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Action George
Apr 13, 2013

Ulio posted:

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0712711935354738376-4

G2 got declined for NA.

Good NA can stay a poo poo region like this. EU gonna outperform them at MSI/Worlds as usual next year.

Yeah, G2 sure would have really elevated NA internationally with their track record of success in international play.

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RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
I'm still trying to figure out what Flyquest offered that Dignitas or NV or Immortals didn't :riot:

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Why are the top flight EU teams trying to apply for the last NA LCS spot? What is at stake there? Aren’t the changes happening in NA also happening in EU? Are there huge profit differences in the regions? If so, why?

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FlyQuest is basically just Cloud 9 B isn’t it? Don’t they have a lot of the same infrastructure and support as Cloud 9? That might have something to do with it. gently caress if I know for sure though.

Sexpansion
Mar 22, 2003

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Libertine posted:

Why are the top flight EU teams trying to apply for the last NA LCS spot? What is at stake there? Aren’t the changes happening in NA also happening in EU? Are there huge profit differences in the regions? If so, why?

——

FlyQuest is basically just Cloud 9 B isn’t it? Don’t they have a lot of the same infrastructure and support as Cloud 9? That might have something to do with it. gently caress if I know for sure though.

EU is not franchising, at least not yet.

Frustrated
Jun 12, 2003

Vermain posted:

Hey, who knows? Maybe Golden State/Cavaliers/Optic will inject a fresh perspective into the NA LCS and propel it forwards, or maybe they'll sandbag for franchising dollars.

Too bad you can't tank for draft picks in the LCS or convince players to take contracts way below market value...

AttackBacon
Nov 19, 2010
DEEP FRIED DIARRHEA

Libertine posted:

Why are the top flight EU teams trying to apply for the last NA LCS spot? What is at stake there? Aren’t the changes happening in NA also happening in EU? Are there huge profit differences in the regions? If so, why?

EU has had an extremely hard time getting teams profitable (even remotely so). It's bad enough that a trio of orgs (Fnatic, G2, and Misfits iirc) all applied for NA LCS spots, although Fnatic's application was probably an attention stunt. H2k in particular has been extremely vocal about the lack of profitability (or even sustainability) for teams in EU. The NA LCS is a lot more appealing for team ownership not only due to the incoming franchising system (which is NA only, although China is implementing a similar franchised system as well) but also because sponsorships are much more attainable and viewership is better and more valuable.

Travis had a good video explaining more details on the sponsor/viewership side a few months ago. Basically, sponsors only care about eyeballs on their products (obviously) and NA LCS has much more valuable eyeballs than EU LCS does. This is for a variety of reasons. First off, through some kind of advertising metric, a single NA viewer is worth more than an EU viewer to an advertiser (it's some kind calculation of spending power). Secondly, those NA viewers are concentrated in a single country with a unified market, whereas in EU while the currency and overall market is unified, you are dealing with a lot more barriers and differences within the region. There's a wide variance in who would want to advertise to say, a Polish viewer, versus a French viewer. Not to mention countries outside of the EU. This all makes it a lot easier for NA teams to acquire good sponsorships, and even then it's difficult (see: IMT being denied a franchise likely due to lack of sustainable sponsorship income).

Finally, Riot HQ has been hugely focused this year on getting franchising implemented in NA and seems to have hoped that EU could just trundle along until next year when they can focus on it more. That (along with a miserable showing at Rift Rivals) was causing a lot of angst to come across the pond and as a result they've been more actively throwing ideas out there, although there's nothing really concrete yet.

AttackBacon fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Oct 19, 2017

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
I’m imagining Hai sneaking into Riot HQ like his 0/7/0 Zed going bush to bush from that worlds game years ago

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Get hyped for MSF vs. SKT! I know MSF probably can't hack it against SKT, but damnit I want to see Maxlore and the boys pull through. I legitimately think they have a shot if they play to their strengths and remember their win conditions, because SKT has looked miserable early and MSF has been one of the teams that's properly executed early game aggression and converted it into wins. If there's any year for an upset, I think this is it.

In other news, it looks like the final NA LCS spot goes to.... the Houston Rockets?????

Vermain fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Oct 20, 2017

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


lmao if you think Jack didn't strongly influence riot to keep Flyquest in

also good job SSG on fixing that Ambition randomly being bad early problem and scouting the LZIM drafts well and boo on LZIM not being able to beat a bot lane that was struggling in 2v2s versus essentially every team in their group and also not playing around top side

gowb
Apr 14, 2005

Is america still in the worlds championchips

What are the good games if I haven't seen any and need to catch up?

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

gowb posted:

Is america still in the worlds championchips

What are the good games if I haven't seen any and need to catch up?
Cloud9 made it out and that's all. Watch most of Gigabyte Marine's games in group stages because they cheesed it up

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
Houston Rockets bought the 10th NALCS slot. That makes 6 returning teams with DIG, NV, IMT and P1 out

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


If Misfits can take game 1 against SKT I'd start believing they can actually win the match. Tilting Huni early is going to be key and I trust in Maxlore to be able to do that, especially if there are more nuggets on the line.

henkman
Oct 8, 2008
Misfits will beat SKT

If they get smashed then obviously I was joking

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


henkman posted:

Misfits will beat SKT

If they get smashed then obviously I was joking

if Misfits was an NA team would you post this

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
Nobody expects an NA team to beat anyone

gowb
Apr 14, 2005

RealFoxy posted:

Cloud9 made it out and that's all. Watch most of Gigabyte Marine's games in group stages because they cheesed it up

THANKs just watched them crush fanatic and it delivered on your hype my friend. It seems like 10 bans is encouraging more diversity in picks, do y'all think this is true?? He says after watching a single match

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

gowb posted:

THANKs just watched them crush fanatic and it delivered on your hype my friend. It seems like 10 bans is encouraging more diversity in picks, do y'all think this is true?? He says after watching a single match
That's a Gigabyte Marine anomaly, every other match except one or two have revolved around Ardent Censor supports like Janna or Rakkan

henkman
Oct 8, 2008

rabidsquid posted:

if Misfits was an NA team would you post this

yes, I always hope SKT loses

Max Coveri
Dec 23, 2015

by Athanatos

henkman posted:

yes, I always hope SKT loses

:agreed:

Only the cool kids root against SKT. Or any Korean team.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Max Coveri posted:

:agreed:

Only the cool kids root against SKT. Or any Korean team.

The majority of people root against SKT from what I can see, they are tired of fekar dominance.

gowb
Apr 14, 2005

RealFoxy posted:

That's a Gigabyte Marine anomaly, every other match except one or two have revolved around Ardent Censor supports like Janna or Rakkan

Yeah on game 4, these guys are bad, which makes me sad bc they have cool strategies.

Action George
Apr 13, 2013

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

The majority of people root against SKT from what I can see, they are tired of fekar dominance.

I think part of it is that a lot of times it doesn't look particularly dominant. If SKT was winning because Faker was constantly pulling off awesome Zed versus Zed plays instead of just SKT having the best macro play and I don't think people would root against SKT so much.

zelgadis
Sep 5, 2004

Doesn't that just beat all
skt is almost an underdog this worlds, particularly after their groups. plus they lost both their series against samsung in the summer split. samsung even kept nearly the same roster so they know what well they're up against. skin diversity aside, i kinda want them to win

of course i want RNG to win more - they proved they can beat samsung, so their match is anyone's game. but I'm pretty sure SKT can beat RNG if the turret blitz meta doesn't pick up. I know that was a thing for a bit there at the end of groups, but I watched LZ/Samsung by highlights so I'm not sure

your friend a dog
Nov 2, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
i root for skt because they are the best, and hell, i dont believe in encouraging losers

henkman
Oct 8, 2008
Hell, me neither. Which is why I must insist you return to gbs

your friend a dog
Nov 2, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
dont you have any eu games you can watch so you can get back to watering your rutabagas with your tears

Monathin
Sep 1, 2011

?????????
?

I believe in Misfits because I want that one guy with still correct pick'ems to actually win

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.
Hmmmmm the Twitch stream says that the match will start one hour later than originally scheduled.

Edit: Nvm they changed it to 55 minutes. I guess that was just a mistake

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?

Firebert posted:

I will be surprised if LZ doesn't 3-0 SSG

I love posts that age well

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

henkman posted:

yes, I always hope SKT loses

my man ✌🏻

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

RealFoxy posted:

This is either going to be finals worthy, or a total shut out. Leggo
I guess to be fair I never said which team would be shut out :v:

Bright Future
Oct 9, 2007

[let's] fuck that crazy-ass robot
I use a fire stick to watch this in my living room, is there a way to install an ad blocker so I don't get ads popping up during teamfights?

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

sucks to your rear end-mar posted:

I use a fire stick to watch this in my living room, is there a way to install an ad blocker so I don't get ads popping up during teamfights?

if you whisper 'ads off please' to your fire stick when there's an ad it will turn it off

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


curiousCat posted:

I love posts that age well

there were a lot of reasons to believe that SSG would get blasted. as i mentioned Ambition played like poo poo in the early game during the last round and Crown has required a camp, and the SSG bot lane was struggling in 2v2s versus much worse bot lanes.

well Ambition stopped playing like poo poo early and he was able to get Crown rolling or at least stop him from feeding. it feels simplistic to say that poor drafting and other losing lanes caused the bottom lane to not be a 2v2 but even so it was a bit of a surprise that SSG did that well down there. they had a really good read on LZIM and LZIM seemed to have failed in prep in some form or another. also its super weird to me that they didn't try to get Khan ahead at all.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


sucks to your rear end-mar posted:

I use a fire stick to watch this in my living room, is there a way to install an ad blocker so I don't get ads popping up during teamfights?

twitch prime gets rid of ads

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

sucks to your rear end-mar posted:

I use a fire stick to watch this in my living room, is there a way to install an ad blocker so I don't get ads popping up during teamfights?

What app and channel are you using to watch it? I was getting ads on a youtube app before I realized I was watching some pirate stream and not lolesports

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


well folks it's time for me to get ready to root for a team i've been a fan of for my entire life, Anyone Who Is Playing Against SKT

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
I wish KaKao were still a sub on Misfits so he could just be in the background cackling when they play SKT

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Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

rabidsquid posted:

well folks it's time for me to get ready to root for a team i've been a fan of for my entire life, Anyone Who Is Playing Against SKT

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