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Yeah like, who cares if you are 304 or 305 It doesn’t make a difference to anything Like if you are enjoying playing the game and you hit max light, cool but don’t torture yourself to get a number one higher.
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Hey I know video games don't matter y'all. I just like big maxed out numbers okay
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Oct 23, 2017 15:24
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Tei posted:Maybe they think they don't have enough content for that. That people will have full gear too faster and say "theres nothing to do". I suppose they probably could have enough content if they focused a little less on making ghost shells.
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Oct 23, 2017 15:52
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FishBulb posted:Yeah like, who cares if you are 304 or 305 You can't get 300 engrams and elevate your other gear, so yeah, it matters. the good fax machine posted:I suppose they probably could have enough content if they focused a little less on making ghost shells. Ghost Shells are hilariously stupid. All they seem to be good for is finding more chests on planets, which just makes you hit the chest cooldown faster. If you get a 10% xp in crucible + extra faction emblems, you're pretty much set. I'm starting to think the best patrol ghost is 10% xp and chest find. gently caress those lil resource nodes. They also help you hit the chest cap faster, which results in fewer planet tokens. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 23, 2017 |
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Oct 23, 2017 16:06
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I’ve got two hunters to 20 but swapping gear and redoing milestones on the alt didn’t get me better luminous gear based on power level. Is there no point to duplicating classes anymore?
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Oct 23, 2017 16:14
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Chilichimp posted:You can't get 300 engrams and elevate your other gear, so yeah, it matters. You can get plenty of 295-300 blues that will elevate your gear just fine, not that it matters since the difference between 304 and 305 is nothing and the difference between 295 and 305 is double nothing IBentMyWookie posted:I’ve got two hunters to 20 but swapping gear and redoing milestones on the alt didn’t get me better luminous gear based on power level. Is there no point to duplicating classes anymore? Yeah, basically
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Oct 23, 2017 16:15
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IBentMyWookie posted:I’ve got two hunters to 20 but swapping gear and redoing milestones on the alt didn’t get me better luminous gear based on power level. Is there no point to duplicating classes anymore? Correct, they patched that out shortly after launch. Duplicate classes is no longer a path to faster leveling.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:16
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Yep, there's a system in place to prevent you from benefitting from multiple of the same class.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:18
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Not sure why they bothered with character slots for D2. Start up the game the first time, you get prefab titan/hunter/warlock pregenned characters and when you select it you get the face customization stage. Also you shouldn't have to back out to the character select screen to switch classes. Add an extra button near the subclass selection to instantly morph between the three classes so you can swap while staying in your fireteam. 
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Oct 23, 2017 16:20
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Also for simplicity they should remove non-arc subclasses on warlock and titan.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:23
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Yes they need subclass week, you pledge to a subclass and go farm tokens and whichever subclass for each class gets the fewest turnins is permanently deleted from the game. At least until the live team redesigns it to be something fun, and they run another subclass week. It's evolution bitches.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:25
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Rubellavator posted:Yep, there's a system in place to prevent you from benefitting from multiple of the same class. poo poo I must have missed that. Glad I saw your post before I started leveling up a second warlock.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:26
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Crucible is poo poo, I loving hate supremacy and I seem to get it as the mode 4/5 games I play. I can't do all the modes from D1 and I can't queue for what mode I want to play which are both dumb as poo poo. All of these changes from D1 for an esport that doesn't interest anyone. At this point I don't think either Bungie or individuals can even run tournaments because there are no custom modes you can set up. Truly a well made and thought out multiplayer experience that is esport ready. I want to like D2 as much as I did D1, but at this rate I'm glad I held off buying the season pass at launch.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:27
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haveblue posted:Correct, they patched that out shortly after launch. Duplicate classes is no longer a path to faster leveling. drat that sucks. So if I had different classes I’d at least benefit from repeating the different milestones by hoping for higher weapon rolls?
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Oct 23, 2017 16:30
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IBentMyWookie posted:drat that sucks. So if I had different classes I’d at least benefit from repeating the different milestones by hoping for higher weapon rolls? Yeah, plus you would get to experience titan jump for 1/3rd of the time you’re farming milestones.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:43
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FishBulb posted:You can get plenty of 295-300 blues that will elevate your gear just fine, not that it matters since the difference between 304 and 305 is nothing and the difference between 295 and 305 is double nothing At 304, blues drop at 293/294 and are worthless for infusing anything. You're basically waiting for powerful engrams to reset to raise anything above 300. Vendors also never randomly sell at 300, which is what I was talking about in the first place.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:48
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Ok whatever I don’t know the specifics of the drop system because my point is it doesn’t matter and who cares There is no reason to get to 305 light unless you are creating a reason for yourself. Free yourself from your self imposed punishment.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:03
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Reduces your stress for leveling up in XP1~
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Oct 23, 2017 17:07
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FishBulb posted:Ok whatever I don’t know the specifics of the drop system because my point is it doesn’t matter and who cares You are in a time machine timeported back to 1984. You are in a bar. You naturally flow to the back where theres a small group of people lodly celebrating the progress of a guy in a arcade machine. The machine is playing Galaga. The dude completed level 255 with 65535 points. Everyone is celbrating, drunk has hell, some women hugs you, her nipples are solid steel. You feel unconfortable "points are meaningless" you say out loud. Silence. Many faces look at you, angry. "What are you, some zen buddist monk?" Say one in strong liverpoolian accent.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:20
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Liverpudlian. Voted 4.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:30
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FishBulb posted:Ok whatever I don’t know the specifics of the drop system because my point is it doesn’t matter and who cares Certain PVP modes take your light level into account when facing competition. Being 304 just makes it harder to diversify your builds with max light poo poo. 305, otoh, allows you to max all of your good off-build poo poo with random trash you get from planet vendors. It's not a punishment I inflict on myself, they've inflicted it on me. You preaching buddhist principles re: advancement in an RPG is kind of misplaced wisdom. No one is beating themselves up over not being 305, we just -want- to be 305, full stop, and the reasons are evident beyond the obvious e-peen measurements.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:31
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Chilichimp posted:Certain PVP modes take your light level into account when facing competition. What?
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Oct 23, 2017 17:37
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Chilichimp posted:Certain PVP modes take your light level into account when facing competition. no, they don't
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Oct 23, 2017 17:37
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Well gently caress, my entire point is gone. I guess they stripped that from IB and Trials?
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Oct 23, 2017 17:37
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Chilichimp posted:Certain PVP modes take your light level into account when facing competition. Being 304 just makes it harder to diversify your builds with max light poo poo. Nnnnnope. I look forward to jumping past 305 easily with my first blue drop from the expansion.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:38
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they are stuck in the destiny 1 mindset where light level actually mattered and was also difficult to raise and required min/maxing to not waste your time. that was bad but so is this, they pivoted way too hard in the other direction and everything is loving pointless may as well go play some hoop and stick.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:39
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Mr. Unlucky posted:they are stuck in the destiny 1 mindset where light level actually mattered and was also difficult to raise and required min/maxing to not waste your time. that was bad but so is this, they pivoted way too hard in the other direction and everything is loving pointless may as well go play some hoop and stick. Uh hoop and stick is great please dont belittle my pastimes in between content drops.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:41
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Chilichimp posted:Certain PVP modes take your light level into account when facing competition. Being 304 just makes it harder to diversify your builds with max light poo poo. No they don’t and even when they did in Destiny 1 they didn’t. There is no reason to be past 300 in Destiny 2, and you could argue that isn’t even very important (prestige NF is 300 but you could do that lower if you wanted) I dunno what the HM raid is at. The game gives you no reason to care about being past 300.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:41
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FishBulb posted:No they don’t and even when they did in Destiny 1 they didn’t. There is no reason to be past 300 in Destiny 2, and you could argue that isn’t even very important (prestige NF is 300 but you could do that lower if you wanted) I dunno what the HM raid is at. Someone on reddit posted about how they did damage tests with 305 light in the raid vs 300 and there was no difference. I'm not sure how true that is, but it seems plausible.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:44
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Even in D1 when "light level mattered" Bungie rigged the curve so you had to basically be some dipshit running around in green armor to actually see an impact on your ability to fight.
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Light level didn’t even effectively matter in D1 IB or Trials, either. On paper it did, but it was so rare to see someone participate at a light level where it made a noticeable difference that it may as well have been LL disabled.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:47
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Anora posted:Like there is almost no reason to do Strikes, PvP, Strikes A) Linear and easy B) Stay in a queue C) Don't take long D) Give a lot of tokens compared to other activities E) You somehow don't have all the Vanguard weapons yet  Crucible A) Prove you aren't a huge weenie B) Hone your skills C) Killing is fun
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Oct 23, 2017 17:50
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xzzy posted:Even in D1 when "light level mattered" Bungie rigged the curve so you had to basically be some dipshit running around in green armor to actually see an impact on your ability to fight. Even the illusion of getting more damage helps. Every time you wipe in a endgame activity like a raid or a nightfall you can tell yourself "This is hard, but If I get gud, I will be more powerful in the next Iron Banner". Bungie "lol, who cares" nihilist approach to endgame as killed Trials, Iron Banner and the Raid for a lot of people.
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Oct 23, 2017 17:56
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My favorite thing about this game is it made me skip my annual resub to WoW in October every loving year cuz my brain is broken.
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Oct 23, 2017 18:09
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What is the point of the Prestige versions of things anyway? As far as I can tell the nightfall doesn't give anything extra and the raid is a mediocre shader and an emblem. Being 285 is where light really stops mattering in D2 for the regular raid.
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Oct 23, 2017 18:12
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FishBulb posted:No they don’t and even when they did in Destiny 1 they didn’t. There is no reason to be past 300 in Destiny 2, and you could argue that isn’t even very important (prestige NF is 300 but you could do that lower if you wanted) I dunno what the HM raid is at. 305 is 300, it'sn just the confusing mod situation. People who are 304 are 299. the reason to be at 300 (without mods) is to be able to infuse your other poo poo up to 300 to be able to use it this isn't hard dude. Finally, even though basically nothing matters, it's frustrating to be held back from the above by what amounts to pure RNG. Bungie failed to learn that RNG is best used to add variety, not to govern progression, and if RNG is gonna govern progression it needs to be frequent and forgiving as hell (AoT style).
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Oct 23, 2017 18:13
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You can use 299 gear instead of 300 gear. Nothing bad will come of it. I promise.
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Oct 23, 2017 18:27
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99% of my issues with D2's loot would be fixed if there was three times more of it. Just like D1, people who start the game in Y2 are in for a treat
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Oct 23, 2017 18:28
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Numbers really mattered in WoW but as it was said - they mean jack poo poo here past like 285-290. It's a sham of a system and Bungie needs to be taken to task for loving up the end game once again AFTER LEARNING WHAT THE gently caress after 3 years.
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deadwing posted:99% of my issues with D2's loot would be fixed if there was three times more of it. Just like D1, people who start the game in Y2 are in for a treat There are hundreds of "classified" items still in the manifest, so unless that's all development poo poo that didn't get purged from the database there's probably a ton of unreleased stuff for them to string us along with.
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