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Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
I prefer the two-headed Devopola. :getin:

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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Ruffian Price posted:

Devola had quite a few boss moves in the original game

And now you reminded me that batshit insane Popola is indirectly responsible for Emil's temporary death so it's back to a wash for me.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
I just finished my first route with the "A" ending and was wondering if there was some sorte of minimal spoiler guide on the other ones? From hearing people talk about it since release I know that Route B involves a lot of replaying until a certain point where you get to make a choice and I want to know a bit more about it so I don't miss it, plus I know nothing about the other Routes - except that apparently the actual, actual ending is Route E.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
Route B doesn't have a choice to make. The point of no return is in the same place as A, when you get to the flooded city.

There are only three routes. Route C is completely different and has three endings, which is very obviously signposted, and you do not need to replay all of C to get all the endings.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
Oh, thanks!

I was a bit confused by The Flooded City cutting some of my sidequests because there's some that I'm sure I still could not do(The Parade Defense and that one with the Level 50 Giant Robot) but I'll probably get around to do it this time.

I'm not the brightest person so I'll look for something about Route C's endings when I get there anyway.

vkeios
May 7, 2007




When you beat route C. You get the ability to go to any chapter of the game. So you can do those harder quests (parade) when you're better equipped if you want. That's also how you can do the various endings in route C quickly. They're super obvious btw, it's one choice that determines what you get.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

Samuringa posted:

Oh, thanks!

I was a bit confused by The Flooded City cutting some of my sidequests because there's some that I'm sure I still could not do(The Parade Defense and that one with the Level 50 Giant Robot) but I'll probably get around to do it this time.

I'm not the brightest person so I'll look for something about Route C's endings when I get there anyway.

Side quest completion in A is remembered in B, and the high level stuff is meant to be done in B. Just remember to get everything done that you want to get done before you get in the flight suits in Flooded City.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Samuringa posted:

Oh, thanks!

I was a bit confused by The Flooded City cutting some of my sidequests because there's some that I'm sure I still could not do(The Parade Defense and that one with the Level 50 Giant Robot) but I'll probably get around to do it this time.

I'm not the brightest person so I'll look for something about Route C's endings when I get there anyway.

The game seems to give some quests way too early. For example, I'd wait until you've almost completed route B before tackling the parade mission. There's no way in hell to beat it in route A without obsessively grinding levels for hours and hours.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
The character in B makes the parade much easier to handle too.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Raxivace posted:

Alright thread it's time for an important question to be answered that I've been agonizing over for months. Many a night has it caused me to suddenly awaken in the night in a cold sweat...

Popola or Devola?

Popola. She never stops.

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
Whelp, just finished this game tonight. It was kind of a lot, endings D and E are a real one-two punch when done back to back. Ending D hosed me up a lot harder than I thought it was going to after C, weirdly enough.

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great
Yoko Taro (and some anime con) is asking for the truth:
https://twitter.com/yokotaro/status/918051457739374592
Warning: this man might know all our deepest desires.

Don't remember anything spoilery but ymmv.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

That Quiz posted:

If you were stranded on a deserted island, who will you like to have as an accomplice?
(a) 2B
(b) 9S
(c) A2
(d) Pascal
(e) Adam
(f) Eve
(g) Commander
(h) Operators
(I) Flight unit
(J) Emil
(K) Sorry, NieR. I would prefer to get stranded with a FF character

Which body parts of 2B do you like?
(a) hairstyle
(b) face
(c) mole
(d) tits
(e) legs
(f) butt
:thunk:

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



RoadCrewWorker posted:

Yoko Taro (and some anime con) is asking for the truth:
https://twitter.com/yokotaro/status/918051457739374592
Warning: this man might know all our deepest desires.

Don't remember anything spoilery but ymmv.

Apparently, Taro linked it after the deadline for the attached contest.

I mean, the poll is its own reward, but I figured it was worth mentioning the fact Taro is asking people to enter a contest that is no longer open, just in case anyone needed more reason to like him.

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!

See, people are gonna pick the Flight Unit, but what they don't know is that it's gained sentience and a severe phobia of heights.

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great
Also includes: finally a reason to buy a VR headset.

chiasaur11 posted:

I mean, the poll is its own reward
Pretty much. I wasn't even sure if the contest was just another joke. Which i guess it wasn't, which makes it an extra funny one.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Oh man. I really want a physics related farming simulator about the nature of man now.

I hope they still kept my answers, even if I was late :(

Gibbering
May 24, 2014

:catdrugs:
I want the adult game with only machine life forms.

clang clang clang

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Gibbering posted:

I want the adult game with only machine life forms.

clang clang clang

"Brother, wake up..." clang clang clang :pervert:

Know Such Peace
Dec 30, 2008
The Dark ID's LP thread just got to Route C if anyone wants to start following along now.

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
I should have probably put this here instead of General chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxDPUZrcwAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w11INDVbI8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgzvupE6LY0

Also, there's a PS4 Nier theme for free where you can hear Nier music every time you turn on your PS4 rather than that awful default PS4 noise.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

The Flight Unit themes? They're kind of boring though.

I wish they just sold the pre-order theme. I would have paid a few bucks for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C8c9EGPkSg

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
That would be better, yeah. But it's still the song that plays in one of the most powerful moments in the game. I like hearing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKYs_lRtOk

atholbrose
Feb 28, 2001

Splish!

I got Theatrhythm for the 3DS recently, and was happy to see there were a few Nier tracks in the download store. I finally got them -- and they came with specific graphics for the songs. The Shadowlord's theme, for instance, has that room with curtains blowing in the breeze, and Devola's Song of the Ancients has you strolling through town. It's been a while now since I played Nier, and I have to admit, hearing the music again was great, and together with the visuals provoked a sense of nostalgia I wasn't expecting.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

Theatrhythm is a DLC flytrap and if they do a Switch release I am going to cry blood and money

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Fortunately the pain of having to buy each track separately stopped me from bothering with too many.

pr0p
Dec 8, 2011
The Amusement Park theme with vocals is what sticks to me hardest. For how many times it felt like I had to pass through that area, the robots dancing along with the cool tunes are a treat.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

pr0p posted:

The Amusement Park theme with vocals is what sticks to me hardest. For how many times it felt like I had to pass through that area, the robots dancing along with the cool tunes are a treat.

It's a great little moment when you first enter it and all the robots are doing their little dances and parades while the theme plays. It was my favorite area of the game and it was pretty tragic when (ROUTE C) you go back after the Tower is raised and they're all zombified and everything is silent.

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?
Seeing a clip of that song and walking into that area for the first time is what led me to take the game out and finally play it after having bought it and put it unopened on a shelf for a couple months. It's pretty great.

I actually wound up picking this game back up and running some sidequests yesterday, which surprised me. I usually play RPGS one of two ways, either ignoring the main quest entirely (e.g. Bethesda games), or ignoring most of the sidequests to keep the main story chugging along and never playing again (Witcher, HZD, most JRPGs). Who knows, this may be the only game in several years I've actually gone back to see and do everything.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Know Such Peace posted:

The Dark ID's LP thread just got to Route C if anyone wants to start following along now.

A lot of the responses from people reading the LP blind are pretty great.

Know Such Peace
Dec 30, 2008
I’m pretty sure a majority of people in the thread know what happens in the game, but it’s still fun to react to events as they occur in the LP.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
best opening credit roll in gaming history?

Know Such Peace
Dec 30, 2008
Speaking of the LP thread, I thought I'd elaborate on one of my recent posts with less regard for spoilery stuff:

I posted:

I mentioned a couple pages back that I preferred the Japanese VA for one particular line read, and this is the update where it happens. After the Commander tells the duo that it is their duty to survive and the track "Crumbling Lies" begins playing, 2B pauses for a moment before shouting out in an attempt to convince the Commander to come with them. It's a heartbreaking moment. 2B is a loyal soldier of YoRHa and obviously has an enormous amount of respect for the Commander. When she has to abruptly deal with both the Commander and most of YoRHa's death all at once, 2B has a micro-freakout. The Commander reiterates her orders, and 9S manages to drag 2B over to the flight units for their escape.

In my head canon, 2B believed that everything would eventually work out as long as the Commander was safe.
Here is a clip of that scene.
Automata/Yoko's route system makes this moment amazing. I kept trying to figure out what was going to happen next, and I kept guessing wrong. Immediately after B's final boss encounter, I assumed that we'd finally play as A2 and find out what she was doing during the events of A/B. A2 knows YoRHa's secret, and her struggle to figure out what to do with that knowledge would be the main drive of Route C. I was wrong.

I assumed that our attack on Earth would reveal the dark side of YoRHa, and we would have to choose between abandoning YoRHa or executing the 'good machines' that had disconnected from the main network. I was wrong.

When we wake up back at base, tell the Commander what happened on the ground, and she accuses us of treason, I assumed that the game was going to be about escaping from the clutches of Nazi YoRHa and reuniting with A2 in order to tell the world what actually happened on the moon. I was wrong.

When we defeat the virus-infected YoRHa members in the control room and begin to escort the Commander through the Bunker, I assumed that the game was going to be about recovering from the destruction of most of YoRHa's resources. It's like when poo poo goes wrong in a spy film, and the heroes have to go underground, regroup, and eventually succeed against all odds in taking out the enemy. I was wrong.

The Commander's death closes off most of the remaining 'hopeful' options for what could happen next. YoRHa is pretty well defeated after she is killed. NieR: Automata reveals that it isn't a game in which the good guys will be able to rally and win. 2B is now a soldier without an army or a cause to fight for. 9S has his feelings for 2B and little else. Our friend Pascal's peaceful village seems particularly vulnerable now that the machine overlords have flexed their true strength. The Route C credits begin the exact moment where hope begins to fade from the game. The title card finally drops about ten minutes later after the last significant source of hope is extinguished. The world is thrown into complete chaos for the remainder of the game. The world systematically kills anything else you grew to care about, often in the most tragic way possible.

Routes A&B are world-building. Route C is world-destroying.

UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007

by Pragmatica
The Japanese voices do own. I like that part too. Also, agreed that the plot of the game is amazing.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Samuringa posted:

It's a great little moment when you first enter it and all the robots are doing their little dances and parades while the theme plays. It was my favorite area of the game and it was pretty tragic when (ROUTE C) you go back after the Tower is raised and they're all zombified and everything is silent.

Not ALL!

One machine had the sense to be on break.

Remember, kids. A well timed break could save your life!

ZiegeDame
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!

SatansBestBuddy posted:

A lot of the responses from people reading the LP blind are pretty great.

Every time someone mentions 21O I get this big evil grin.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
It is so hard not to comment on the fact that we haven't even gotten to the most dramatic part of this sequence.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Hunt11 posted:

It is so hard not to comment on the fact that we haven't even gotten to the most dramatic part of this sequence.

I for one look forward to seeing the thread's reaction to the village.

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

iospace posted:

I for one look forward to seeing the thread's reaction to the village.

The way the children all suicide in a big pile is probably the darkest thing seen in this entire series. Yoko Taro was saving up all his dead children chips to cash them all in at once.

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The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
The trick with the village will be never going there as 9S before finishing A2's side of the route.

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