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EdEddnEddy posted:In a way, yes. A reputable rom maker can make a custom rom that's up to date with all the security fixes up to that date. Pure Nexus was pretty good for this in that it was almost more secure than Google themselves because he released a bit after official google, worked out bugs that would be in the latest official release, then release his build that was almost always rock solid. Few other roms compare but some are at least trying. One I'm really not hopeful for : my Dell 7840 (8.4" premium-build x86 tablet, abandoned at Marshmallow 5.1) Others' that I know at least can be brought past 6.0 : the older, good Moto X phones
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CLAM DOWN posted:MKBHD's review, talks about the screen starting at 7:44
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Combat Pretzel posted:Doesn't address the claims of grainy display, though. Yes he does? (below video links to the time code where he mentions it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvNis_A6UaI&t=740s His review is a good thing to watch even if you don't care about his opinions as he shoots such high quality video you can get an idea what the screen actually looks like. His experience and thoughts on the phone mirror mine.
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Oct 24, 2017 15:28
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LastInLine posted:Both are not technically correct, I cannot be an object, me is an object and I is a subject. Even if you could get away with using I in a prepositional phrase in speech, it's certainly not acceptable anywhere with a half decent editor. You should do some research - this is a frequent subject of debate, and being British I did do some checking to ensure it wasn't different in American English. It is not. The general consensus seems to be when "than" is considered a preposition "me" is correct; when a conjunction, "I" is correct. But there is no consensus as to which is the right interpretation. Over here the older generation would definitely prefer "I" and I've often heard it used in speech, but I doubt anyone under 30 would use it. Anyway, enough dumb derail, I'll post no more about it. It was only a light-hearted comment about you being pedantic but also technically incorrect!
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Oct 24, 2017 15:33
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..btt posted:technically incorrect! The best kind of incorrect ..btt posted:and being British I did do some checking This should be me not I
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Oct 24, 2017 15:35
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LastInLine posted:me is an object Now you listen up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_-n2X4b-Yo
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DeathSandwich posted:Don't laugh at me, but I'm kind of hoping the Pixel 3 contract goes out to Essential. They've shown they can make a pretty decent hardware package and they've mostly been struggling with the software side of it, of which Google has down pat. If the company is around next year and they are able to unfuck their production lines to not be so backlogged/slow, I think they could make a pretty good run of it. Do you think essential has the resources to act as a contract manufacturer?
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Oct 24, 2017 15:59
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With the HTC acquisition, it's clear Google it's going to go one step further with the Pixel line and do even more of the design in house. I wouldn't be surprised if they tapped Foxconn for the Pixel 3 (most likely Pixel 4.) That really wouldn't have done anything about screengate though since these are still the only panels that Google would be able to use. Also, the importance of the latent image processing SoC in the current Pixel 2 cannot be overstated. It's Google's first step towards going full Apple and having their own custom SoC running the phone.
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Oct 24, 2017 16:21
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Mental Hospitality posted:What...what if the OnePlus 5t coming out next month ends up being a super awesome value flagship.
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Oct 24, 2017 16:22
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People more often talk badly about one plus the company than the phones themselves
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Oct 24, 2017 16:34
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However there are also valid complaints in that it openly sends personally identifiable information to their servers
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Oct 24, 2017 16:34
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bull3964 posted:That really wouldn't have done anything about screengate though since these are still the only panels that Google would be able to use. This sentence confuses me. Do you mean that if HTC made the next Pixel that their displays would have to be done in house as well?
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Oct 24, 2017 16:35
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Just the opposite, I think. LG/Samsung are still the only games in town for OLEDs. i.e. the screen problems would be there regardless of who assembled the device.
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Oct 24, 2017 16:36
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sirbeefalot posted:Just the opposite, I think. LG/Samsung are still the only games in town for OLEDs. i.e. the screen problems would be there regardless of who assembled the device. Yeah it's this
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Oct 24, 2017 16:37
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Yeah, LG and Samsung ate the only games in town for OLEDs and Samsung isn't selling their edgeless displays to anyone other than Apple. It's LG for the foreseeable future if you want an edgeless design or a several generation old normal OLED panel from Samsung with more traditional bezels.
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Oct 24, 2017 16:45
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Why don't they just use IPS LCD if there are supply constraints and quality issues for OLED?
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Oct 24, 2017 16:51
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IPS LCDs are for us poors with Moto G5 phones
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Syrinxx posted:Why don't they just use IPS LCD if there are supply constraints and quality issues for OLED? Because then their flagship device couldn't be used for daydream and they would have to remove ambient display.
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Syrinxx posted:Why don't they just use IPS LCD if there are supply constraints and quality issues for OLED? Couldn't do always on ambient display then and I think OLED is the best display as far as image quality and power efficiency go, when done right of course.
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Oct 24, 2017 16:53
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Syrinxx posted:Why don't they just use IPS LCD if there are supply constraints and quality issues for OLED? They finalized the components for this phone like 6 months+ ago. They make an educated bet that the issues on LGs OLED panel line will be ironed out in time for release. This is a very common thing to do.
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Oct 24, 2017 16:56
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Danyull posted:As someone who's left handed this would be completely unusable for me tbh. If your pixel isn't connected to anything bluetooth it will automatically connect to the car bluetooth as soon as the car turns on - if you've ever connected to it before and set it up. Likewise if you have a music app open it'll begin playing.
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Oct 24, 2017 17:09
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WattsvilleBlues posted:What's the U11 been like keeping up with security patches? I'd say pretty good. This one's October. Also the leaked looks of the U11+ with the fingerprint sensor on the back finally, looks fantastic. Only thing I don't like currently is the stock launcher with blinkfeed is just dated and bf is crappy as hell since they switched to News Republic. Install the Pixel launcher and it fixes that perfectly.
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Oct 24, 2017 17:22
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I really wish I would have snagged the official fabric case before my spigen thin fit shipped because I don't even know if I would want to use the later now. We'll have to see if it is any thinner.
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Zeta Taskforce posted:Can someone help me understand micro USB card compatibility? In case anyone was wondering, I got a 128 GB card and it works just fine  Thanks!
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Oct 24, 2017 18:16
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My pixel 2 xl was supposed to ship yesterday but my card hasn't been charged and my order status hasn't changed. I feel like I'd get the package faster if I canceled and reordered the phone but I don't want to risk it.
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Oct 24, 2017 19:18
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order another and just cancel the other when one ships
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Oct 24, 2017 19:21
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horchata posted:My pixel 2 xl was supposed to ship yesterday but my card hasn't been charged and my order status hasn't changed. I feel like I'd get the package faster if I canceled and reordered the phone but I don't want to risk it. Same here. I wonder if they are scrambling to deal with all the crap going on.
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Oct 24, 2017 19:22
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Mine is in transit, and I hope it's one of the mythical Good Screen XLs that google supposedly QA tested  If it's really that bad, there will probably be a recall, anyway.
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Oct 24, 2017 19:28
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Zeta Taskforce posted:In case anyone was wondering, I got a 128 GB card and it works just fine Glad to hear it worked out for you. My experience has always been that bigger cards won't get the entire volume recognized so good to know that's not always the case.
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Oct 24, 2017 19:30
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Knowing my luck it'll get shipped late and I'll still get a bad screen.
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horchata posted:My pixel 2 xl was supposed to ship yesterday but my card hasn't been charged and my order status hasn't changed. I feel like I'd get the package faster if I canceled and reordered the phone but I don't want to risk it.
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Oct 24, 2017 19:35
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CLAM DOWN posted:I'm really glad I cancelled my 2XL preorder, and I'm one of the original Pixel Warriors too I have a pokeball burnt in on the bottom of my S7. I've only had that phone for a few months.  My Pixel 2XL arrives tomorrow. How hosed am I?
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deadly_pudding posted:Mine is in transit, and I hope it's one of the mythical Good Screen XLs that google supposedly QA tested It's not that bad, it's just dull compared to a Samsung screen. There won't be a recall.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I have a pokeball burnt in on the bottom of my S7. I've only had that phone for a few months. youre fine, the melodrama over this phone is ridiculous
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Postoyevsky posted:youre fine, the melodrama over this phone is ridiculous I have yet to see a picture of burn in on a normal screen, not grey at the right brightness and angle. I'm not saying its not a problem and that it shouldn't be fixed, but come on. That said, I'll still be mad if mine does it, if it ever gets here. Apparently Best Buy got screwed on the XLs.
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Wacky Delly posted:I have yet to see a picture of burn in on a normal screen, not grey at the right brightness and angle. I'm not saying its not a problem and that it shouldn't be fixed, but come on. there's none on my screen Hilariously I checked my old OG Pixel for burn in and it has horrible burn in I literally never noticed it until yesterday when I purposefully looked. It's been my daily driver since release
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Oct 24, 2017 19:44
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Anyone get their trade in refund on an original Pixel yet? Did you get the full estimated amount?
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So, that's part of it. To be clear, I don't think what we are seeing in the 2XL is burn in, I think it's just IR. It has been shown to fade within a few minutes. The displays are under such scrutiny right now that this exploded. One of my co-workers tired the same thing with his not quite as worn normal Pixel and actually got the same behavior. If he was using the screen for awhile with the black nav bar and immediately switched to a gray swatch, he saw the same afterimage. After a few minutes it faded. Current Galaxy devices do not allow the nav area to be black under most circumstances, so you can't exhibit the same behavior. It's not necessarily because the screen is more resistant to it (though it may be), it's because you can't run it under conditions that cause the problem. Google really just needs to put the same background color behind the nav buttons as they do the notification area and this problem would disappear.
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That's still not a great display if the image retention is that bad, but that wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me whereas it would be if it was burnin. e: hmmm https://twitter.com/alexdobie/status/922901255676145664
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bull3964 posted:So, that's part of it. I use an app that does this, works pretty flawlessly and looks good Navbar Apps
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