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DLC Inc posted:Man I'm at a point in Route C where I realize I'm underleveled by just a little but getting like 2-shotted by loving everything. It sucks because combat being that much more of a slog at 15 hours in s loving awful and it's weird how I'm being punished for not doing more sidequest stuff. Is there an easy way to grind back up or should I just put the difficulty down until the levels are more equal? Just put the difficulty down and leave it there. You don't miss out on anything at all for playing on Easy and by this point you should just focus on finishing the game.
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The Sandman posted:The trick with the village will be never going there as 9S before finishing A2's side of the route. Would that even be possible? I feel like some critical quests happen there.
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Oct 24, 2017 20:43
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Archenteron posted:If you're into experimental noise electronica, apparently Drakengard 1's ost is mind boggling. Cutting up and looping classical pieces to punish the player further (it's even called the Harddisk Symphony Orchestra in the credits, loving lol) is one thing, but the fact that they actually recorded the source material specifically for the game instead of using public domain recordings is straight up baffling. Composers would kill to have their material performed live and here they went spending boatloads of money just to make annoying samples 
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Oct 24, 2017 21:22
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DLC Inc posted:Man I'm at a point in Route C where I realize I'm underleveled by just a little but getting like 2-shotted by loving everything. It sucks because combat being that much more of a slog at 15 hours in s loving awful and it's weird how I'm being punished for not doing more sidequest stuff. Is there an easy way to grind back up or should I just put the difficulty down until the levels are more equal?
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Oct 24, 2017 21:28
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DLC Inc posted:Man I'm at a point in Route C where I realize I'm underleveled by just a little but getting like 2-shotted by loving everything. It sucks because combat being that much more of a slog at 15 hours in s loving awful and it's weird how I'm being punished for not doing more sidequest stuff. Is there an easy way to grind back up or should I just put the difficulty down until the levels are more equal? I was in the same position. I wound up learning to abuse the poo poo out of dodging and slotted chips to get like 40% health back on a kill.
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Oct 24, 2017 23:40
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Drakengard's bizarre discordant soundtrack is one of the best things about the the game and matches its tone completely.
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Oct 25, 2017 00:38
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I love how people have just started spilling spoilers into the LP thread. “Now this isn’t really a spoiler, but *SEVERAL MAJOR SPOILERS*” What is wrong with these people?
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Oct 25, 2017 01:56
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...! posted:I love how people have just started spilling spoilers into the LP thread. I posted the speculative conclusion that I came to after that sequence back when I first played the game, I hope I didn't misstep in doing that.
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Oct 25, 2017 01:59
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Tarezax posted:I posted the speculative conclusion that I came to after that sequence back when I first played the game, I hope I didn't misstep in doing that. In this thread, nothing wrong with that. In the LP thread where Id specifically says not to spoil poo poo, and posting "speculation" with lots of wink wink nudge nudge because the poster obviously knows what's going to happen, yeah no gently caress off. It's not cute and nobody wants it.
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Oct 25, 2017 02:03
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Haha, they’re still doing it. “I hope such and such happens.” “Weeeeeeell... here’s how it happens.” That thread's gonna get locked so hard.
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Oct 25, 2017 03:05
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To change the discussion away from whatever bullshit that is, "Weight of the World" came up on my playlist and it's amazing how I still get tingles from the song. And it's kinda crazy how it's pretty much impossible to explain to someone that hasn't played the game why. also the English version is so way better than the Japanese one drat Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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Oct 25, 2017 05:37
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Weight of the World doesn't always have that effect on me, but vague hope (cold rain) definitely does. Even without having gone through nier1 yet Kaine's theme has that effect too after doing the gathering keepsakes quest.
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Oct 25, 2017 06:04
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Zerilan posted:Weight of the World doesn't always have that effect on me, but vague hope (cold rain) definitely does. Even without having gone through nier1 yet Kaine's theme has that effect too after doing the gathering keepsakes quest. I burnt myself out listening to "Weight of the World" when Automata first came out, but the pre-chorus line "Is this the price I'm paying for my past mistakes?" hurts fresh every time. Every character in the game is trapped in a cycle of self-inflicted punishment, and the ending represents the opportunity to finally move forward.
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Oct 25, 2017 06:51
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lol the only way to escape the cycle of the world and reach nirvana is of course the annihilation of the self, to unplug your id your, personality chip if you will
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Explosions posted:My one bit of happiness from this update was that at least now we wouldn't have to suffer through a late game revelation that 2B has been in love with 9S all along, and now the spoiler dipshits are all smirk smirk we'll find out her motivations later smirk smirk and I want to put a brick through my screen. I was laughing so hard at this post. Really hope they follow up on it when the LP proves them wrong.
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Oct 25, 2017 13:39
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Deceitful Penguin posted:lol the only way to escape the cycle of the world and reach nirvana is of course the annihilation of the self, to unplug your id OS chip, got it.
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Oct 25, 2017 16:47
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I just never thought of the direct buddhist poo poo, like how the game is basically us going through the realm of fighting demons, unable to escape it due to our karmic burdens forcing us to be reborn there constantly we literally ascend and leave that plain as 9S if we pick the rocket
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Oct 25, 2017 18:00
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But none of that stuff is really important because what really matters is 9S getting to be with the world's best butt. Karmic cycles etc etc seem so insignificant compared to that
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Oct 25, 2017 18:13
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Ending D is the best ending and I stand by that opinion. The way I see it Ending D is the good ending, in that it causes the most benefit for the largest amount of characters. Meanwhile Ending E is the happy ending as defined by Taro, in that whether good or bad the main character got what they wanted.
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Oct 25, 2017 18:26
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https://soundcloud.com/toadsanime/toad-on-games-10-near-the-tomato-ft-kira-buckland0 Hour-long podcast that's essentially an extended interview of 2B's voice actress Kira Buckland. Includes topics like working on the game, fan reactions, starting out as a VA, ect. Enjoyed it a lot so I figured I would post it here.
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Oct 25, 2017 20:13
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I have listened to Wretched Weaponry (Medium-Dynamic) probably 1-2+ times every single day since March
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Oct 25, 2017 20:29
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Nina posted:Ending D is the best ending and I stand by that opinion. You know ending E can come after ending D, right? And considering a lot of the people receiving the benefit in ending D are jackasses even by Drakengard standards (as opposed to Jackass, who is the fun kind of horrible person), I can't say their happiness is that much of a factor in my decision-making.
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Oct 25, 2017 20:39
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Nina posted:Ending D is the best ending and I stand by that opinion. As has been said, this ending means that the worst parts of the machine network get to have a happy ending and after everything they have done, I stand firmly with my decision to gently caress them over.
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Oct 25, 2017 20:42
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"My perceived enemies don't deserve a chance of happiness" is a very Taro protagonist way to think!
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Oct 25, 2017 20:44
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e) whoops thought this was the LP thread
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Oct 25, 2017 21:00
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Nina posted:"My perceived enemies don't deserve a chance of happiness" is a very Taro protagonist way to think! I didn't even say that. I said prioritizing their happiness over that of people who don't want to psychologically torture and murder innocent people is pretty loving stupid.
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Oct 25, 2017 21:05
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This game has the best sound design of the generation, of which music is a significant but not all encompassing part. The way it layers music tracks, 8bit and or simply strips out tracks is insane, and the voice acting, at least in Japanese, is just about beyond compare. I can't speak for the English. If you're making a gaming award and NieR: Automata isn't nominated for sound, your awards are.... poo poo
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Oct 25, 2017 21:13
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The English voice acting is pretty good. Kyle McCartney does an amazing job as 9S through route C.
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Oct 25, 2017 21:20
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Oct 25, 2017 21:27
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The English voice acting in Automata is A+ and it slightly bums me out when some people default to the Japanese version.
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Oct 25, 2017 21:32
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KamikazePotato posted:The English voice acting in Automata is A+ and it slightly bums me out when some people default to the Japanese version.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:This game has the best sound design of the generation, of which music is a significant but not all encompassing part. The way it layers music tracks, 8bit and or simply strips out tracks is insane, and the voice acting, at least in Japanese, is just about beyond compare. I can't speak for the English.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Same, as I said earlier, the difference is really apparent for instance in weight of the world in how much better the English version is I would agree if I get to be nitpicky and annoying and say that I agree that Weight of the World English is better with how the lyrics sound in conjunction to the instruments but the lyrics themselves are, uh, on the nose to put it generously. Of course I haven't investigated what the translated Japanese lyrics are either so they could be equally as subtle.
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Oct 25, 2017 21:50
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I played through it with both JAP/USA VA versions and I prefer Japanese voice. I know this is an  unpopular opinion but I really haven't heard an english VA that does an ...ahem..anime themed project without it sounding a bit on the corny side to me. But maybe that's because I think anime stuff is corny in general and having a foreign accent hides some of the cheese for me. (I still love, play and watch the stuff, so hey)Again, my humble, unpopular opinion. I have tremendous respect for the American VAs and the amazing job they did for Nier. It's just not my thing. edit: PS I loved this goddamned game.
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Oct 25, 2017 22:48
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VA for Adam/Eve/9S/Pascal is good but 2B and A2 are boring to a point where the script undermines the voicework. I'm torn between this and Persona 5 for what's my favorite soundtrack this year, though they're wildly different.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The way it layers music tracks, 8bit and or simply strips out tracks is insane
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Oct 25, 2017 23:47
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Professor of Cats posted:I played through it with both JAP/USA VA versions and I prefer Japanese voice. I know this is an I agree. English dubs rarely match the tone of the original language 100%. Automata's English cast is fantastic, but they miss the mark a few times throughout the story. Cowboy Bebop seems to be the go-to example of a perfect English dub, but English VAs never sound as good as Norio Wakamoto's villain voice.
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Know Such Peace posted:I agree. English dubs rarely match the tone of the original language 100%. Automata's English cast is fantastic, but they miss the mark a few times throughout the story. Miss the mark, or play it different? They aren't the same thing, after all.
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Oct 26, 2017 00:21
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I don't think anyone could top Norio Wakamoto at voicing anything though. I'd be fine with him voicing 2B so long as I got to hear more of that cat's voice.
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Anime Japanese is pretty much to regular Japanese as dub English is to regular English. I'm so used to anime Japanese that even after learning to enunciate close to proper Japanese I still process them both at pretty much the same level, separately. Maybe you can do the same to anime dub English.
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