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lightpole posted:Besides, as a civilian, the military is accountable to me, not the other way around, the troops should be thanking me for paying my taxes. But sometimes those taxes and votes are used to send the military to dumbass wars. Civilians, stop sending the military into lovely wars tia.
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mlmp08 posted:But sometimes those taxes and votes are used to send the military to dumbass wars. You can't be the dominant alpha unless you beat the poo poo out of someone once in a while. Civilians show their dominance by paying tax dollars for troops to get the poo poo beat out of them.
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Oct 21, 2017 17:46
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lightpole posted:What does the national anthem have to do with the military I don't get it. Thank you for your taxpaying. Gonna blow my paycheck on single mothers on the pole now.
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Oct 21, 2017 18:09
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lightpole posted:What does the national anthem have to do with the military I don't get it. Thank you for subsidizing my tinnitus you tremendous rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 21, 2017 18:17
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Trump is loving fantastic. Not just in the I don't live in the US level fantastic, but 11 dimensional chess fantastic. The poo poo he comes up with is not aimed at us. His rhetoric is aimed directly at the people it needs to be aimed at, we are not its audience. The scary thing is it is effective, I hope beyond hope someone really smart and charismatic does not step into his shoes and runs an 8 year agenda using his tactics. E: I could run a sandy vagina effort post on this, but I don't think I need to here. Spacman fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Oct 21, 2017 18:23
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mlmp08 posted:But sometimes those taxes and votes are used to send the military to dumbass wars. please help me balance this my country is dying "Spend less on wars." no
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Oct 21, 2017 18:35
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Stultus Maximus posted:The national anthem is a pretty lousy song, tbqh. Yeah. JJ Abrams should totally spice it up a bit.
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Oct 21, 2017 18:39
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bulletsponge13 posted:Also, real talk, if they would promise me that I would serve the length of my recall deployed and actually doing ill war poo poo, not dumb rear end Army gently caress gently caress bullshit, I'd go. Give me a good position, a 240 with ammo stockpiled at my position, I'll loving mow down Norks like it's vintage Korea. its loving october we're gonna end up invading in the middle of winter
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Oct 21, 2017 18:42
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With that executive order poo poo letting them call you all up, what's to stop you smoking a crack rock immediately prior to in processing and spidering around the joint to prevent you being declared fit? Genuine question.
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Oct 21, 2017 18:43
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Yeah. JJ Abrams should totally spice it up a bit. Yeah we should get a cool one like Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByKu8BwT5K4
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:its loving october we're gonna end up invading in the middle of winter And Korea gets REALLY COLD in the winter too. Up in the training grounds it was way below zero. laffo if you're still in
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Russia's national anthem is on point.
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Spacman posted:With that executive order poo poo letting them call you all up, what's to stop you smoking a crack rock immediately prior to in processing and spidering around the joint to prevent you being declared fit? They'd probably pull your retirement benefits, or atleast try to
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Oct 21, 2017 18:57
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Kawasaki Nun posted:They'd probably pull your retirement benefits, or atleast try to I get that, but they don't have a leg to stand on as it isn't codified from my reading of the amendment. So just yell at you while you laugh at them?
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Oct 21, 2017 19:02
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LingcodKilla posted:Thank you for your taxpaying. This makes me happy considering where my tax dollars could be going. I LICK APE PUSSY posted:Thank you for subsidizing my tinnitus you tremendous rear end in a top hat. Join the club. Inability to say anything bad about the military and say maybe they aren't the greatest at everything and maybe we shouldn't just dump more money into our troops has led us here and noone in the civilian world wants to talk about it as they will just get shouted down.
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Spacman posted:I get that, but they don't have a leg to stand on as it isn't codified from my reading of the amendment. It's pilots in the crosshairs, which is kind of tricky - many of them are airline pilots, so they can't jackass it up in any way that might endanger their FAA flight physical. So drugs, etc. are out, as are real or professed mental disorders. You could maybe say that you've become a conscientious objector in your retirement? That has some really weird ramifications though, I knew someone who got out as a CO and they got jerked around for years before the military let them out.
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A quick Google search says you can only be stripped of retirement benefits if you're convicted of a national security violation under the Hiss Act. I mean, I'm sure they'll try, but saying a retiree shouldn't have done enough drugs to melt the urinalysis cup because they should have known they were going to be drafted is probably a stretch.
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I can't find it but there's an edit of this where sarge says "You know we died at Chosin, right?"
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Prop Wash posted:It's pilots in the crosshairs, which is kind of tricky - many of them are airline pilots, so they can't jackass it up in any way that might endanger their FAA flight physical. So drugs, etc. are out, as are real or professed mental disorders. You could maybe say that you've become a conscientious objector in your retirement? That has some really weird ramifications though, I knew someone who got out as a CO and they got jerked around for years before the military let them out. Ahh cool, So you are now a member of the society of friends. I'm a Quaker like Nixon seems a good response to me!!! Additionally, I'm a chopper pilot and gently caress me if I wouldn't piss hot and chill out on my pension if the fuckers tried to call me up again. E: gently caress the Army, I paid in various levels of general fuckery and years of service to earn my freedom after them training me to fly death machines. Spacman fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Oct 21, 2017 19:12
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Spacman posted:I get that, but they don't have a leg to stand on as it isn't codified from my reading of the amendment. Once your recalled, you're on AD and the UCMJ applies. Art. 92, 112a, 115, 134. Punitive retention, less pay, less rank. Or suspend the punitive discharge and dangle the carrot of keeping your retirement based on your good behavior.
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McNally posted:A quick Google search says you can only be stripped of retirement benefits if you're convicted of a national security violation under the Hiss Act. This is the USAF we're talking about. They are absolutely willing to drop the hammer out of spite.
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joat mon posted:Once your recalled, you're on AD and the UCMJ applies. Art. 92, 112a, 115, 134. Punitive retention, less pay, less rank. Or suspend the punitive discharge and dangle the carrot of keeping your retirement based on your good behavior. There is no way that poo poo flys in a court. You have done your ROSO, and now have the rights normal people have again, no way the CinC can abrogate those rights without your consent.
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Spacman posted:There is no way that poo poo flys in a court. You have done your ROSO, and now have the rights normal people have again, no way the CinC can abrogate those rights without your consent. False. Retirees are legally subject to recall for life, though DOD policy is that it shouldn't happen over 60 or after 5+ years. Shouldn't. Not won't. Edit: 10 U.S. Code § 688 - Retired members: authority to order to active duty; duties posted:(a)Authority.— DoD Directive 1352.1, Management and Mobilization of Regular and Reserve Retired Military Members posted:(presented in order of callup) Cat 3 can be recalled but..."The nature and extent of the mobilization of category III retirees shall be determined by each Military Service, based on the retiree's military skill and, if applicable, the nature and degree of the retiree's disability. Category III retirees generally should be assigned to civilian jobs, unless they have critical skills or volunteer for specific military jobs. Age or disability alone may not be the sole basis for excluding a retiree from active military service during mobilization." Godholio fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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they should recall them and make them fly drones.
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Godholio posted:False. Retirees are legally subject to recall for life, though DOD policy is that it shouldn't happen over 60 or after 5+ years. Shouldn't. Not won't. No poo poo, why would you sign that?
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Because it's buried in a stack of retirement paperwork and you're just thinking about the pension.
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McNally posted:A quick Google search says you can only be stripped of retirement benefits if you're convicted of a national security violation under the Hiss Act. I think this is just for state and federal convictions, not court martial convictions. It may also only apply to federal, not military retirement pay. However, a conviction for quote:Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States: E: pretty sure the "can't take retirement away except for spying/disloyalty etc. is federal civilian retirement only. 5 usc 8312. Military retirement can be taken away by a punitive discharge. 10 usc 12740. joat mon fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Godholio posted:Because it's buried in a stack of retirement paperwork and you're just thinking about the pension. I am so sorry. Y'all gunna die on some lovely mountain in the DRPK with no name because of that. I'll hoist an apple juice for ya.
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Prop Wash posted:It's pilots in the crosshairs, which is kind of tricky - many of them are airline pilots, so they can't jackass it up in any way that might endanger their FAA flight physical. So drugs, etc. are out, as are real or professed mental disorders. You could maybe say that you've become a conscientious objector in your retirement? That has some really weird ramifications though, I knew someone who got out as a CO and they got jerked around for years before the military let them out. Its not like they're going to just bust into ATL or ORD and start shanghai'ing pilots though right? Wait. Nevermind.
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You know some hack writer is working on "M*A*S*H: The Next Generation" right now.
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Vasudus posted:And Korea gets REALLY COLD in the winter too. Up in the training grounds it was way below zero. It's a bitch because the rainy season ends just before winter starts, so the ground is basically mud that has frozen rock solid. It drat near killed my grandfather, and he grew up on a South Dakota dirt farm where it got 20 below zero during the winter. He thought he knew cold, then he spent Christmas of '51 in the mountains south of the DMZ.
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joat mon posted:I think this is just for state and federal convictions, not court martial convictions. It may also only apply to federal, not military retirement pay. Well, a court martial conviction tends to suggest you're not yet retired. I know they'll call up retirees to court martial them, but failing that, my (little) research suggests that a retiree can only lose benefits if convicted under the Hiss Act.
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LongDarkNight posted:You know some hack writer is working on "M*A*S*H: The Next Generation" right now. I have MASH on DVD and you can watch it without the laugh track.... Depressing as all gently caress, changes the whole show.
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LongDarkNight posted:You know some hack writer is working on "M*A*S*H: The Next Generation" right now. Besides AfterMASH, Trapper John MD, and W.A.L.T.E.R.?
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McNally posted:Well, a court martial conviction tends to suggest you're not yet retired. I know they'll call up retirees to court martial them, but failing that, my (little) research suggests that a retiree can only lose benefits if convicted under the Hiss Act. Hiss Act applies only to civilian federal employees. It's in title 5 (fed employees) of the U.S. Code, not Title 10 (armed forces) A punitive discharge makes you ineligible for retired pay.
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joat mon posted:Hiss Act applies only to civilian federal employees. It's in title 5 (fed employees) of the U.S. Code, not Title 10 (armed forces) My Google Fu is weak.
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Spacman posted:I have MASH on DVD and you can watch it without the laugh track.... Depressing as all gently caress, changes the whole show. I mean, there's a reason the theme song is suicide is painless. The show was depressing as gently caress. The laugh track just added a bit of levity to the story of the vietnam war based in korea.
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Yeah, but like the cock sucker major is actively sabotaging the efforts of the burned out doctors to help a kid with his guts hanging out because he is asian while the kid with the gimp hand (radar?) is dodging the powers that be and they are all drinking moonshine because their hands shake if they don't . Better with the laugh track. Kinda peak Army I guess
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Who likes Harvey Weinstein news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cXp8q2BoII
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