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breathe more oxygen Ippo
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The author had some health problems recently, right? That's the only reason I think this might possibly be legit. If he was dangling Ippo's brain damage as an emergency out in case he needed to end the manga early, that'd really be 
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Oct 19, 2017 22:04
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The famous Kamogawa boxing technique: Stop punches with your face Yes I know the watermarks are disgusting.
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Oct 19, 2017 23:11
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Never stop headbutting punches Ippo, that's the way of the Samurai. Good thing Kumi is a nurse.
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Oct 19, 2017 23:13
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Fabricated posted:The famous Kamogawa boxing technique: Stop punches with your face It's like he tried to adapt Date's neck twisting technique and completely hosed it up. and also forgot that neck twisting became useless when Date went up against a better boxer.
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Oct 19, 2017 23:19
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Quality coaching
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Oct 19, 2017 23:24
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"Sometimes, no matter what kind of effort you put in, it just doesn't really pay off." -Coach Kamogawa
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Oct 19, 2017 23:29
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Bisse posted:And there it is, Ippo is punch drunk and broken. It makes sense and it is effectively communicating what it wants to, the problem is it fits poorly with the dramatic tone of the series. This isn't, or hasn't been, a story about tragedy, dissatisfaction and failure. Hence the speculation that something has changed the author's outlook. If not and he's going to pull through again, then it's rehashing a plot already dealt with effectively and with appropriate gravity, and undermining that gravity. But that was always one of the problems with HnI, that it would go through a solid dramatic construction for a fight and then slather on another thick layer of guts at the end of the fight that ends up obscuring the real value.
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Oct 20, 2017 11:48
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I feel kind of sad about how things have turned out. And by things I mean the quality of this manga
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Oct 20, 2017 12:15
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Turns out the New Dempsey requires you to be brain damaged before you can use it
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Oct 20, 2017 12:52
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Was the new Dempsey even real or just a dying dream
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Oct 20, 2017 12:56
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Peel posted:It makes sense and it is effectively communicating what it wants to, the problem is it fits poorly with the dramatic tone of the series. This isn't, or hasn't been, a story about tragedy, dissatisfaction and failure. Hence the speculation that something has changed the author's outlook. What i'm saying is maybe this is not a change in the author's plans, but in fact where the series has been going since the start. EDIT: Also tbh this is a more interesting story than ippo taking the world title without any bumps on the way. Bisse fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 20, 2017 14:43
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ippo: time to unleash, my secret new dempsey roll!!!!!!!!!! *cuts to ippo leaning up in a hospital bed with a thousand yard stare, swaying back and forth slightly and drooling*
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Oct 20, 2017 14:57
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There's a scene in El Chavo del Ocho, this Mexican live action comedy about some kids, and one of these little jerk kids gets beaten up by the Chavo. A little girl comes up to the dude who's all hosed up and says, "You got beaten up by El Chavo, huh?" He says, "No, I was giving him narizasos en las manos!" Which is roughly "Nose jabs on his fists!" That's Coach's good-rear end strategy, right there
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Oct 20, 2017 15:19
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Good soup! posted:ippo: time to unleash, my secret new dempsey roll!!!!!!!!!! 
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Oct 20, 2017 15:20
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Can we get a thread change to "Ippo's weakness: Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy"?
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Oct 20, 2017 22:06
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Don't worry he just needs more oxygen in his muscles more yamato damashii
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Oct 22, 2017 18:08
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i think he's going to be fine lol
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Oct 23, 2017 07:20
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I think I'm going to dempsey roll you.
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Oct 23, 2017 08:02
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now that his brain doesn't need oxygen anymore he'll have more oxygen for his muscles
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Oct 23, 2017 13:20
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come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn GEOOOOOOOORGE
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Oct 24, 2017 20:18
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which would be a better protagonist for a follow-up manga, Sendou (competent ippo) or Takamura (is takamura)
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Centzon Totochtin posted:which would be a better protagonist for a follow-up manga, Sendou (competent ippo) or Takamura (is takamura) 10000000% Sendo.
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Oct 24, 2017 21:35
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Ippo's gonna fuckin lose
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Oct 24, 2017 22:20
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He's fine lol
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Oct 24, 2017 22:30
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cmon author don't pussy out now
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Oct 24, 2017 22:34
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Jose posted:He's fine lol  It's all a big fakeout, in chapter 2000 he'll probably use the New Dempsey and get an instant KO.
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Oct 24, 2017 22:38
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i'm so mad he's gonna be fine because of background npc #32 miyata's rival heart energy
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Oct 24, 2017 23:34
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After the whole 'if I lose again I'll quit' thing I can't see him actually losing here unless we're going in a weird direction, but it's awkward to watch.
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Oct 25, 2017 03:26
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Another new chapter. Nothing happens!
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Oct 25, 2017 08:25
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If he animes his way out of this, just drop the manga. Because clearly the author doesn't care and neither should anyone else if he doesn't follow through.
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Oct 25, 2017 11:45
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He doesn't need to "anime his way out of this", his opponent is literally on his last breath and unable to move his legs. He can win this easily just by not trying to dempsey, and that is likely what will happen. Either way it will be a massive loss for him because instead of a triumphant return this match is an embarrassment and a failure for him.
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Oct 25, 2017 12:27
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people are too loving negative tho having some drama is probably good, shows that ippo and coach get soem consequences for being flaming retards when it comes to fighting
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Bisse posted:He doesn't need to "anime his way out of this", his opponent is literally on his last breath and unable to move his legs. He can win this easily just by not trying to dempsey, and that is likely what will happen. Either way it will be a massive loss for him because instead of a triumphant return this match is an embarrassment and a failure for him. Yeah, but even if Ippo wins because Guevara falls down from pure exhaustion/damage, how the gently caress would George write away Ippo clearly being punch drunk? There's no way he's gonna be able to write it off as "well Ippo is completely fine and all those blatant symptoms he's been showing are just poorly timed coincidences."
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The manga can proceed even if Ippo is punch drunk. He'll then have the choice of giving up boxing, or taking a big risk and going for the belt in the least number of matches possible. Unlike his opponents Ippo has never had anything on the line in his matches other than wanting to win, now he would actually be fighting with real consequences. It would also make him much more unlikely to win. It seems the manga is building towards because it's also had Ippo declare he'll give up if he takes one more loss. So whatever comes next is likely a match with high stakes that he's extremely unlikely to lose, and then it could go the Ashita No Joe way or he could still win, who knows. Remember this is still the 80's where punchdrunk boxers continuing to box was still a thing. They also could still win matches. But just to make it clear, I agree that if what happens is that Ippo beats brain dramage with yamato damashi, then this manga can gently caress off. Bisse fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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If they do take that route I can't possibly see how Ippo can take the belt with brain damage. They've established Ricardo Martinez as a god walking among mortal men and I just can't see a brain damaged Ippo beating him without some serious bullshit.
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CharlestonJew posted:If they do take that route I can't possibly see how Ippo can take the belt with brain damage. They've established Ricardo Martinez as a god walking among mortal men and I just can't see a brain damaged Ippo beating him without some serious bullshit. Like, in theory, he could win by just Not Getting Hit. He could also win by using his fist to punch Ricardo hard in the head. Volg won his title match with one single well planned punch, but then a cheating referee happened. Bisse fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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Oct 25, 2017 15:38
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Wild Horses posted:people are too loving negative tho except we had that drama for like a year or something, i can't even think of the timeframe anymore, this has tilted to the point where it's either 'excessive' or 'all turns out ok because of an asspull'
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The mangas not in the 80s anymore iirc and the coach would turn from "bad old fashioned boxing coach" to "legitimately heinous criminal" if he allows ippo to keep boxing Ashita no Joe did this MUCH better where Joe managed to hide his symptoms and his coach was an insane drunk anyway and also it was more thematically fitting cuz Joe was suicidally depressed
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Bisse posted:Like, in theory, he could win by just Not Getting Hit. He could also win by using his fist to punch Ricardo hard in the head. smart ippo inc bet your house on ippo
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