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Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
He also told me that Matey should be free.

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really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Finicums Wake posted:

they can't even spell winning

omg they really didn’t spell it right lmao

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Concerned Citizen/zegermans 2020

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

gradenko_2000 posted:

Concerned Citizen/zegermans 2020

I'm not going to at the white house. There's no place for me there... any more than there is for you. Suckzone... I'm a monster. What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/921373588728492032

#TheResistance grows!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


:ok:

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
when was the last time the Dems had a coherent foreign policy vision that wasn't just "whatever the Republicans want, but slightly more polite"?

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Main Paineframe posted:

when was the last time the Dems had a coherent foreign policy vision that wasn't just "whatever the Republicans want, but slightly more polite"?

Fdr

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2YuE2lhguc

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


Eric Holders efforts might get partisan gerrymandering declared unconstitutional, and while he was a bankster sellout, he was one of the few AGs that didn't completely bend over to the police

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


gradenko_2000 posted:

You're not wrong, but what Perez did lately and what we've seen of the Dems in the special elections is a little disheartening.

Yea theres no guarantee anything works out in the end its just the only remotely plausible way it can be done.

On the plus side when was the last time an actual democratic socialist was moving and shaking things at all in the US and had even a snowballs chance in hell at the presidency? Has it ever happened before?

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Eric Holder has joined the resistance!

*Eric Holder accidentally arms hundreds of right-wing militias*

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Frijolero posted:

Eric Holder has joined the resistance!

*Eric Holder accidentally arms hundreds of right-wing militias*

All Fast and Furious did was prove that Mexico's cartels are armed by our lax assault rifle enthusiast sporting rifle that is totes not an assault rifle due to lack of selective fire mechanisms control laws. They were before and still are.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Concerned Citizen posted:

The DNC doesn't set policy or do coordination, though. They don't control donations for anyone but themselves. Like A Better Deal came from the Senate Democrats.
lol the DNC acted as a money funneling conduit for millions of dollars to the hillary organizations via rescinding the obama era prohibition on lobbyist et al donations to the dnc and in doing so violated the spirit of individual campaign contribution limits so that single un-married individuals could donate over $300,000 instead of being limited to $2,700

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

comedyblissoption posted:

lol the DNC acted as a money funneling conduit for millions of dollars to the hillary organizations via rescinding the obama era prohibition on lobbyist et al donations to the dnc and in doing so violated the spirit of individual campaign contribution limits so that single un-married individuals could donate over $300,000 instead of being limited to $2,700

lobbyists could already donate to the hillary campaign, that has nothing to do wth what you're talking about re: caps. they did it with the joint victory fund to get larger checks from big donors. the joint victory fund thing wasn't new (obama did the same thing in 2012 with fewer states) but it was just much larger scale since scotus killed the federal campaign donation cap.

but anyway getting around campaign contribution limits has been the dnc's function since the dawn of contribution caps. you can max out at $2700 to the presidential campaign, but then you can also donate $33,400 to national parties. in presidential election years, virtually all of that money will go to help the dem nominee win

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahjahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


AHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

LOL

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

All Fast and Furious did was prove that Mexico's cartels are armed by our lax assault rifle enthusiast sporting rifle that is totes not an assault rifle due to lack of selective fire mechanisms control laws. They were before and still are.

shut up cc

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Frijolero posted:

Eric Holder has joined the resistance!

*Eric Holder accidentally arms hundreds of right-wing militias*

covington & burlinng, welcome to the resistance

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Concerned Citizen posted:

lobbyists could already donate to the hillary campaign, that has nothing to do wth what you're talking about re: caps. they did it with the joint victory fund to get larger checks from big donors. the joint victory fund thing wasn't new (obama did the same thing in 2012 with fewer states) but it was just much larger scale since scotus killed the federal campaign donation cap.

but anyway getting around campaign contribution limits has been the dnc's function since the dawn of contribution caps. you can max out at $2700 to the presidential campaign, but then you can also donate $33,400 to national parties. in presidential election years, virtually all of that money will go to help the dem nominee win
so the dnc doesn't control donations but they also control donations. gotcha

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
For real though, you just "well actually'd" the US government literally handing weapons to murderous drug cartels.

It was a huge failure by the DEA, Arizona, Holder and Obama, and the appropriate people should've been canned or arrested, yet nothing happened cuz Obama was a worthless gently caress

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

comedyblissoption posted:

so the dnc doesn't control donations but they also control donations. gotcha

i mean those are donations to the dnc, so what i said was correct. they don't go around telling other people who can and can't donate to them

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/921387599284989953

:whitewater:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
technically, making bernie become a Democrat is in line with their goal of having Democrats win more elections in 2018

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Frijolero posted:

For real though, you just "well actually'd" the US government literally handing weapons to murderous drug cartels.

It was a huge failure by the DEA, Arizona, Holder and Obama, and the appropriate people should've been canned or arrested, yet nothing happened cuz Obama was a worthless gently caress

The Arizona DA resigned. The head of the ATF was fired. And it's hardly arming if those guns would have gone to mexico anyway because, guess what, there's nothing illegal about buying a paramilitary's worth of assault rifles.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


lmao

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Concerned Citizen posted:

lobbyists could already donate to the hillary campaign, that has nothing to do wth what you're talking about re: caps.
AFAIK caps are different between the hillary campaign and the DNC. if the DNC funnels money to the HVF who advertises in ways that act effectively as an arm of the clinton campaign, this means more corporate cash from federal lobbyists and PACs can be funneled to hillary organizations

quote:

i mean those are donations to the dnc, so what i said was correct. they don't go around telling other people who can and can't donate to them
lmao THE DNC LITERALLY DID THIS. what do you think the obama era prohibition on donations from lobbyists and PACs was if not telling other people who can and can't donate to them? the DNC literally controls the logistics of money that flows to campaigns and can even prohibit donations.

the dnc can't prohibit who donates to the hillary campaign directly, but if the hillary campaign can effectively raise more money by using the DNC as a conduit to poo poo like the HVF, then they are effectively controlling donations to hillary affiliated organizations

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

also im a layman so when i say campaign i often mean 'all organizations and PACs that are pro-hillary and effectively arms of hillary'. i don't mean just the technical term for the legal organization directly representing the candidate

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

The Arizona DA resigned. The head of the ATF was fired. And it's hardly arming if those guns would have gone to mexico anyway because, guess what, there's nothing illegal about buying a paramilitary's worth of assault rifles.

The ATF guy was a nobody, who resigned, wasn't fired.

Again, you're doing 'nothing matters' on a huge scandal that led to cartels being armed and guns being used to murder people. I understand everything is hypernormalized, but we don't have to partake in it.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Bernie gonna become a turgid, wriggling, Capital-D

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

white sauce posted:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahjahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


AHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

LOL

instead of tweeting BWHW start tweeting this graph at donut people instead

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Frijolero posted:

The ATF guy was a nobody, who resigned, wasn't fired.

Again, you're doing 'nothing matters' on a huge scandal that led to cartels being armed and guns being used to murder people. I understand everything is hypernormalized, but we don't have to partake in it.

it iced (heh) a BP agent tho

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

hes taken everything from her

delicious

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

What is important is that we focus on decorum.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/921395864639119363

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
the replies are gonna be so good to dave's tweet

in fact, they already are!

https://twitter.com/minnesotajo/status/921397190148476928

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

it iced (heh) a BP agent tho

Also approximately 150 Mexican civilians. :thumbsup:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

dore on the insane NYT op-ed saying the dems needed more wall st cash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvvjQsqNUDI

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Tell 'em to kick rocks, Bernie.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bernie will make the bankers take a hike! (an involuntary march through Appalachia to see the destruction they've wrought on working class America)

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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

comedyblissoption posted:

AFAIK caps are different between the hillary campaign and the DNC. if the DNC funnels money to the HVF who advertises in ways that act effectively as an arm of the clinton campaign, this means more corporate cash from federal lobbyists and PACs can be funneled to hillary organizations

the dnc doesn't funnel money to hvf, hvf funnels money to the dnc. the reason they did it that way is because the dnc essentially becomes a hillary organization after she's the nominee. it's totally taken over by the winning presidential campaign. they expected to win so they wanted a dnc flush with cash to spend on their campaign

quote:

lmao THE DNC LITERALLY DID THIS. what do you think the obama era prohibition on donations from lobbyists and PACs was if not telling other people who can and can't donate to them? the DNC literally controls the logistics of money that flows to campaigns and can even prohibit donations.

dnc prohibition was for donations to the dnc. the dnc is not an electoral organization for anyone except a presidential campaign. they don't "control the logistics of money that flows to campaigns" at all, that's just not how it works.

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