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Lease the horses out to crew sail pleasure craft you charter for tourists. You can't go wrong.
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Lowness 72 posted:45 THOUSAND DOLLARS? Hoooooooly poo poo. How big is that diamond?? The sad part is that the $45k diamond is probably all of 1 or 2 mm in diameter larger than a $5k diamond.
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Oct 19, 2017 06:25
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therobit posted:These people need divorces from their horses. Divhorses, one might say.
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Oct 19, 2017 06:35
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If you thought horse weddings were BWM, just wait til you see horse divorces.
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Oct 19, 2017 07:31
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I assume everyone saw the Letterman Conan horse thing this last week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxG14lbL2Iw
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Oct 19, 2017 07:54
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i was never a huge fan of the horse meme itt it's mostly funny, but that $45k engagement ring story, for example, is much more my kind of poo poo. too bad it was removed for being too much of a legal question.
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Oct 19, 2017 08:04
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Inescapable Duck posted:If you thought horse weddings were BWM, just wait til you see horse divorces. Go right to the source and divorce the horse. Zo posted:i was never a huge fan of the horse meme itt I know it's a legal question, but I think it's usually pretty open and shut right? An engagement ring is considered a conditional gift, so if the wedding doesn't go through they have to return it. Solice Kirsk fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Oct 19, 2017 09:05
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Solice Kirsk posted:I know it's a legal question, but I think it's usually pretty open and shut right? An engagement ring is considered a conditional gift, so if the wedding doesn't go through they have to return it. I believe I saw a case that had that outcome recently. He might have to take action against her but with precedent I guess he'd get it back.
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Oct 19, 2017 09:35
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like most legal questions in america, it's a state based thing
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I doubt there's a state in the union that would allow someone to be proposed to, take the ring, and not go through with the marriage. "No, I will not marry you. But thanks for the ring, it looks beautiful! 6 months salary, huh? Wow!"
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Oct 19, 2017 12:09
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The really sad thing is that even if he gets it back there is no way he gets 45k for it, so he's hosed on the money anyway.
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Oct 19, 2017 12:26
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Nocheez posted:I doubt there's a state in the union that would allow someone to be proposed to, take the ring, and not go through with the marriage. and making assumptions like that, makes you a dumbass for example: quote:Most western states follow the no-fault, conditional gift approach and award the engagement ring to the giver in a broken engagement. There are still a few states, like Montana, that classify the engagement ring as an unconditional gift and award the ring to the receiver in broken engagements.
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Oct 19, 2017 12:33
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Depends on the circumstances. If it's a mutual decision or if she broke it off I think he gets it back. If she caught him with a stripper named Crystal in the champagne room then it's all her's. Online, a $45k ring is like 4 carats. Which is loving huge.
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Oct 19, 2017 12:34
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Nocheez posted:I doubt there's a state in the union that would allow someone to be proposed to, take the ring, and not go through with the marriage. There's a ton of weird case law surrounding it. In some states if you gave the ring on christmas day, a birthday or valentines day it can be considered a simple gift and you don't get it back. Some states it depends on who broke off the engagement, and in some it's a straight up conditional gift and if you don't get married you give it back.
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Oct 19, 2017 12:38
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Inescapable Duck posted:If you thought horse weddings were BWM, just wait til you see horse divorces.  +  = ?? 
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Oct 19, 2017 12:38
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If you're going to spend $45k for something that statistically has a 55-50% chance of failing, you better be rich enough to wipe you rear end with $100 bills.
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Oct 19, 2017 12:39
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:If you're going to spend $45k for something that statistically has a 55-50% chance of failing, you better be rich enough to wipe you rear end with $100 bills. I don't know horse numbers but I feel like this exact statement is ambiguous between horsechat and ringchat
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Oct 19, 2017 12:44
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Youth Decay posted:
She's not footing the bills for the pony; that's the point of the lease: the owner retains ownership while the person leasing the horse pays for its care in exchange for getting to ride and care for the horse (without committing to permanent ownership) Horse leases (and horses in general) aren't as insane as people in this thread make them out to be.
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Oct 19, 2017 13:28
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So its like all the expensive poo poo of owning a house with none of that pesky "ownership" stuff?
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Oct 19, 2017 14:11
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took out a 2nd mortgage to buy my fiancee a horse-shaped diamond ring and a diamond ring-shaped horse
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Oct 19, 2017 14:23
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CharlestonJew posted:took out a 2nd mortgage to buy my fiancee a horse-shaped diamond ring and a diamond ring-shaped horse And the third mortgage is for bitcoin
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Oct 19, 2017 14:27
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Solice Kirsk posted:So its like all the expensive poo poo of owning a house with none of that pesky "ownership" stuff? I'm assuming you meant 'horse'. And I suspect the main upside to a horse lease is that you can unilaterally end your financial commitment to the horse without needing a large caliber pistol and a backhoe.
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Oct 19, 2017 14:49
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Most $45k ring stores will take the ring back if the girl says neigh. Edit: Burying a horse is BWM, the rendering plant gives you cash for the carcass.
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Oct 19, 2017 14:49
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Lowness 72 posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/77c1ly/i_broke_up_with_my_fianc%C3%A9_i_want_my_45k/ This reminds me: I used to work as an underwriter at an insurance wholesaler. One of our companies was CHUBB personal lines and the target market was accounts with million + $ homes. Anyway, we had an agent send over an endorsement to ad an engagement ring to the jewelry schedule, valued at $80,000. Kinda nuts in and of itself, but ok. Like 2 weeks later the agent comes back and has us remove the $80,000 ring... and replace it with a different ring valued at $120,000. Which to me basically meant the future bride had rejected that piece of poo poo 80k ring and said nah, you're gonna have to pay for this. So, gwm on her part I guess, but... goddamn.
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Oct 19, 2017 14:58
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Elephanthead posted:Most $45k ring stores will take the ring back if the girl says neigh.
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emocrat posted:This reminds me: I used to work as an underwriter at an insurance wholesaler. One of our companies was CHUBB personal lines and the target market was accounts with million + $ homes. Anyway, we had an agent send over an endorsement to ad an engagement ring to the jewelry schedule, valued at $80,000. Kinda nuts in and of itself, but ok. When I bought my engagement stone it was for $4k and came with a certificate saying it was worth $10k for insurance purposes. All that stuff is bullshit.
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Oct 19, 2017 17:49
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For anyone who was interested in helping, the thread for the TGRS project brainstorm session is here
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:When I bought my engagement stone it was for $4k and came with a certificate saying it was worth $10k for insurance purposes. All that stuff is bullshit. Sounds like you got a great deal!
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Oct 19, 2017 18:56
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:When I bought my engagement stone it was for $4k and came with a certificate saying it was worth $10k for insurance purposes. All that stuff is bullshit. Sure would be a shame if it was lost or damaged.
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Oct 19, 2017 19:26
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Enfys posted:She's not footing the bills for the pony; that's the point of the lease: the owner retains ownership while the person leasing the horse pays for its care in exchange for getting to ride and care for the horse (without committing to permanent ownership) I've just seen too many stories of people fighting over who has to pay $huge vet bill and bad contracts written up. And the lessee could get out of the agreement at any time and have her holding the lead rope. In that particular dire situation (jobless for the foreseeable future, on disability, high 5-figure credit card debt, no family assistance) where it sounds like she isn't and physically can't actually ride the pony herself it makes far more sense to sell it. Horses aren't insane (I rode them for several years) but horse people sure are.
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BWM horse story. My SIL got a job taking care of some horses part time. The couple that owns them has 3 horses, and bought a farm so they wouldn't have to board them. One of the horses hates a third one so they have to be in separate paddocks. They are thinking of getting a forth so the hated horse isn't alone. E: the owners both work like 70hr a week at high paying jobs so I guess they can afford it but they aren't really interacting with the horses
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My boss told me about a guy he knows who bought his wife a zebra as a present. She can't ride it and it can't be trained like a normal horse, but she does have to stable it and care for it like a horse. I am sure they can afford it so it isn't exactly bad with money, but I was amazed to hear that there is an even deeper circle of horse-crazy. Also they bought two donkies to be friends with the zebra.
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Deadite posted:My boss told me about a guy he knows who bought his wife a zebra as a present. She can't ride it and it can't be trained like a normal horse, but she does have to stable it and care for it like a horse. So now she is basically obligated to own a wild zoo animal until it dies?
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Oct 19, 2017 21:34
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:So now she is basically obligated to own a wild zoo animal until it dies? I guess so. Really all you can do with it is drive out to the stables and look at it for a while before going home. Maybe you can pet it but I was told that it is a pretty mean zebra.
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Deadite posted:I guess so. Really all you can do with it is drive out to the stables and look at it for a while before going home. Maybe you can pet it but I was told that it is a pretty mean zebra. All zebra are extremely mean and very dangerous, they bite and kick and their kicks are extremely dangerous. Keep in mind that these animals evolved to live on the Serengeti where lions are their most significant natural predator. Horses kick in a very genteel and civilized way with a slightly annoyed sweep of the leg, where zebras kick like an angry bull with both back legs and it is certainly strong enough to kill a human. I mean I guess there are captive born zebras that are fairly tame, relative to their wild counterparts, but keep in mind that all African civilizations as well as European settlers in Africa have long since completely given up on taming zebras despite really compelling reasons to do so. Interesting historical/geographic fact. Bad with money horses basically cannot exist in large swaths of central Africa in an area called the fly belt, due to animal trypanosomiasis, a deadly disease to horses carried by the tsetse fly. So it would've have been of extreme economic value to domesticate zebras, but it was never successfully done due to their temperament. BEHOLD: MY CAPE fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Oct 19, 2017 21:40
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3837987 GROUND FLOOR BABY That is the thread where you offer helpful suggestions. This is the thread where you laugh at how stupid it is.
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Oct 19, 2017 22:00
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Goon project unregulated charity. I can't even.
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Oct 19, 2017 22:09
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potatoducks posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3837987 I'm the guy who thinks they should register as 501(c) to handle $200 worth of donations.
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potatoducks posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3837987 If I say "I need money" will they give me the $200? That's like three and a half months of lights.
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:All zebra are extremely mean and very dangerous, they bite and kick and their kicks are extremely dangerous. Keep in mind that these animals evolved to live on the Serengeti where lions are their most significant natural predator. Horses kick in a very genteel and civilized way with a slightly annoyed sweep of the leg, where zebras kick like an angry bull with both back legs and it is certainly strong enough to kill a human. I mean I guess there are captive born zebras that are fairly tame, relative to their wild counterparts, but keep in mind that all African civilizations as well as European settlers in Africa have long since completely given up on taming zebras despite really compelling reasons to do so. Interesting historical/geographic fact. Bad with money horses basically cannot exist in large swaths of central Africa in an area called the fly belt, due to animal trypanosomiasis, a deadly disease to horses carried by the tsetse fly. So it would've have been of extreme economic value to domesticate zebras, but it was never successfully done due to their temperament. Confirmed, zebras are complete jerks. You can wrangle individuals to pull a cart or something, but you'd probably have to go through a bunch of them finding the handful that are chill enough to accept any training. Plus, zebra are actually kind of small and don't have a natural physiology for riding, so you'd be limited in who could get on it or what it could pull anyway. Basically if you want a smaller, more rugged horse we already have those, they are called donkeys and they are very chill and sweet. So just buy one of those and paint some stripes on it if you need to.
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