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Y'all anthropomorphizing droids and forcing gender norms on them.
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Where are my transgender droids, Disney?
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Oct 21, 2017 07:47
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loving droids and their pronouns
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Oct 21, 2017 10:20
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If you think R2D2 wouldnt exchange data with anything with a connector port you just dont know that droid
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Oct 21, 2017 15:03
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"Luke, tell your uncle if he gets a translator, make sure zhe speaks Bocce!"
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Oct 21, 2017 18:29
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Lord Hydronium posted:R2 had a girlfriend in Legends. She was of course pink and had heels: This is heteronormativity
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Oct 23, 2017 01:10
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An egg with sexy legs and heels Not quite up there with Waru or Han punching an otter in the face, or a psychotic lagomorph hanging out with Kyle Katarn, but hey, it happened
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Today I watched Attack of the Clones and took notes while I was doin' it. This movie open with Padme's space ship turning upside down and then being blown up. It's a fairly good metaphor for what happens for what happens to the galaxy in it. I think that the opening shots of spaceships in all these Star Wars is pretty significant. I'll be paying closer attention to them as I continue going through the series. Here's a few I can remember off the top of my head: A New Hope: a small spaceship desperately flees a large Evil Triangle, which catches and eats it. The film deals with the galaxy's domination by the Empire. The Empire Strikes Back: an Evil Triangle lays eggs. The Phantom Menace: a small Evil Triangle intimidates a much larger Destructo-Sphere. All Jedi end up doing exactly what they say they aren't there to do in this movie. Obi-Wan in particular is hilariously hypocritical. Anakin, meanwhile, is shown as chafing against their authority during the scene where they chase Zam through Blade Runner's Los Angeles. I love the design of Palpatine's office. This movie's full of disguises. It's the most semiotically rich Star War of them all, and it makes some sacrifices to achieve this density. In particular, to a greater extent than any of the others, in the interests of speed, it relies on spoken exposition to establish the plot logic, and dialog is not George Lucas' strong point. He can establish really strong dramatic irony with lines like "If droids could think, none of us would be here" and "If an item doesn't appear in our records, it does not exist," and make a character's feelings perfectly clear by having them describe them explicitly, but this bluntness doesn't suit a movie that's all about lies and manipulation. For instance, it's seemingly a throwaway line during Anakin and Padme's departure for Naboo that the Chancellor authorized an investigation into the attacks on Padme's life. That means Palpatine is the one who set Obi-Wan on the trail that leads to Geonosis. It's not obvious that the whole trail of clues - the venomous insects released by the droid sent by Zam who was conspicuously killed by Jango Fett who lives on Kamino where Darth Tyranus ordered a clone army - was planted, specifically so that following them would lead to war. One thing that is striking me on a rewatch is how thoroughly Padme's life is controlled by people around her. It is subtler than Anakin's situation, but it adds an element to their tragic relationship. Hayden Christiansen is portraying a very challenging character in this, one who is, himself, acting all the time. "Wooden" is completely wrong. While Natalie Portman sort of melds Padme's public and private personas - the peace-loving loyalist idealist who keeps a gun in her throne and indulges in the thrill of war - Christiansen alternates between the stiffened formality of Anakin the dutiful pupil, and the tempest of emotions - frustration, loneliness, horny, self-loathing - that he holds in check. Lot of gorgeous shots in this movie. This was the first major film to be shot on a digital camera, and the resolution of the camera was less than 1080p, and I noticed a few artifacts. I'm not sure how much they touched it up for the blu-ray (I know they replaced the puppet Yoda in The Phantom Menace with a CGI one who's much better-looking than the CGI Yoda in this one). Some of the digital compositing has visible seams. Some of the CGI is not as well-animated as we've become used to in the intervening 15 years. Meanwhile, a lot of the props and sets are very smooth and very brightly, evenly lit - a bit of Wes Anderson - to make them look less real. Yoda, who warns against fear so often, is the voice of fear in most of his scenes. The sound in the scene where Obi-Wan and Jango are in the asteroids around Geonosis is famous, but the visual design is great too. The lighting in particular. Duality between water and sand. It'd be a theme even if Anakin hadn't tried to segue into a smooch after calling it out explicitly. Anakin picks up a handful of sand from his mother's grave and swears he'll never lose a loved one again. Then he gets a chance to save another parent, and he's about to lose him again. Then Padme leaps into action to prevent him from being too late again. Count Dooku's temptation of Obi-Wan is an ambiguous scene to me. Side note: Count Dooku is a tremendous sci-fi name. Combine "Count Dracula" (naturally, portrayed by Christopher Lee) with "Prince Barin" (as worthy an allusion as any), you get Count Duke. Anyway. It's an ambiguous scene to me. Is Dooku in over his head and trying to gain an ally before Darth Sidious' machinations sweep him away? Is he a genuine idealist trying to create a sincere - if conspicuously libertarian - alternative to the failing Republic? There doesn't seem to be any other reason for him to try to recruit Obi-Wan. The images of the Geonosians' "ultimate weapon," aside from introducing the Death Star plans as an object (I will discuss this more when I reach Rogue One), reminds us that spheres are a strong recurring symbol. Fittingly for a movie about the origin of the Galactic Empire, there are tons of proto-Death Stars all over the place. Geonosis has its little Trade Federation starships, back from The Phantom Menace and now more spherical than ever. But Kamino is more interesting - in addition to the domes, the interior has the lifeless mechanical corridors, the huge columns of plasma (same ones as Naboo, interestingly enough - though in that case it seemed to mean that the Empire was always there underneath the Republic), and the converging lines motif. Though it's only in the next one that Coruscant itself becomes a Death Star. The ending from the arena scene echoes the Battle of Hoth, and a cloud of dust obscures all before Yoda says "The shroud of the Dark Side has fallen." The movie uses disguises, smoke, rain, debris, darkness, steam, dust, and more to render things invisible. The Jedi are aware that they can no longer see the future, the present, or the past. In the end, the war that will turn the Republic into the Empire has begun. All acknowledge it. The future Emperor receives good news. (Side note: the movie's twist is that Darth Sidious wanted all of this to happen. Dooku's motives were a mystery, and the mystery is revealed at the end. It's less of a mystery if you put too much stock into the idea of a unified Red Team, or if you previously noticed that Palpatine and Sidious have the same jowls. It's fun to pretend, though.) Ominous scenes of proto-stormtroopers assembling on Coruscant while proto-Star Destroyers take off, and then an even more ominous scene of Anakin marrying Padme. Attack of the Clones is the hinge of the tragedy. This is the movie in which the reasons why everyone chooses evil over good are laid bare. In this film's sequel, these decisions are reaffirmed and made irrevocable.
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Bongo Bill posted:For instance, it's seemingly a throwaway line during Anakin and Padme's departure for Naboo that the Chancellor authorized an investigation into the attacks on Padme's life. That means Palpatine is the one who set Obi-Wan on the trail that leads to Geonosis. It's not obvious that the whole trail of clues - the venomous insects released by the droid sent by Zam who was conspicuously killed by Jango Fett who lives on Kamino where Darth Tyranus ordered a clone army - was planted, specifically so that following them would lead to war. It's been a long time since I saw it, but the behind-the-scenes content for AOTC has George Lucas talking about how the last prequel is going to be a denouement for all this scheming and plotting, and reveal the 'mystery' of who Sifo Dyas is and who deleted material from the archive etc etc. Obviously at some point, writing Episode III, he decided that even if they're not spelled out, the clues are enough in AOTC that he could cut ROTS loose from that.
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I think I'm gonna watch all the commentary tracks in the lead-up to Episode IX. I do recall the Sifo-Dyas stuff got an arc in Clone Wars that filled in the details that would've gone into that mystery.
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Oct 23, 2017 03:24
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Still weird to me to have a Sifo-Dyas and a Sidious in the same film. Nice write up though, Bongo Bill!
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Oct 23, 2017 03:31
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I remember watching The Clone Wars and got to this episode where Obi-Wan goes "Count Dooku? YOU'RE Darth Tyrannus???" That was so bizarre to me, because I could have sworn they had already known about that.
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Oct 23, 2017 03:44
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Roth posted:I remember watching The Clone Wars and got to this episode where Obi-Wan goes "Count Dooku? YOU'RE Darth Tyrannus???" Pretty sure they don't know about the "Darth" in front of it, they're just hunting a mystery man by the name Tyranus through various clues and planets, until they run into him killing the final witness in the Pyke prison cells.
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Oct 23, 2017 05:10
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I hope there are some good new ships in this new movie. I want to get more stuff for my Star Wars: Armada game.
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Oct 23, 2017 07:27
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:I hope there are some good new ships in this new movie. I want to get more stuff for my Star Wars: Armada game. Oh, those ships. I thought you mean Finn x new Asian girl or Snoke x Hux or something.
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Oct 23, 2017 08:12
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That's gross considering Snoke is the first Ewok Jedi. He lost all his fur when he turned to the dark side. Force lightning accident. Also, why are these movies so long now. Rogue One is over two hours.
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Oct 23, 2017 08:14
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Snoke is the Porg Queen.
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Oct 23, 2017 09:09
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Also, why are these movies so long now. Rogue One is over two hours. They're all over two hours. Rogue One is about average length for a Star War.
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Oct 23, 2017 09:20
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Just re-watched Rogue One. It was definitely more enjoyable on re-watch than TFA even though I think TFA had the better crafted plot and writing. In terms of story and character R1 feel like you're stepping into the final act of someone's Star Wars RPG campaign. We're missing out on all the rat-whomp fights and vendor harassment that makes up the early character building part of the campaign and are instead seeing the over-dramatic climax. It leaves the film a bit flat but also leaves more threads for the viewer to pull then the incestuous Jedi affair of the main movies. I think what makes it more entertaining than TFA on re-watch is that it feels much more visually dense. There's stuff going on in every scene and a ton of shots lavish over mundane stuff like computer consoles, handles, equipment etc. The battles also feel much more crunchy, both in space and on the ground. The early terrorist ambush scene is chaotic and violent in a way the Jedi movies never become and the later WWII film homage scenes ruthlessly gun down friend and foe alike. The space battles also seem much more brutal with ships getting smashed up and crunched. Maybe Jedis exert special plot armour force fields when they're around. So on the whole I think R1 continues the Star Wars tradition of making the more flawed films of the series the more interesting ones to watch.
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The MSJ posted:Oh, those ships. I thought you mean Finn x new Asian girl or Snoke x Hux or something. Everyone x Porg. NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Just re-watched Rogue One. It was definitely more enjoyable on re-watch than TFA even though I think TFA had the better crafted plot and writing. Rogue One is great. It's a film about the 'normal people' of Star Wars. The rebel soldiers who got the plans and the narcissistic middle manager who wanted to stop them. Sucks that the score is terrible and that the reshoots really hurt the film, though.
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Oct 23, 2017 10:56
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Milky Moor posted:Everyone x Porg. You saw the original film before reshoots?!! How?! UmOk fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Oct 23, 2017 |
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Oct 23, 2017 13:55
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Just re-watched Rogue One. It was definitely more enjoyable on re-watch than TFA even though I think TFA had the better crafted plot and writing. The main reason I'm replying is to make the joke about how TFA's plot is better because it's ANH's plot. But I also thought about what you wrote and I agree. Rogue One is simply more original, even though we already know vaguely how it ends, and somehow shows us more things we have never seen. Rogue One is more from the height of Dutch painting. TFA is one of Monet's later water lily paintings where his vision was failing, but we value it anyway because we like Impressionism and hey, it's Monet.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:20
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I will give them credit for actually offing the characters at the end of R1 and not doing some kind of cop-out ending
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Oct 23, 2017 14:26
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yRP1ao1DUE&feature=youtu.be Forces of Destiny has gotten a "Volume 1" edit, bringing together the 12 shorts thus far with some linking scenes with Maz.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:59
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It looks like loving garbage. I can't believe that's official.
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Oct 23, 2017 18:12
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Kart Barfunkel posted:It looks like loving garbage. I can't believe that's official. They're micro series shorts, they probably literally spent more on getting the VAs in than on the animation itself.
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Oct 23, 2017 18:31
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It looks like bad fan art for the 2D Clone Wars show.
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Oct 23, 2017 19:19
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Hux and Snoke are the cutest couple https://twitter.com/Amyillu/status/920403323819380736    And the russian bootleg of TLJ leaked  https://twitter.com/JTLafon/status/922150877372321793  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Vinylshadow fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Oct 23, 2017 21:16
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Did I accidentally just open Tumblr?
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Oct 23, 2017 21:17
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feedmyleg posted:Did I accidentally just open Tumblr? there isn't even a single picture of gay sex on this page, of course you didn't
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Oct 23, 2017 21:24
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ungulateman posted:there isn't even a single picture of gay sex on this page, of course you didn't It's quite fun digging through all the Reylo, Huxlo, Snokelo, Snux and Porgs trying to find the good stuff At least Twitter's a little easier to filter through
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Oct 23, 2017 21:34
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That porg makes me think that the big eyes are just to lure you close; once you lean in they eat your face with their gigantic maw of razor-sharp teeth.
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Oct 23, 2017 22:42
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Hodgepodge posted:That porg makes me think that the big eyes are just to lure you close; once you lean in they eat your face with their gigantic maw of razor-sharp teeth. The big action setpiece of The Last Jedi is Luke cutting hundreds of porgs in half before they eventually swarm him and tear him limb from robotic limb.
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Oct 23, 2017 22:45
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Back story for the skull Luke threw to kill that rancorr in ROTJ.
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Oct 24, 2017 02:17
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It's very obvious that ditching the old EU as corporate canon had nothing to do with how stupid it was and the new stuff is going to be exactly as stupid
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Oct 24, 2017 02:30
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Judging from the comic panels I would say that is at least 20 years old.
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Oct 24, 2017 02:33
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UmOk posted:Judging from the comic panels I would say that is at least 20 years old. The article says the character is in some of the new "canon" poo poo
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Oct 24, 2017 02:38
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The first time Han hosed Leila he was wearing a condom that was actually hand made by one of Luke's friends who grew up to work in a condom factory that stocked the vending machines in dive bars around the galaxy.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:The first time Han hosed Leila he was wearing a condom that was actually hand made by one of Luke's friends who grew up to work in a condom factory that stocked the vending machines in dive bars around the galaxy. Finally one of these spinoff movies sounds interesting.
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DeimosRising posted:The article says the character is in some of the new "canon" poo poo The comic panels are old Legends stuff. It was a new Canon reference book that just assigned that name to the skull
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