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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Wait what Doesn't seem that way from how they explain it. Eri doesn't know how to control her quirk so she now that she's using it she can't stop rewinding Deku as long as she's nearby, which would basically kill him. So Deku's plan is to continuously put massive strain on his body faster than her quirk works so it will continuously be rewinding that instead of erasing him from existence.
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That's not what i took from it, and i dislike that explanation so I'll live in the world of my explanation until the manga proves otherwise.
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Oct 21, 2017 03:07
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It might just be the translation but the words that are written are literally: "With Eri's quirk she can rewind humans. If you continue to hold her like that you'll disappear" And later: "I understand! She continues to revert my body with blinding speed. In that case, if i'm constantly accumulating grave injuries at an even greater speed..." Which yeah, means Eri is healing all his injuries from OFA but that's just to give her quirk something to do so he doesn't die while protecting her.
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Oct 21, 2017 03:16
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Last Celebration posted:I feel like you guys are being overly critical of the arc that gave us Best Boy Mirio Togata and by extension PHANTOM MENACE, but that’s just me. you're right it's impossible for these chapters to be full of holes and criticize them
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Oct 21, 2017 03:17
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Good news! The manga already did. Or the translation is poo poo or her powers make no sense within the arc. Oh wait...
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Oct 21, 2017 03:17
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SyntheticPolygon posted:It might just be the translation but the words that are written are literally: "With Eri's quirk she can rewind humans. If you continue to hold her like that you'll disappear" Yeah, as long as he's holding her. When he let go while using too much power, he collapsed from pain. So, option A: let go. Option B: release full power and hold on I took it not so much as "oh no i need to release full power to not die", but as "holy poo poo i can release full power if i Luke On Dagobah this poo poo." Yes, Eri is Yoda. There is no try, Deku. Only do, or do not. No "try".
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Yeah, as long as he's holding her. When he let go while using too much power, he collapsed from pain. He collapsed from pain not from bones breaking or anything like how his OFA injuries usually manifest but from his body "being pulled apart from the inside". Because as immediately explained by Overhaul Eri is unable to control her power. Leading to the whole "If you keep holding onto her you will disappear" thing. E: Deku even mentions that Eri already healed all his injuries from OFA before he had that fit of immense pain. Double E: I think I misunderstood your point sorry. Yeah he's definitely taking advantage of her quirk to go into overdrive, but it just so happens that going into overdrive is also the only way for him to survive her quirk as well. SyntheticPolygon fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Oct 21, 2017 03:32
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Why doesn't eri's power just reverse the chemical reactions in his cells 
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Oct 21, 2017 03:36
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I enjoyed this chapter but all this bitching just killed the hype. I've been saying this arc was bad since they started the raid with literally no plan, but I'm still happy to see a conclusion forthcoming.
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Oct 21, 2017 03:41
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the last two chapters killed the hype, not us
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Oct 21, 2017 03:51
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Super saiyans are cool tho
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Oct 21, 2017 03:54
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I'm guessing Eri's quirk also has to be for-real time rewinding because otherwise you'd still feel the pain from a broken bone snapping back into place But then that goes back to not making any sense that the rewind quirk hurts at all when it's unraveling you Shinjobi posted:Super saiyans are cool tho Doesn't matter when everything around the transformation is uncool.
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Oct 21, 2017 03:54
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Sure, but I've always tried to give Vegeta a pass so I think this transformation should get the same leeway.
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Blockhouse posted:I'm guessing Eri's quirk also has to be for-real time rewinding because otherwise you'd still feel the pain from a broken bone snapping back into place He'd be new jersey smashing the contents of his stomach all over Overhaul. Full Barf 100%
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Blockhouse posted:But then that goes back to not making any sense that the rewind quirk hurts at all when it's unraveling you Yeah, I can't really think of any explanation for this that makes any sense. I don't really know what he was thinking introducing this particular interpretation of Eri's quirk.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Why doesn't eri's power just reverse the chemical reactions in his cells also if hes being rewinded why doesnt he have like constant amnesia shouldnt his brain be getting rewinded too maybe its nanomachines
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Oct 21, 2017 05:31
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It's baffling because this is literally Orihime's healing power in Bleach but done in a way that wants to be more specific but in the process is actually less comprehensible If it was more clearly magic-y it would be easier to accept than this weird half-assed take
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I don't think it's like Orihime's ability other than that it heals sometimes.
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Oct 21, 2017 05:59
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I don't think it's like Orihime's ability other than that it heals sometimes. Through various combinations of the six fairies, Orihime has the power to reject phenomena by denying or undoing events in various forms. She can essentially rewind time/events. Kild fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Oct 21, 2017 06:08
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Yeah, as long as he's holding her. When he let go while using too much power, he collapsed from pain. His plan is very specifically to counteract her power trying to Ctrl + Z him out of existence by adding a bunch of damage to undo. It just so happens he's an expert at self mutilation and it's beneficial in the situation to go all-out anyway. There's not really any hairs to split on this one - he comments about being torn apart, Overhaul monologues to explain it's the out of control rewind, and Deku responds with the plan to self-harm. Overhaul says Eri's quirk is a curse and Deku is very specifically trying to overcome that statement at the moment, in addition to punching dude in the face. It's this page where it starts: http://readms.net/r/my_hero_academia/157/4641/14 Solanumai fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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been a while since I read bleach but the way I remember it, orihime rejects events entirely rather than rewinding them. eri takes you back to a state before you were hurt; orihime just deletes the injury itself from existence. in practice it works the same way more or less but eri's seems a lot less impractical since you're not stuck in a bubble when she's healing youShinjobi posted:Sure, but I've always tried to give Vegeta a pass so I think this transformation should get the same leeway. dragon ball is a very different thing than mha and never made it a recurring plot point that destroying yourself is wrong
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Manatee Cannon posted:dragon ball is a very different thing than mha and never made it a recurring plot point that destroying yourself is wrong I mean, this is a bit of an edge case here.
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Hey dudes, I just started watching the anime and I'm almost done season 2. What volume continues right after that? I wanna jump on the manga train as soon as I'm done. Also, I'm sure this question has been asked a lot, so sorry if that's true! I read a bit of the thread but don't wanna get spoiled. Thanks!
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Oct 21, 2017 06:25
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Vengarr posted:I mean, this is a bit of an edge case here. it makes sense for deku to do it because of the situation he's in but it doesn't make sense to write him into this situation in the first place considering everything that came before it imo
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Oct 21, 2017 06:29
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Just the previous arc Deku learned a new technique to stop breaking his bones (y'know kicking) and then this arc he's going into full self-destruction mode and it's pretty silly, even if the consequences are gone. Not exactly new though because in the arc after he started getting a handle on his cowl he got put into a situation where he needed to destroy his hands again, except harder this time.
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Oct 21, 2017 06:35
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What's actually hurting him is continuing to hold onto Eri, though. Going 100% is the only way to keep from dying. He's putting himself in danger, sure, but he's not doing so unreasonably.
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Unmature posted:Hey dudes, I just started watching the anime and I'm almost done season 2. What volume continues right after that? I wanna jump on the manga train as soon as I'm done. Season 2 ends a couple pages into Chapter 70.
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Vengarr posted:What's actually hurting him is continuing to hold onto Eri, though. Going 100% is the only way to keep from dying. Manatee Cannon posted:it makes sense for deku to do it because of the situation he's in but it doesn't make sense to write him into this situation in the first place considering everything that came before it imo it's dumb to write it like this after so much has been put into him growing away from breaking himself. it doesn't matter that he's getting healed if he still has to break himself to do anything
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One of the central running themes in Deku's development is learning to harness his power in a safe and manageable way and the plot has aligned in a way that not only rewards him for blowing himself to pieces irresponsibly, it basically demands it, and against a nothing of a villain. I really, really dislike that. What was the point of Deku developing Shoot Style and forcing himself to think about alternative approaches to problems if the very next time he's put in a desperate situation he immediately reverts to his original "blow himself to bits" approach? I had a pretty good chuckle at the end panel remembering the discussion about child endangerment, though.
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It makes perfect sense in the context of the story. But it's still weird that a major part of Deku's development with OFA is learning not to overexert himself and go beyond his limits lest he seriously injure himself in a way not even Recovery Girl can help him with. But now he's in a situation where not only does he have to overexert himself to the greatest degree in order to continually cause major injury onto himself, there is seemingly little consequence to this as the damage will heal and not doing so would actually kill him. And this isn't like a knock against Eri's quirk being too strong or whatever. I think it's largely fine, if a bit confusing because "rewind" is a strange way to utilise this kind of ability. But I think it's a strange direction for the story to go at this point. Then again similar situations have happened before in the manga so perhaps I shouldn't be too surprised. SyntheticPolygon fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:been a while since I read bleach but the way I remember it, orihime rejects events entirely rather than rewinding them. eri takes you back to a state before you were hurt; orihime just deletes the injury itself from existence. in practice it works the same way more or less but eri's seems a lot less impractical since you're not stuck in a bubble when she's healing you I was more just making fun of Vegeta. My bad.
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TriffTshngo posted:Season 2 ends a couple pages into Chapter 70. Thanks!
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I feel like the next chapter is gonna be him struggling to control 100% Full Cowl, where every little movement instantly launches him into orbit.
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Oct 21, 2017 06:55
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Oct 21, 2017 06:57
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He's gonna punch a giant rock dragon to rubble in a single blow and it'll be real great.
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Oct 21, 2017 07:05
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His leg is going to explode and Eri will have to fix it.
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Oct 21, 2017 07:23
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He's going to win and then carry on into the next arcs using 20% or so and those villains will feel weak because he already used 100% to beat lovely Bane who is somehow more boring than Tom Hardy Bane
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I think Deku's progression feels a bit...stagnant by now, mostly because whenever a real obstacle seems to show up Deku fails at surpassing it using his current skillset. I like shonen protagonists that aren't built up to be The Only poo poo That Matters but c'mon, if there ever was someone Deku could defeat without having to blow himself up again, I think Overhaul would be it. Give the boy a win that makes his own improvements mean something instead of being "nah, you still ain't poo poo" or "oh yeah you can self-destruct for massive damage".
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Oct 21, 2017 12:43
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No... Why start this plotline and end it with a two page spread after going nowhere with it?
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