar's obviously great, I just have found that he doesn't have enough sustain for the low level of play I'm at. If we have Zarya/Tyrande/Tassadar already I definitely consider it.
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Oct 19, 2017 15:52
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how about: Stukov. Homeboy's DPS is frightening, your healing is fantastic (almost mini-ancestral level if you take that quest talent), and you can make some great plays with your hand-anus. also he has the best voiceline in the entire game
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Re: Junkrat damage talk. I think it's going to take some time to get a firm idea of how effective he actually is overall as an assassin. His dps against a single enemy, or even a couple, isn't amazing, but he fills certain niches nobody else does. First off he can wave-clear like crazy from a completely safe distance, he's the one assassin that I would feel totally comfortable with playing while soloing against any spec in the game. Not only can he burst down minions easily, if you arc his grenade right you can also be consistently poking the opposing champion, even while they're hiding behind their wave. And if you're laning against a melee champ they literally can't touch your towers because if they get close you can mine them over the gate and you just got yourself a free pick. When it comes to teamfights he functions more like Nazeebo, doing consistent damage to the enemy team almost imperceptibly, and he can use his mine to displace dangerous targets or throw them back into your team. He's not going to be mvp in teamfights but he is capable of doing some significant damage and overall just being a huge annoyance. He also is really good at hitting fleeing enemies, or hitting low hp enemies trying to hide under their towers since he can just lob grenades over their gate or chase them down with rocket ride (which, holy poo poo, has to be one of the best ults in this entire game). I really like Junkrat, he is a very interesting merge between a specialist and an assassin. Once people have more time with him I think he'll find his spot. PantsBandit fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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I agree that just hitting the heal button on CD is boring, which is why I don't usually play Li Li. Uther, Malfurion, and Reghar on the other hand are all about prioritizing and positioning.
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bio347 posted:Just for the record, Junkrat's autoattack range is the standard ranged assassin range (5.5). Is it really? drat i coulda swore it was shorter.
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Is there a new link for the Battle.net app group? The one from earlier in the thread 'no longer exists' when I try using it. EDIT - Scratch that, apparently they're region locked. 
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banned from Starbucks posted:Is it really? drat i coulda swore it was shorter. It just feels that way because his Q can hit the loving moon, especially with the range talent. Fear no Sgt. Hammer. For those of you who think Hunkrats numbers are low, try out Taste for Explosions + Endless Nades. Also Puckish Scamp is the best most fun talent in the game, nuke backlines erry day. Mr. Bad Guy fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Rhadamanthus posted:also he has the best voiceline in the entire game B E G O N E ! Stukov still the reigning champ of being an actually fun to play support, him and Kharazim for me.
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the talent that let's you shotgun the grenades is so good for team fights
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AlmightyBob posted:the talent that let's you shotgun the grenades is so good for team fights It's fun, yeah, but if you can hit more than one enemy hero with each Q, Endless Nades let's you spam Q's until the fight is over, it's pretty ridiculous.
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AlmightyBob posted:the talent that let's you shotgun the grenades is so good for team fights It's late in the game for it but it also lets you suddenly build a bunch of stacks for his grenade quest in a go, wait for a teamfight, activate it and spam your grenades into the thickest part of the clusterfuck and listen to the dings rack up.
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quote:Greetings, Nice. I remember someone in the thread saying they got them automatically, but I hadn't noticed that mine didn't get put in since I was hoarding boxes before  dropped. Too bad they didn't screw up and give me Hallow's End boxes!
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I prepared this screenshot to complain about QM matchmaking post-Ana patch: But we won...
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No Wave posted:I prepared this screenshot to complain about QM matchmaking post-Ana patch:
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Late game after you get the frag cdr, you can fire 4 grenades at a fleeing enemy, get the speed boost from tricky shuffle, fire 4 more grenades, get the speed boost....That's when he starts to feel like an assassin.
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No Wave posted:The sleep dart quest is the really rough part. It's so important to stack and I never get the delay on that thing right. Then I have to wait a whole 13 seconds until it's up again. Your first mistake is taking the Sleep Dart quest. Sleep is really cool and exceptionally powerful in a 1v1, but you're way better off taking one of the other two quests at 1. The Dose quest is good for general DPS and the burst healing it makes possible is useful, whereas the Grenade quest is good because the Grenade itself is good.
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The sleep dart quest is outrageously good not because of sleep darts but for the increased range and piercing on healing darts.
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Yardbomb posted:B E G O N E ! churlish and insubordinate
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Just tried Garrosh for the first time and he is so loving fun holy poo poo Thank you Blizzard.
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Good lord, I know i'm late to the toad party, but I haven't played nazeebo seriously since beta. I picked him for shits and giggles a few games in a row and I've never seen such brainless damage. In gold/silver you just poo poo out toads and garg in the general direction of the enemy and it's like 2-button mvp every game.
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Gobbeldygook posted:Not surprising. Double support double warrior vs single support auriel without a good battery (Auriel needs someone who can continuously damage, not heroes who blow their load and then stand around useless for 12 seconds) and no warrior. You probably just outlasted them in every team fight. I bet their scrubathur went monstrosity for maximum throw. Or maybe both comps are fine and one team just played better...
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Meow Tse-tung posted:Good lord, I know i'm late to the toad party, but I haven't played nazeebo seriously since beta. I picked him for shits and giggles a few games in a row and I've never seen such brainless damage. In gold/silver you just poo poo out toads and garg in the general direction of the enemy and it's like 2-button mvp every game. I love him.
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Nazeebo owns, both videos relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEf156Aih0Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iHNQzGt0RA though I like the rap more.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJGD7-yeLQ Some are wet noodles, but most got a chuckle out of me fake edit: also topical re: zeebo chat. That move featured at 1:17 is absolutely essential to learn for Nazeebo play.
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