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lilljonas posted:Yeah we played both sides even back in the Napoleonic Wars, so there's that as well. And we ended up with (arguably) Napoleon's Worst Marshall, the often useless Bernadotte who bungled up the invasion of Russia 1812. How did Bernadotte bungle up the invasion of Russia in 1812 when he was serving as Crown Prince of Sweden since 1810?
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Fader Movitz posted:If Fredrik VI hadn't hosed up we could have been Scandinavia the country now Blame Margaretas useless nephew instead.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:How did Bernadotte bungle up the invasion of Russia in 1812 when he was serving as Crown Prince of Sweden since 1810? His departure robbed France of a somewhat competent general, he didn't side with Napoleon and actively participated in the campaign against Napoleon.
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The idea was to get a pro-Napoleon king of Sweden who would retake Finland when Napoleon invaded Russia, tying up Russian troops. Instead, he sided with Russia and the Tsar could divert forces from Finland to meet the threat, afaik. Imagine the borders! But yeah, his big fuckup was Jena.
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So the new(ish) Norwegian government will be holding a hearing on the issue of dual citizenship this autumn. I am a British citizen through my mother, born and raised in Norway (and now saddled with a massive student loan), but always unwilling to give up my original citizenship for a Norwegian one, essentially for employment reasons abroad. I have, however, always felt more Norwegian than any other nationality and I can easily see myself moving back permanently one day, so this is a topic close to my heart. Of course, without missing a beat, Listhaug is in favour of it for all the wrong reasons. https://www.nrk.no/norge/regjeringen-vil-tillate-dobbelt-statsborgerskap-1.13729061 Idiot Queen of Ørskog posted:Det vil gjøre at for eksempel personer som blir tatt og dømt for terrorhandlinger, kan miste sitt norske statsborgerskap. Vi kan ikke gjøre folk statsløse, men vi kan frata dem statsborgerskapet dersom de har et annet, sier Listhaug. sigh Vlex fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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Vlex posted:Of course, without missing a beat, Listhaug is in favour of it for all the wrong reasons. Yeah those poor people that commit terror and get caught. We really need to keep them for the greater good.
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RIP Syndrome posted:How many convicted terrorists are there currently in Norway? 2
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What actually happened is this: The political left is in favor of it essentially because it's humanitarian. Venstre is in favor because it's liberal. For Høyre, it's business-friendly (and rich person friendly). And finally, FrP is in favor because they're the junior partner in Høyre's coalition. Which leaves Listhaug to sell it as some kind of anti-terror legislation to their dotard voters.
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Alhazred posted:If Knut the Mighty hadn't hosed up we could have been Scandinavia the empire now. If Oogar Boogar hadn't hosed up and gone north we'd be in a warm country right now.
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Liberal lead candidate for Copenhagen: "Let public housing firms evict families of gang members, take away their siblings, fire their parents." Literally the most notorious and violent gang leader in Copenhagen: "Hell yeah, I used to be a member of the Liberals." 
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Illustrated: A man who could have won the leadership bid in a heartbeat but that is having way too much fun in life to ever even consider it
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Presented, without comment, from our minister for Justice: https://twitter.com/johanssonmorgan/status/919162210949181441
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMVmLbTW0AALq8h?format=jpg&name=large In case anyone wondered what next years election would be about. Note that it specifically targets foreigners. We will in other words have a race to the bottom where S and M will fight for SDs voters. Which was btw completely obvious that this would happen. 2015 is a long time ago.
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The writing was already on the wall with last years 'temporary' amendments to Utlänningslagen. S have just become a lot more overt about it in the last month. For example, I think we hit peak historical revisionism last week with this statement: https://twitter.com/socialdemokrat/status/918020579717869568
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S is run by dumb and out of touch people, what else is new?
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Muf? Also isn't banning begging just going to increase crime?
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Poil posted:Muf? And yes it likely will. You can't outlaw poverty, poor people still need to eat. It's merely a law to make middle class people feel less guilty because they don't have to see as many poor people.
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Poil posted:Muf? A.k.a. M-jugend. Poil posted:Also isn't banning begging just going to increase crime? Yeah, but do you really think that the bourg care? It's not going to affect them, after all.
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Thanks.Cerebral Bore posted:A.k.a. M-jugend. 
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"NO BEGGING. NO BEING POOR IN PUBLIC!" "So does that mean you're going to fix arbetsfö–" "NO. GO STARVE TO DEATH IN PRIVATE."
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It's not even about begging and poor people, it's about getting rid of the Romanis begging.
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Remember that this is a representative democracy Making the romani go away will get you votes next election
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Cardiac posted:Recent examples this year are Borg and Hanna Wigh, where people were outed without a sentence. Here you are just wrong and grossly misunderstanding how the Swedish press ethics agreement is structured. I mean Aftonbladet and Expressen particularily are not the best about following it (due to being garbage yellow paper publications) but Borg got named for a few reasons and I particularly want you to pay attention the last one: 1. He's a very famous and publicly known person which merits allegations about him as partial public interest 2. He was a former finance minister which doubly merits allegations about him as public interest (if this had happened during his time in office instead of after this point alone would have been enough) 3. He himself brought attention to to the allegations when he pre-emptively posted the apology on Facebook for everyone to see The last one was the tipping point in his case. After that it was happy hunting to use his name and that is no ones fault but his own. You can see a similar pattern with the allegations against Lars Von Trier last week, until he himself confronted the accusations in public most Swedish publications weren't naming him. You can see the same thing but in reverse with Hanna Wigh's accusations. Most swedish publications (including Aftonbladet) are referring to the target of her allegations as 'a SD colleague' or 'SD ledamot'. That's specifically because: 1. The target of the allegations is not publicly known enough to merit it as public interest 2. The target of the allegations does not hold an important enough position to merit it as public interest 3. The target hasn't confronted the allegations This is exactly how it's supposed to work. Similarly, as Virtanen hasn't confronted the accusations publications are avoiding naming him, for now. There is no hypocrisy here, well except for in the news-sources you read. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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MiddleOne posted:Though they do also want to gut the increasingly anemic evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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We don't even pretend it isn't about foreigners, even though the two-week minimum jail sentence for first offenses technically applies to nationals as well. Of course the Social Democrats were also in favour of criminalising being poor in public, as their last stint in office caused an explosion in homelessness.
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SplitSoul posted:We don't even pretend it isn't about foreigners, even though the two-week minimum jail sentence for first offenses technically applies to nationals as well. Of course the Social Democrats were also in favour of criminalising being poor in public, as their last stint in office caused an explosion in homelessness. The sooner the current "left wing" parties dies out the better 
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Lima posted:The sooner the current "left wing" parties dies out the better https://twitter.com/viktorbk/status/921252165615869952
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MiddleOne posted:Here you are just wrong and grossly misunderstanding how the Swedish press ethics agreement is structured. I mean Aftonbladet and Expressen particularily are not the best about following it (due to being garbage yellow paper publications) but Borg got named for a few reasons and I particularly want you to pay attention the last one: A good post.
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Danish National Front is marching in the town of Skive. "We don't want to be seen with people that march with SS-flags and so on. That's not the direction we want to go."  https://www.tvmidtvest.dk/nyheder/20-10-2017/1930/hojre-nationalister-gar-pa-gaden?autoplay=1%3Fv%3D0_0wzl5snn
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SplitSoul posted:Danish National Front is marching in the town of Skive. We don't want to march with SS flags and such, says man with SS tattoo on his neck. Jfc, even the nazis in Denmark are giant hypocrites.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:We don't want to march with SS flags and such, says man with SS tattoo on his neck. Jfc, even the nazis in Denmark are giant hypocrites. I'm sure he just has a tattoo of a robot on his chest and those are the antennas sticking out of its head. Always give Nazis the benefit of the doubt.
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