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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Pants Donkey posted:

It would be half-assed and have thinly-veiled, passived-aggressive attacks on his editors for making him stoop to such a level :allears:

I think it'd be farmed out to the cheapest possible Asian animation studio -- not one of those ritzy Korean or Taiwanese studios, but somewhere in Laos or Burma.



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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Yeah...Trump can hint or say he's gonna do a lot of awful things but that's still a far cry from actually starting a bullshit war that kills millions and breaks a country for maybe ever.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Holy poo poo, do you know what the original date on this was? It looks like it was made around the 1880s, but I'm not 100% sure.

Deadheadism: Riding for free on public transportation.
Kearneyism: Presumably a reference to Denis Kearney, A socialist labor organizer in late 19th century San Francisco who really loving hated Chinese immigrants, the news media, Chinese immigrants, Capitalists, Chinese immigrants, Politicians and Chinese immigrants. I mean he really loving hated Chinese people, and would end every single speech no matter what with "oh yeah and we should kick out all the Chinese people."

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Jurgan posted:

I heard someone say that the real reason Trump won't talk about the attack in Niger is because his speechwriters are worried he'll mispronounce the country's name.

"no, he's not the president anymore"

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Pants Donkey posted:

It would be half-assed and have thinly-veiled, passived-aggressive attacks on his editors for making him stoop to such a level :allears:

Worked for the Rankin Bass Rudolph movie.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

OldMemes posted:

I think as the cartoons in this thread show, you can lay out all the fact about Clinton - what she's achieved, her high points, her blunders, what she's done well, where she's screwed up, her character, her temperment, whatever.

And people will still prefer the version of Hillary they cooked up in their head. Most of the time it's not "more right than Obama less charamastic, but still did a fair bit for social issues and seems like a good politican" but IS A SUPER CRIMINAL WHO HAS COMMITTED ALL THE CRIMES EVER AND COVERED THEM UP AND PLOTS TO BLOCK OUT THE SUN PROBABLY.

She's not the most exciting canidate ever, but she was a solid Democrat canidate. I'm probably not gonna read "What Happened", at least not in the short term, but I have read some articles on it, and it seems she got blindsided, had too much personal baggage, and couldn't adapt to a hostile enviroment fast enough.

(Plus Russia).

Clinton made mistakes and also had a lot of unfair things happen to her that she couldn't control. It is possible to believe both of those things simultaneously. But that take's not hot enough to catch on, partly because it's exactly what she's said since the election ended.

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah...Trump can hint or say he's gonna do a lot of awful things but that's still a far cry from actually starting a bullshit war that kills millions and breaks a country for maybe ever.

Give him time...

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Instant Sunrise posted:

Kearneyism: Presumably a reference to Denis Kearney, A socialist labor organizer in late 19th century San Francisco who really loving hated Chinese immigrants, the news media, Chinese immigrants, Capitalists, Chinese immigrants, Politicians and Chinese immigrants. I mean he really loving hated Chinese people, and would end every single speech no matter what with "oh yeah and we should kick out all the Chinese people."

Lol like Cato the elder except more of an rear end in a top hat, somehow.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Instant Sunrise posted:

Holy poo poo, do you know what the original date on this was? It looks like it was made around the 1880s, but I'm not 100% sure.

Deadheadism: Riding for free on public transportation.
Kearneyism: Presumably a reference to Denis Kearney, A socialist labor organizer in late 19th century San Francisco who really loving hated Chinese immigrants, the news media, Chinese immigrants, Capitalists, Chinese immigrants, Politicians and Chinese immigrants. I mean he really loving hated Chinese people, and would end every single speech no matter what with "oh yeah and we should kick out all the Chinese people."

Yeah, I'd recognize that art style anywhere. It's Thomas Nast.

Cover of Harper Weekly from 10 April 1880. It's satirizing the exxxxxxxxxtremely short-lived Workingman's Party of California.



E: Just to be clear, Nast shouldn't be seen as an exemplar of progress. He delighted in attacking immigrants, particularly the Chinese and Irish. Kearney, who helped spur a rewriting of the California constitution to make the state aggressively anti-immigrant and more socialist, was just an easy target.

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 26, 2017

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I'd totally join the skeleton communist party.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Fister Roboto posted:

I'd totally join the skeleton communist party.

chances are that you are going to be working with a lot of prohibitionists, people who are virulent anti-immigrant, and the occasional pro-confederate farmer

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



QuoProQuid posted:


E: Just to be clear, Nast shouldn't be seen as an exemplar of progress. He delighted in attacking immigrants, particularly the Chinese and Irish.
Nast genuinely hated the Irish, but that's no at all how I understand his attitude towards the Chinese:

https://imgur.com/gallery/4MBZJ

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
I presume the caption at the bottom “‘Constant Vigilance’ (committee)” is a reference to the San Francisco Vigilance Committees from the 1850s.

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?

OldMemes posted:

I think as the cartoons in this thread show, you can lay out all the fact about Clinton - what she's achieved, her high points, her blunders, what she's done well, where she's screwed up, her character, her temperment, whatever.

And people will still prefer the version of Hillary they cooked up in their head. Most of the time it's not "more right than Obama less charamastic, but still did a fair bit for social issues and seems like a good politican" but IS A SUPER CRIMINAL WHO HAS COMMITTED ALL THE CRIMES EVER AND COVERED THEM UP AND PLOTS TO BLOCK OUT THE SUN PROBABLY.

She's not the most exciting canidate ever, but she was a solid Democrat canidate. I'm probably not gonna read "What Happened", at least not in the short term, but I have read some articles on it, and it seems she got blindsided, had too much personal baggage, and couldn't adapt to a hostile enviroment fast enough.

(Plus Russia).
Decades of Republican character assassination (to the point where their propaganda is just accepted as fact and even people who hate the Republicans themselves still believe it) are a hell of a drug.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Fulchrum posted:

Worked for the Rankin Bass Rudolph movie.

They made the best Hobbit/ROTK movies.

Also the best non-Christian Christmas movie that let people raised pan-Germanic atheist like me enjoy the holiday. All Elves and toys and great heroes.

ACRE & EQUAT
Aug 28, 2004

FUNERAL BREADS
WAR BREAD
holy poo poo yeah

What's great is that you can reuse that sash for any number of compound halloween costumes in the future!

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Xander77 posted:

Nast genuinely hated the Irish, but that's no at all how I understand his attitude towards the Chinese:

https://imgur.com/gallery/4MBZJ

You're right. I was misremembering.

Thanks!

Instant Sunrise posted:

I presume the caption at the bottom “‘Constant Vigilance’ (committee)” is a reference to the San Francisco Vigilance Committees from the 1850s.

Seems extremely likely, but I'd be lying if I said I knew without doing a lot of Googling.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Shbobdb posted:

They made the best Hobbit/ROTK movies.

Also the best non-Christian Christmas movie that let people raised pan-Germanic atheist like me enjoy the holiday. All Elves and toys and great heroes.

It can't be the best Christmas movie without Alan Rickman.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Shbobdb posted:

They made the best Hobbit/ROTK movies.

Also the best non-Christian Christmas movie that let people raised pan-Germanic atheist like me enjoy the holiday. All Elves and toys and great heroes.
Is that the one where Santa is like, raised by lions and later elves and they have a war with monsters that feed on human suffering? I think it had both a stop-motion AND hand-drawn version.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

First Dog on the Moon:

Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*


Shbobdb posted:

They made the best Hobbit/ROTK movies.

Also the best non-Christian Christmas movie that let people raised pan-Germanic atheist like me enjoy the holiday. All Elves and toys and great heroes.

I'll fully agree on ROTK, but having rewatched their Hobbit it is PAINFULLY abridged. Animation is still gorgeous though. I actually recently learned that the studio they used was the precursor to Studio Ghibli.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Pants Donkey posted:

Is that the one where Santa is like, raised by lions and later elves and they have a war with monsters that feed on human suffering? I think it had both a stop-motion AND hand-drawn version.

It's based on a L Frank Baum book and L Frank Baum is the king of German diasporic nationalism.

The stop motion one is the real and good one.

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Weirdo
Jul 22, 2004

I stay up late :coffee:

Grimey Drawer

Renaissance Spam posted:

I'll fully agree on ROTK, but having rewatched their Hobbit it is PAINFULLY abridged. Animation is still gorgeous though. I actually recently learned that the studio they used was the precursor to Studio Ghibli.

Oh neat!

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Renaissance Spam posted:

I'll fully agree on ROTK, but having rewatched their Hobbit it is PAINFULLY abridged. Animation is still gorgeous though. I actually recently learned that the studio they used was the precursor to Studio Ghibli.

I'll take abridged-but-good as opposed to needlessly bloated.

A happy middle is in there somewhere. But making a short children's movie out a short children's book feels right.

The Russian Hobbit is also super good.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Shbobdb posted:

They made the best Hobbit/ROTK movies.

Also the best non-Christian Christmas movie that let people raised pan-Germanic atheist like me enjoy the holiday. All Elves and toys and great heroes.

Really. The "where there's a whip, there's a way" one.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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Chip Bok posted:

Last week most of the media focused on an Empty Barrel in a sequined cowboy criticizing President Trump’s call to comfort a war widow. But Reason.com wanted to know why we have troops in Niger. Good question.

It turns out the U.S.military is stretched all over the place trying to fill vacuums before Islamic extremists do the same. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford says there are about 800 American troops in Niger and 6,000 overall in in Africa.

Sen. Lindsey Graham said on Meet the Press,”I didn’t know there were 1,000 troops in Niger”

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Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


I am so happy about that tie in the tiny cookie jar.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Wow you are still mad about that. I can't even remember how many years ago that was.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
gently caress you duck.

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Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Instant Sunrise posted:

Kearneyism: Presumably a reference to Denis Kearney, A socialist labor organizer in late 19th century San Francisco who really loving hated Chinese immigrants, the news media, Chinese immigrants, Capitalists, Chinese immigrants, Politicians and Chinese immigrants. I mean he really loving hated Chinese people, and would end every single speech no matter what with "oh yeah and we should kick out all the Chinese people."

"Sinae delenda est"?

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





Never would have pegged Bok as the first cartoonist to call out America's unchecked imperialism and the vast independent monster that is our basically free-from-oversight military that operates as its own separate branch of the government.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

gently caress yeah I'm in love with communist skeleton :skeltal:

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Did anything even close to this happen?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

Did anything even close to this happen?

Seems that it did.

Also some bad opinions from him on the NFL protests.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

quote:

“I think they ought to find a different way to object, to demonstrate. I would rather see all the players stand during the American anthem.”

Someone shoot Carter in the back during a traffic stop.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Xander77 posted:

Nast genuinely hated the Irish, but that's no at all how I understand his attitude towards the Chinese:

https://imgur.com/gallery/4MBZJ

This one is like an 18th century Garrison. That shading! That lettering! That racism!



I'm also super into the crocodile papists:

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
I mean, aren't you?

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

Red Bones posted:

This one is like an 18th century Garrison. That shading! That lettering! That racism!



Riff Raff immigration would sweep away the dangers to American institutions and Ideals, which resides inside the country, but Uncle Sam, the personification of the US ruling class, is protecting them against this cleansing influence. AGC

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah...Trump can hint or say he's gonna do a lot of awful things but that's still a far cry from actually starting a bullshit war that kills millions and breaks a country for maybe ever.

Trump's already started a couple of wars and killed some people, give him time to catch up.

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