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and yeah think about loving martok for a second, and now think about the STDingons. tell me you're gonna find one, just ONE guy with a tenth the personality of martok in that entire gang of super-serious duper-boring full-mouth-talkers redesigned especially for star trek: crotch rot
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star trek isn't about really good characters any more, it's more about mystery boxes and really nice visuals you're looking for 'Gotham'
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I've only seen like the first two Discovery episodes due to travelling, but do the new Klingons even speak in the original Klingon?
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Oct 23, 2017 13:32
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chaosbreather posted:star trek isn't about really good characters any more, it's more about mystery boxes and really nice visuals If you really want to watch Star Trek, check your local listings for "The Orville"
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chaosbreather posted:sisko is a commander because he was just some guy they wanted to run a nice, quiet station in boonies. when starfleet realises what they signed him up for they wanted to yank him and get someone good but the kai said no way, he's space jesus, you pull him and we are done. so he gets promoted in season 3 when starfleet realises that you cant have a three-pip whip basically in charge of the future of the alpha quadrant Part of the promotion was because they got the Defiant as a means to
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Iron Crowned posted:If you really want to watch Star Trek, check your local listings for "The Orville" orville has great star trek-tier plots but not star trek deep space nine tier characters i'm talkin garak, martok, ducat, alpaca, and motherfuckin damar Ghostlight posted:I've only seen like the first two Discovery episodes due to travelling, but do the new Klingons even speak in the original Klingon? yeah 2009-on nutrek klingon has never been spoken better, with none of the constant pronunciation errors you'd find in even feature films, but it doesn't sound the same because they get them to do a different mouth pose and there's some appliances in there so it sounds way different and i guess they're trying to sound less like cool pirates you'd want to party with and more like indiana jones just-over-the-line-racist nightmare tribesmen.
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chaosbreather posted:orville has great star trek-tier plots but not star trek deep space nine tier characters We're only 4 episodes in so far!
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Oct 23, 2017 14:13
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Six in I think. Yeah, Pilot, Zoo Trap, About a Girl, Generation Ship, Pria, and Going for the Krill
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Iron Crowned posted:We're only 4 episodes in so far! episode 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJgdVLk2C2c
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Gatekeeper posted:i could have sworn that there was a conscious decision to make sisko start out as a commander because they were concerned about reactions to a black captain. and if the responses to a woman captain are any indication, they def weren't needlessly concerned. but it's possible this is just an assumption i made forever ago and convinced myself that like, ira steven behr or whoever said it in an interview I think I read they basically made him a commander to differentiate him from the captains in the other shows. The concept being Kirk was an Explorer and Picard was a front line diplomat, both of which are all based around moving on from episode to episode as a new challenge arises, basically discarding what happened in the near past because they've already moved on. Sisko though as a builder, he didn't want to move on, he wanted to stay in the same place and build something fantastic (which is why is came from a shipyard, building things). Thus as a Commander it emphasises he's not in his own shop flirting around the galaxy, but he's sat at home, building. That could all be bullshit to cover up for racism though.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:27
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How much of DS9 aired out of production order? I was watching on Netflix along with greatest gen, but Netflix has it in production order and they are doing airing order so it was different episodes. I'm just wondering how often this will happen and if I'll have to bother looking up air date.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:28
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Good news everybody! STD has been renewed for a second season! http://bit.ly/2xZ0yQE
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Oct 23, 2017 14:38
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Six in I think. Took me a minute to remember Pria, so that was probably the weakest episode so far, but yeah, you are correct.
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Automatic Slim posted:Good news everybody! STD has been renewed for a second season! Wow. I'm kinda amazed, because with all the bullshit CBS has pulled it looked an awful lot like they wanted that show taken out back and shot as soon as possible.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Wow. I'm kinda amazed, because with all the bullshit CBS has pulled it looked an awful lot like they wanted that show taken out back and shot as soon as possible. Don't underestimate the power of the Star Trek name, my dad subscribed to the service just for the STD. I suspect the name holds a lot of sway for people who grew up during the original run of TOS. People our age grew up on TNG+, and I think we're a lot less willing to pay for a new streaming service just for one show.
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Automatic Slim posted:Good news everybody! STD has been renewed for a second season! Hooray!
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Iron Crowned posted:Don't underestimate the power of the Star Trek name, my dad subscribed to the service just for the STD. I suspect the name holds a lot of sway for people who grew up during the original run of TOS. People our age grew up on TNG+, and I think we're a lot less willing to pay for a new streaming service just for one show. It's got nothing to do with what fans think. If that were true, Firefly would've actually lasted more than 12 episodes, etc, etc  . CBS have gone out of their way to sabotage STD as best as they could manage since day-one.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's got nothing to do with what fans think. If that were true, Firefly would've actually lasted more than 12 episodes, etc, etc Or maybe Firefly was always a niche show with niche appeal that was never going to reach a main stream audience; whereas star trek has wide spread brand recognition and the JJ Abrams movies made Star Trek not Just For Nerds and now millions of people watch it every week. Firefly's peak viewing was the same number of people as the country in question's magic the gathering customer base.
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Kitchner posted:Or maybe Firefly was always a niche show with niche appeal that was never going to reach a main stream audience; whereas star trek has wide spread brand recognition and the JJ Abrams movies made Star Trek not Just For Nerds and now millions of people watch it every week. Totally missing the point there; Sometimes studios just go out of their way to kill a show because someone with enough pull doesn't like it. Episodes get aired out of order, or it gets consigned to a Death Slot, so they have reason enough to legitimately pull the plug.
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I did like that the Federation didn't actually make ol' Grim and Crazy a captain. He was a normal starfleet officer, and then the war broke his brain. PTSD doesn't make him a better character, but it does make the Federation better. He's not normal, he's not okay, and they didn't promote an rear end in a top hat just because he gets results. He's literally having a mental health crisis.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:45
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He's Commodore Decker without a Spock/Bones to realize he's gone off the deep end.
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I was more triggered by the use of the word "loving" than the space queers brushing their teeth together. What have you done to my trek 
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Why would you be triggered by the "space queers"
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I'm not actually triggered by them, Fartbox. My attempt at humor. 
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Its totally fine right now, but if seth grows the beard will the Orville get better
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Does anyone know what story STD is trying to tell? We're through 6 of the 15 episodes for the season and I still have no idea if it's about the war, this spore drive they're never able to use again for reasons, t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶a̶r̶d̶i̶g̶r̶a̶d̶e̶ or Burnham's redemption.
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Nothing loving happened in this episode. Nothing.
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It’s about slowly methodically deconstructing the “leaders must take risks and be bold in order to win wars to keep us safe” myth and in that way it totally loving owns.
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STD is so full of issues where do you even start? Why isn't our main character dropping harsh and hilarious Vulcan logic burns on the rest of the crew like Spock and Tuvok? Being raised as a Vulcan seems like a license to be a total prick so long as the logic checks out. Instead shes telling the annoying ginger about healthy breakfast burritos and the importance of jogging. 
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Oct 23, 2017 22:01
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I enjoyed the computer acting like something out of Demolition Man when talking about how healthy the breakfast was. This is exactly what Star Trek should be like.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:It’s about slowly methodically deconstructing the “leaders must take risks and be bold in order to win wars to keep us safe” myth and in that way it totally loving owns. Holy poo poo is STD disrespecting the sacrifices and achievements of Captain Archer.
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numberoneposter posted:Instead shes telling the annoying ginger about healthy breakfast burritos and the importance of jogging. She may have cured lycopene deficiency in a huge number of sedentary CBS All Access subscribers. Nu-Vulcanism is all about imparting health and efficiency tips out past the 4th wall, but indirectly. Next week its a warning about replacing your dish sponge when Dr. Toothbrush has a problem with sudden mycelium die-off.
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numberoneposter posted:New star trek episode is bad 
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numberoneposter posted:STD is so full of issues where do you even start? breakfast burrito scene was good and not awkward at all
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I'm the children's book they read in the Star Trek future: Nobody Poops
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