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Zoro posted:This reminds me of the time that a super hardcore Christian came to my campus to lecture us on why we were all going to hell. He was booed endlessly and a fat white dude went up in a toga and pretended to be Jesus to debate him. That nutcase did better than Dick Spencer is right now. I mean every university has its collection of wandering street preachers that like to scream at students every so often. And the schools have always found ways to accommodate their freedom of speech without shelling out tons of student money on their behalf. There's a lot of precedent there, and I think it's absurd that some conservative administrators are suddenly deciding that every person that wants to speak should get their own private auditorium at below market rates. These fascists want the pomp and theater of either standing up on a stage with a microphone and sneering at liberals, or developing a talking point about supposed rights infringement. Universities need to wake up and stop playing their game.
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, that Fox affiliate just flat out bailed on him because they were tired of his bullshit, but not before pulling the camera back all the way so you could see that he was addressing a literally empty auditorium with like 20 people in he audience, all protestors. Please tell me there's a picture/gif of this. EDIT: Nevermind, I see that you can just scroll back in the live feed. IUG fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Nucleic Acids posted:So, I assume John Kelly's press conference was just to attack and undermine what the widow of La David Johnson herself has said Trump told her. So, how's it going to play out? Search your feelings
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Oct 19, 2017 21:07
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Josh Lyman posted:This Middle Eastern guy, son of 2 immigrants, is saying the protestors are rude. He didn't know what Richard Spencer was about, didn't believe the media and came in with an open mind. Important part of this mystery: he doesn't know what Richard Spencer is about. I figure that if he knew that Spencer hated him and wanted to deport him back to his parents' home country, he'd probably not be so keen on him.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:07
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Koalas March posted:I want someone to go loving punch him again. Maybe if he has enough concussions he'll stop being a little racist shithead. It really was some serious weak tea though.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:07
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“THE WORLD is watching this, I’m VERY IMPORTANT!!!” - Small blurry man on stage in the middle of an empty auditorium, wide shot
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Oct 19, 2017 21:08
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Krispy Wafer posted:Yeah, that actually sounds even more shady now than it did when it was just some uranium in a briefcase.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:08
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SpaceCadetBob posted:I mean maybe, it's a big world out there full of lots of odd people, but the interaction just felt like a plant to me. I could be way wrong though, just half listening since direct attention to the stream is making me ill. BarbarianElephant posted:Important part of this mystery: he doesn't know what Richard Spencer is about. I figure that if he knew that Spencer hated him and wanted to deport him back to his parents' home country, he'd probably not be so keen on him. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Oct 19, 2017 21:09
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boner confessor posted:the thing that bugs me is who cares if russia mines more uranium. this isn't the early 1950's, uranium is plentiful and there's already enough nuclear weapons to destroy humanity twice over. so loving what if american uranium reserves were sold to russia? am i supposed to have a panic attack because we put the words RUSSIA and URANIUM in the same sentence? Also that neither we nor Russia use Uranium for weapons. And since NK has Hydrogen bomb now they don't either so no one uses Uranium to make warheads right now.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:09
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Nucleic Acids posted:So, I assume John Kelly's press conference was just to attack and undermine what the widow of La David Johnson herself has said Trump told her. So, how's it going to play out? Kelly and the White House are basically saying "Yes, Trump said what you think he said but it didn't mean what you think it meant" and they're using Kelly as the authority on what is the right and wrong thing to say because he has a dead son. That ghoulish as gently caress but unless the family chooses to get into a public fight about how Kelly doesn't get to tell them how they should feel about what the President said I think everyone just feels uncomfortable about it and backs away. Because MOST of us have human empathy. The CNN stuff I saw after it was a mix of shifting to wondering what the gently caress happened in Niger and saying this is all because the Administration is being secretive about it and pointing out that when Kelly says Gold Star families are no longer sacred and this whole process should be sacred its really Trump's fault for attacking the Khans, calling Johnson's family liars, and using the whole thing as a way to say he's better than Obama.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:10
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Xae posted:Also that neither we nor Russia use Uranium for weapons. Huh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W88
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Oct 19, 2017 21:11
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BarbarianElephant posted:Ugh, historical inaccuracy, togas were a Roman thing. And Jesus was a loyal Roman subject only convicted to satisfy a bunch of obnoxious provincial twats. 
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Oct 19, 2017 21:12
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KickerOfMice posted:It really was some serious weak tea though. Selfquotin but... Not that this is an excuse for ignoring this shitball. I can only imagine what it was like to be a Jewish person watching that.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:12
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Did FoxNews really carry Spencer's speech? It looks like just a Fox Affiliate's web feed. In Phoenix, so its still weird as gently caress and highly questionable. But not Shep Smith kicking to the Nazi rally.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:14
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Did FoxNews really carry Spencer's speech? No. Two local Fox affiliates covered it and streamed it online with the lower third reading “WHITE NATIONALIST SPEAKS AT UF” so at least they didn’t dress it up like  proper would.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:14
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My public university banned the LaRouchePAC and anti-abortion activists who waved dead fetus photos in your face from coming to campus on the guise that they were a threat to students. I'm surprised more schools don't do that.
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Oct 19, 2017 21:15
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seiferguy posted:My public university banned the LaRouchePAC and anti-abortion activists who waved dead fetus photos in your face from coming to campus on the guise that they were a threat to students. I'm surprised more schools don't do that. People who never actually read 1984 are too quick to scream about thoughtcrime and wrongthink whenever someone posits "perhaps we should ban Nazis from being allowed to spread their 100% hateful and useless ideology", and that reflects badly on the public image of a university somehow (seriously I would've thought up until this year that going "No we're not going to let your Nazi pals do Nazi things here" would actually be a good thing, but reality has utterly broken in half at this point so...)
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seiferguy posted:My public university banned the LaRouchePAC and anti-abortion activists who waved dead fetus photos in your face from coming to campus on the guise that they were a threat to students. I'm surprised more schools don't do that. My university canceled a 9/11 Spencer et. al event immediately after Charlottesville because their announcement explicitly mentioned Charlottesville and therefore was considered a threat of violence. Perhaps the only good thing my university has done in a while, tbh
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https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/921104412222902275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw That is the stuff
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seiferguy posted:My public university banned the LaRouchePAC and anti-abortion activists who waved dead fetus photos in your face from coming to campus on the guise that they were a threat to students. I'm surprised more schools don't do that. i saw one of those grisly anti-abortion demonstrations and next to them i saw the campus police talking to a guy who was handing out wire coathangers lol
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STAC Goat posted:Kelly and the White House are basically saying "Yes, Trump said what you think he said but it didn't mean what you think it meant" and they're using Kelly as the authority on what is the right and wrong thing to say because he has a dead son. That ghoulish as gently caress but unless the family chooses to get into a public fight about how Kelly doesn't get to tell them how they should feel about what the President said I think everyone just feels uncomfortable about it and backs away. Because MOST of us have human empathy. gently caress kelly but i feel like he is hosed no matter what, so he basicaly bent over backwards defending master. then again a decent amount of his attacks could be said about trump. so who the gently caress knows. the whole niger mission sounds like a set up. the dudes went to see a bunch of leaders or some poo poo (as advisors in civlian gear in a unarmed truck) so after the meeting they got attacked by a ton(probaly fewer) ISIS type militants in a roadside ambush. most or all died soon after. my guess is they were sold out by some fuckstain leader in Niger or they were really bad at covering there tracks.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/921104412222902275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Adam sessler became a nazi and grew hair. Spaced God posted:My university canceled a 9/11 Spencer et. al event immediately after Charlottesville because their announcement explicitly mentioned Charlottesville and therefore was considered a threat of violence. my universty just doesnt allow nazis/hate groups period. worst we have is liberterians and the occasional bible thumper but even they are usually nice for bible thumpers.
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"If you'd all just peacefully line up here while we peacefully shoot you and peacefully dump you into this peaceful mass grave you'll see how peaceful this all is" Bonus Joke at 12:21: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NOita-7C4k&t=742s
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Oct 19, 2017 21:22
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Kaal posted:I understand that is the university administration's argument, but it's patently untrue. Spencer is welcome to stand in the middle of the quad and yell things at passersby like most of the nutcases. If he doesn't want to do that, then he can pay for the privilege unless he gets the voluntary support of either the university or the student union. If they offer space for rent to outside groups they have to allow Spencer to rent that space.
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Josh Lyman posted:It would be impossible for any UF student not know Richard Spencer was coming to campus today. And if you didn't know who he was, a 30 second Google would tell you he's a Nazi. To draw any other conclusion requires unbelievable stupidity. A lot of conservatives are unbelievably stupid, they just assume that left-wingers call everyone to the right of Bernie "a Nazi."
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SulphagneSocialist posted:Kelly went to the press and used his son's death to defend the President being a piece of poo poo to the families of dead soldiers. You are correct. Kelly is a jackbooted thug.
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Koalas March posted:
Airing Nazi speeches live nationally is a totally normal Thursday now. The Governor of FL gets most of the blame for this one though. If he hadn't declared a state of emergency for this bullshit it wouldn't have gotten anywhere near this much attention.
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Honest to God, how does someone even get to the point psychologically where their brain accepts "peaceful ethnic cleansing" as not only logical, but a totally viable process? Like, what kind of disassociation has to take place that leads to an inability to not only not understand the interconnections of humans, but also personal boundaries and the basic instinct to fight to survive?
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loving Mike Enoch. I grew up with him, he came from a very normal, educated, and liberal family - all of whom have completely disowned him. I was friends with his sister, my brother was actually friends with him...I cannot wrap my head around someone like that turning into THAT. I cannot stress enough how nice, normal, and unassuming he was when we were in high school.
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Hastings posted:Honest to God, how does someone even get to the point psychologically where their brain accepts "peaceful ethnic cleansing" as not only logical, but a totally viable process? Like, what kind of disassociation has to take place that leads to an inability to not only not understand the interconnections of humans, but also personal boundaries and the basic instinct to fight to survive? Because the US Government is literally doing this as we speak?
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BarbarianElephant posted:A lot of conservatives are unbelievably stupid, they just assume that left-wingers call everyone to the right of Bernie "a Nazi." I mean, there is a constituency for that opinion. Unfortunately for conservatives, a large portion of the people to the right of Bernie Sanders are Nazis, at this point. I don't think that liberals and conservatives are exactly the same but at this point the Republican Party actually just is a white nationalist front organization and they don't want to own that reality.
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Hastings posted:Honest to God, how does someone even get to the point psychologically where their brain accepts "peaceful ethnic cleansing" as not only logical, but a totally viable process? Like, what kind of disassociation has to take place that leads to an inability to not only not understand the interconnections of humans, but also personal boundaries and the basic instinct to fight to survive? The stated goal is a white ethnostate, it's coded language. The 'peaceful' was tacked on to better fit the 'more socially acceptable neo-nazi.'
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mcmagic posted:Because the US Government is literally doing this as we speak? where exactly is the US Government conducting a peaceful and viable ethnic cleansing?
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STAC Goat posted:Kelly and the White House are basically saying "Yes, Trump said what you think he said but it didn't mean what you think it meant" and they're using Kelly as the authority on what is the right and wrong thing to say because he has a dead son. That ghoulish as gently caress but unless the family chooses to get into a public fight about how Kelly doesn't get to tell them how they should feel about what the President said I think everyone just feels uncomfortable about it and backs away. Because MOST of us have human empathy. Well he also said how lovely it was for that Congresswoman to be listening in on the call that he also was listening in on.
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Hastings posted:Honest to God, how does someone even get to the point psychologically where their brain accepts "peaceful ethnic cleansing" as not only logical, but a totally viable process? Like, what kind of disassociation has to take place that leads to an inability to not only not understand the interconnections of humans, but also personal boundaries and the basic instinct to fight to survive? he doesn't actually think it's possible, he's just saying that to maintain kayfabe as well as provoke a reaction out of the people he dislikes Kelly posted:loving Mike Enoch. I grew up with him, he came from a very normal, educated, and liberal family - all of whom have completely disowned him. I was friends with his sister, my brother was actually friends with him...I cannot wrap my head around someone like that turning into THAT. I cannot stress enough how nice, normal, and unassuming he was when we were in high school. personality disorders. his behavior is compulsive to the point that he's destroyed his marriage and his relationships with his family, the nazi frog cult is all he has left
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