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BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop

Nucleic Acids posted:

Has anything been put forward that the research is actually incorrect? I know people will attack it over the piss tape, but what about everything else in it?

Especially in comparison to the Republican funded dossier on Clinton.

I believe that there was information in the dossier about the travel destinations (that were meetings) for one of Trump's lawyers that turned out to be fabricated.

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Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I believe that there was information in the dossier about the travel destinations (that were meetings) for one of Trump's lawyers that turned out to be fabricated.

I was unaware of that.

It should be fun watching the Mueller investigation get poo poo-canned over this and the GOP starting yet another Clinton Investigation in Congress.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Lightning Knight posted:

Was that coined by the Right? I’ve always seen it used in the context of people trying to argue that this minority group actually suffers more ergo we have to help them first appeal to worse problems type deal.

Oh really? I've mainly heard it used by anti-SJWs and right-wingers who use it to criticize dems for wanting to help anyone that's being discriminated.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Admiral Bosch posted:

What's going on with this Uranium One poo poo that's in the news now? My dad sent me a National Review link which is loaded with conservative bias, but even more established news media is showing things that sound pretty bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI&t=615s

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Faustian Bargain posted:

Okay, so there aren't literal separate drinking fountains. Now post the ones where people were against interracial marriages vs people against gay marriage.

I would propose that we replace all water fountains with the rainbow one tho, those are pretty sweet

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Nucleic Acids posted:

I was unaware of that.

It should be fun watching the Mueller investigation get poo poo-canned over this and the GOP starting yet another Clinton Investigation in Congress.

Mueller’s investigation isn’t based on the dossier so he’s not going to get poo poo canned for it. Also, from the beginning everyone has treated the dossier with a degree of caution so it’s not like everyone was using it as a reference document. Finally, it’s been known right from the start where the dossier came from and who paid for it. Everyone already knows this.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Trump outside of Marine One right now giving an impromptu presser and giving his side talking points regarding Russia and the dossier.

Cru Jones
Mar 28, 2007

Cowering behind a shield of hope and Obamanium

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I believe that there was information in the dossier about the travel destinations (that were meetings) for one of Trump's lawyers that turned out to be fabricated.

Michael Cohen was supposedly in or near Prague sometime around August according to the dossier.

Cohen does not have any recorded travel right now to/from the Czech Republic but he did fly into and out of Italy in July. And once in Italy he could have traveled to Prague without additional passport stamps.

So the claim is basically unverified, with an interesting tidbit that puts him with the ability to be in Prague within a month or so of the dossier's claim.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/anthonycormier/trumps-lawyer-showed-you-the-cover-of-his-passport-heres?utm_term=.my6qOYM27#.egb8qmOYA

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Mr Interweb posted:

Oh really? I've mainly heard it used by anti-SJWs and right-wingers who use it to criticize dems for wanting to help anyone that's being discriminated.

You've encountered yet another example of bigots trying to appropriate language of social justice in order to muddy the waters.

A simple google would have helped you here.

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Oppression_Olympics

Agent Burt Macklin
Jul 3, 2003

Macklin, you son of a bitch

Your Taint posted:

Trump outside of Marine One right now giving an impromptu presser and giving his side talking points regarding Russia and the dossier.

Was just about to post about this as well...all over the place, rambling about how the Democrats were the only ones colluding with Russia, and that he was nice to LaDavid's widow and he has no idea what everyone is going on about.

:what:

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Kelly posted:

Was just about to post about this as well...all over the place, rambling about how the Democrats were the only ones colluding with Russia, and that he was nice to LaDavid's widow and he has no idea what everyone is going on about.

:what:

"There is great unity in the Republican party", once again the whole Russia thing is "an excuse for losing an election", and he said he had an idea of which republican paid for the dossier but won't say.

Also "the press makes me more uncivil than I actually am." Yes. A thing he actually literally said.

Phoix
Jul 20, 2006




Nucleic Acids posted:

Has anything been put forward that the research is actually incorrect? I know people will attack it over the piss tape, but what about everything else in it?

Especially in comparison to the Republican funded dossier on Clinton.

Worth noting with all the dossier talk that we haven't seen the full dossier.



quote:

Feinstein: Before you go on, do you have the whole dossier?

Benczkowski: I read the dossier online as it was published on BuzzFeed [raises two fingers]

Feinstein: The whole dossier is not online.

Benczkowski: The only thing that I have done, Senator, in that regard, was read the two pages as to Alfa Bank.

Feinstein: You have not seen the whole dossier?

Benczkowski: I have not.

edit: wrong link originally whoops

Kale
May 14, 2010

RasperFat posted:

:wow:

How does anyone see him as a strong man? He’s such a sensitive little snowflake and throws tantrums like a toddler.

I've honestly never seen a more whiny self-pitying impotent world leader. It's almost like I'm looking at a case of depression or something. In any case it's extremely unhealthy and not at all what you want at the helm in and of itself.

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

Your Boy Fancy posted:

Meanwhile, In Virginia

Just wanted to pop in and give public thanks to the guys who came out on Saturday to walk turf. I think Solaris actually ended up walking with the president of the labor federation, which is awesome. Political goons are awesome.

Also, thanks to the handful of goons who reached out for phone banks as well! I think we officially have every time zone represented except Mountain Time. UTAH, YOU ARE ON NOTICE. OTHER STATES, MAKE UTAH LOOK BAD BY BEING FIRST. Seriously though, every call, even little voicemails by people who are clearly uncomfortable on the phone, make all the difference. Humans are good. Robocalls are for sissies. Be a human.

Current polling is looking good, but not so good that we can let up. GOTV season is here. Whenever you read a dumb tweet or a bad policy coming down the pike, and you think there's nothing you can do, there's always Virginia. We seriously vote on statewide poo poo every year. And it's cheaper than whiskey as a calming agent. Trust me. I've run the numbers.

PM me if you haven't yet, because we are thirteen (13) days from polls opening, and the end is nigh. When the returns come in and the first big, competitive result since the end of the world says "Republicans Face Setback In VA," you can say you did your part. And if the GOP take back Richmond, and you sat here posting "nothing matters" all day instead of helping, you'll be seen as the sentient river of poo poo that you are.

poo poo River.

:shitriver:

A LOT of pages back but this is the type of poo poo that wins elections. GOTV and the ground game matter TREMENDOUSLY.

If you do nothing else, help this way where you can really make a difference.

Martian
May 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer

boner confessor posted:

remember that most americans hate trump and he lost the popular vote by over three million votes, he won mostly because of squeaking out an extremely narrow victory in our odd vote allocation system and because of a literal decades long smear campaign against his opponent.
I see posts like this, and I know you are right in the sense that >50% of Americans dislike Trump, but then I can't help but think that this should mean that the Republicans should get crushed by huge margins in every election post-2016. That hasn't happened in the special elections so far. I guess Virginia is the next big test.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
SEE? SEE? IT WAS ACTUALLY THE OTHER SIDE!! SEE? SEE??

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Martian posted:

I see posts like this, and I know you are right in the sense that >50% of Americans dislike Trump, but then I can't help but think that this should mean that the Republicans should get crushed by huge margins in every election post-2016. That hasn't happened in the special elections so far. I guess Virginia is the next big test.

Disliking Trump doesn't preclude utterly loathing Democrats.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

BarbarianElephant posted:

Disliking Trump doesn't preclude utterly loathing Democrats.

:vince:

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Martian posted:

I see posts like this, and I know you are right in the sense that >50% of Americans dislike Trump, but then I can't help but think that this should mean that the Republicans should get crushed by huge margins in every election post-2016. That hasn't happened in the special elections so far. I guess Virginia is the next big test.

national elections are across the states. this means that very populous, very blue states like new york and california can rack up the dem votes without having any impact on increasingly red and empty flyover and southern states

you can't meaningfully compare national results and expect state and local level results to match that

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Martian posted:

I see posts like this, and I know you are right in the sense that >50% of Americans dislike Trump, but then I can't help but think that this should mean that the Republicans should get crushed by huge margins in every election post-2016. That hasn't happened in the special elections so far. I guess Virginia is the next big test.

Polls are bullshit. People lie and even if they do dislike Trump and/or Republicans, it doesn't mean they will show up to vote or vote for the opposition.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

Martian posted:

I see posts like this, and I know you are right in the sense that >50% of Americans dislike Trump, but then I can't help but think that this should mean that the Republicans should get crushed by huge margins in every election post-2016.

That doesn't follow. Approval numbers aren't asking "would you vote for x against any member of the opposing party", and that's the important question for elections. There are lots of people who don't like Trump (or at least will tell pollsters they don't approve of his performance), but will always and forever vote straight ticket R regardless of who the actual candidates are.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/923237809187622912

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/923238575952588805

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

boner confessor posted:

remember that most americans hate trump and he lost the popular vote by over three million votes, he won mostly because of squeaking out an extremely narrow victory in our odd vote allocation system and because of a literal decades long smear campaign against his opponent. i remember the first time i ever heard the n-word, a trashy classmate of mine was telling racist jokes on the playground in elementary school and i remember him telling jokes about hillary clinton as well. this was in the early nineties before she was even first lady. so this kid's trailer trash dad was being instructed to hate hillary by right wing radio while she was still just the governor's wife
I know that Trump's "Victory" relied on squinting really hard and a buncha other factors. It's just... g'ah. It's too much. Plus, down here in México we ain't no dancers (our President is only slightly less of a corrupt, vile moron than Trump).

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Huzanko posted:

Polls are bullshit. People lie and even if they do dislike Trump and/or Republicans, it doesn't mean they will show up to vote or vote for the opposition.

This is a stupid post. Some polls are garbage, but if you look at them in aggregate and ignore pollsters with bad reputation, they are highly predictive of the final margin. Some people idiotically decided polls were worthless after the 2016 election, but they are wrong.

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Uuuuuuuuugh

Kale
May 14, 2010

Riptor posted:

My name is Buck Sexton

Nice porn name. :golfclap:

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
The buck stops somewhere else.
lol

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Yo yo yo widow I'm gonna let you finish, but....

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

Yuzenn posted:

A LOT of pages back but this is the type of poo poo that wins elections. GOTV and the ground game matter TREMENDOUSLY.

As evidenced by Trump and his world-class ground game compared to Clinton and her pitiful GOTV efforts.


e: I'm joking, but I hate the constant repetition of election voodoo that people insist is true for no other reason than it sounds like it makes sense.

Baronash fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Oct 25, 2017

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

What does that mean. That the generals authorized the mission without his approval?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Mr Interweb posted:

Oh really? I've mainly heard it used by anti-SJWs and right-wingers who use it to criticize dems for wanting to help anyone that's being discriminated.

I believe you, but I sincerely didn't mean it in that way. My bad for causing confusion. :yayclod:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Huzanko posted:

Polls are bullshit. People lie and even if they do dislike Trump and/or Republicans, it doesn't mean they will show up to vote or vote for the opposition.

The polls were right.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Vladimir Putin posted:

What does that mean. That the generals authorized the mission without his approval?

Him authorizing it would be a mistake and make him feel bad so clearly he didn't do it. You did it. Shut up.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Not the greatest?

gregday
May 23, 2003

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Not the greatest?

Well he's also more humble than you could even possibly imagine.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Baronash posted:

As evidenced by Trump and his world-class ground game compared to Clinton and her pitiful GOTV efforts.

Clintons GOTV was extremely poorly organized and managed and it can be safely said that if just a few of the hundred wrong things were done a bit better that she probably would have won. Such as not putting all your effort and money into Arizona instead of Michigan.

But keep being a wise rear end.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Trump is now throwing the generals under the bus. Wow!

Countdown until military coup: 5...4...3...

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Didn't we learn in January or February that he had handed over all military responsibility to the generals because he doesn't give a gently caress?

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
https://twitter.com/acosta/status/923236987443793920

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Kale posted:

I've honestly never seen a more whiny self-pitying impotent world leader. It's almost like I'm looking at a case of depression or something. In any case it's extremely unhealthy and not at all what you want at the helm in and of itself.

Turn on your monitor, President of the United States Donald J. Trump.

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